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Default Nov 08, 2005 at 09:59 PM
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How can I help my daughter do homework in a subject that I never even learned myself?

I can't admit to my ex that we failed. I can't.

I'm so stupid, an idiot, I can't even find the help we need online.

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Default Nov 08, 2005 at 10:02 PM
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Hey be real, I couldn't keep up with my kids in math after 7th grade. Find a tutor if you need to. It doesn't mean your a failure. My baby had to be tutored all the way through calculus, and not by her parents! Loosen up, when will I need calculus again? Be kind to you and get her a tutor.
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Default Nov 08, 2005 at 10:05 PM
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It's algebra. How can I not know algebra? I can't even understand the examples in the book. I might as well be reading a foreign language.

She's already failed all of her first quarter classes and she's on track to fail the entire first semester.

She needs help now, TONIGHT, immediately. This can't wait.

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Default Nov 08, 2005 at 10:07 PM
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OMG - SHIRLEY!

You are NOT really beating yourself up about this, are you? Come ON. That's not reasonable. Algebra is not easy. If it were, they'd teach it to kids in 2nd grade.

Most people struggle with it. And this is not a personal failure on your part. Stop that negative self-talk.

Do I need to fly up there and give you huggles?

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Default Nov 08, 2005 at 10:18 PM
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Don't feel bad.....my parents couldn't help me much past grade school. There is nothing wrong with that.....we don't hold it against our parents. I was always able to find a solution for myself. I stunk at chemistry & my neighbor did well in is....so.....thus the tutor....at least I got by. I was mostly able to not need help......just dug into the subjects deeply & found the answers myself. It was a struggle at times. I also struggled through my 2nd year of algebra...my best friend just breezed through it & her parents couldn't help her either....so she helped me in that subject too.

Just because you can't help your daughter do homework.....there are many other things that are important in life that you are probably more than qualified to coach her through.

My parents struggled just to get through high school.....I graduated from a community college with a music degree (AA)....& I graduated from the university with my BS in computer science & accounting information systems. I had the ability to far exceed my parents in the education world....but looking back at my parents.....I see the problems were in areas other than school that they couldn't help me with. Those were things that were far more important in getting along in the world than my education.

The other thing I also found out from even being a parent myself (I have a 27 year old daughter).....they usually learn more about what they don't want to do from us rather than learning the things we may be able to help with. To be honest....my whole life was based on learning from my parents what I didn't want to be like. I am sure my daughter learned the same from us.

Don't beat up on yourself because of homework issues.....be the best parent(s) you can....it will mean more in the long run than homework.

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Default Nov 08, 2005 at 10:27 PM
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If not algebra specifically, you can teach A. to persevere and to maintain her composure in the face of difficult challenges.

You can do it, SS. I know you can.

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Default Nov 08, 2005 at 10:39 PM
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wi fighter,

Don't feel bad. I have a 14 year old in high school and I couldn't do her geometry homework if my life depended on it.

Try this. web page

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Default Nov 08, 2005 at 10:44 PM
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It would be great, but it's $49 to join the site so I can get help for the exact book she's using. Too stupid to be a parent

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Default Nov 08, 2005 at 10:52 PM
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Don't anyone bother giving any more Algebra help. Don't waste your time. I still don't get it. I can't comprehend it at all. You might as well be talking to a monkey.

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Default Nov 08, 2005 at 10:56 PM
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What do you think your options are, Wi_fi?

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Default Nov 08, 2005 at 11:26 PM
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Hey g/f............if all parents were judged on their ability to help their kids with homework - in every subject - I expect many of us would FAIL ! "Back in my day" many many of my classmates NEVER took Algebra at all ! So - how could they possibly help their kids with it? YOU ARE NOT A FAILURE AS A PARENT !!!!

As for letting "you know who know".........FORGET IT. If she is failing as badly as you say - exactly when did he show his brilliance and help her with her Algebra?

Try and find a high school math wiz - and have her tutored. My son had a tutor for Algebra........even tho I took 3 years of it........never used it, didnt retain it !

Quit beating yourself up please...........this is NOT a reflection on you !
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Default Nov 09, 2005 at 12:56 AM
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WI I want to repeat what others have said... this is not a reflection on you!

Math programs change over time, and even if they didn't, you can't really be proficient with stuff you don't use daily. I am actually EXCELLENT in calculus... but I haven't used it in several years now and when I see calculus stuff I can't even remember what the symbols mean anymore. Same with programming... I am trying to learn that again and I am picking it up slowly but I have to keep up with it to remember it. If you don't use it, it doesn't really attach to anything "meaningful" in your memory so your memory flushes it to make room for more useful stuff. And I know from knowing you here that your brain is fiilled with TONS of useful stuff, that is, useful to you in your life.

It may be too late for tonight but I used to be good in algebra, if you wanted to post some I might be able to figure out what it is about. I do think it is a good idea to look into hiring a tutor for her. Or talk to the teacher and see what recommendations they have. I doubt they would expect you to be an expert on the particular subject matter, and if they do, then they aren't living in a realistic world. Sure, algebra has its place but not for everyone, jeez.

And I also agree with others... not only is this NOT a reflection on you but the school is grading HER knowledge of algebra, not YOURS... and I firmly believe that parents have to be involved with school but that means setting up a good work environment and encouraging the child... it does NOT mean you have to understand the subject matter for every class, that is the TEACHER'S part of the equation. Just the fact that you are frustrated with this tells us that you are concerned and are doing what you can. But "what you can" is to encourage her to study, make sure she understands the importance of school, etc.

You are a good parent, give yourself credit for caring and putting in the effort. It is your attitude of trying to help that will do the most for her, teaching her by example to work hard and do her best.

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Default Nov 09, 2005 at 08:33 AM
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I'm trying to go back to school & having to take 3 math classes before I can even qualify to take Basic College Algebra, so don't feel bad - I never even passed it in high school - a teacher gave me a 'pity D-'.

I bought 'Algebra for Dummies' & the textbook I bought for my basic math class is the teacher's edition (I found it on half.com - the school wanted $90 for it, half had it for $30) so I could flip back & forth while I was doing the exercises. It's got all the steps laid out, not just answers to the questions, it's also got 'teaching tips' that outline different ways of explaining the problems to make it easier for students to understand.

Try looking up the ISBN of your daughter's textbook online & see if you can find maybe a slightly older teacher's version - it may help.

Talk to your daughter's teacher, too - maybe you could 'sit in' on a class or two & see if you can grasp what the teacher's trying to explain?

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Default Nov 09, 2005 at 10:01 AM
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Wi Fi, my mom wasn't good at math so she wasn't really able to help me. She let me knew that she had problems with it and encouraged me to seek a friend or talk to the teacher to help. I am not so good at math either so it helped me realize that not everyone is good at everything! I don't have kids yet, but when the time comes when they will be working with fractions...I know I will be unable to help. You are NOT "too stupid" *HUUUGS*. I also suggest talking with her teacher, my mother did that and it helped a bunch.

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Default Nov 09, 2005 at 11:00 AM
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I just got email from her teacher. She's not taking lecture notes, copying problems from the board or writing down the assignments, and is disorganized.

She suggested putting her into Intro to Algebra because homework is easier, but she still has to take notes, write down assignments, and be organized.

We all know she's smart enough for Algebra 1.

How well do recorders pick up lectures in class? If she refuses to or can't take notes because of her attention problems, is that the next option? I don't want her dad being her at-home math teacher. He screams at her if she doesn't understand his instructions and insists that his way is better than the teachers'.
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I'm guessing that her lack of note taking and inattention is the problem in ALL of her classes.

She got an F in Science.
She got an F in English.
She got an F in Spanish.
She got a D in History.
She got a D in Algebra.
She got a D- in Health.
She got an F in Art. That one totally baffles me. This kid LIVES for art.
She got an F in gym. HOW do you get an F in gym? They have written tests, she doesn't like her teacher (I don't blame her. Teacher's already left bruises on her arm because she got mad at her last year), so she doesn't participate in class.

Cripes! I'm going to have to home school her at night on top of her going to public school during the day.

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I'm so sorry, S. You have been through so much lately. This is the last thing you need Too stupid to be a parent

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((((((((((wi_fighter)))))))))) something is going on with her if she isn't even trying, especially in a favorite subject. does she have a counselor or willing to talk to school counselor?
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Please don't be so hard on yourself. Too stupid to be a parent My daughter is an architect which required a lot of math. The other night she called her dad who was an engineer which also required a lot of math. She was trying to find the answer for her son's 4th grade math question!!! I don't even remember the question much less the answer. lol.

Anyway, my daughter and my husband didn't know the answer so....she called my youngest son who is student teaching 6th grade math and he was able to help with the correct answer.

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She has a counselor right now. Her answer to why she's not doing the work is "I don't know." Her answer to what she needs to help her is "I don't know."

She said if she stayed with me full time that she'd do better in school, that her dad stresses her out too much. Well I can't take the stress anymore. She's going to have to stay with him on her scheduled weeks to give me a break. At least he's not calling every other day to check up on her any more.

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