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#1
Mar 29, 2006, 11:48 AM
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It's in the trial stage now at one facility..I believe in new York..if memory serves. This arm band or wrist band delivers quite a whopper of a shock. One reporter was shown getting shocked by one. She said it was like getting stung by several bees at a time. My worry: is this wise to adopt as a method of stopping children from acting out in school? Or is this a form of abuse? The thing is: the same shock is given to a 5 yr old that is given to a 16 year old. There isen't even a measurement system in place.
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Mar 29, 2006, 11:48 AM
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It's in the trial stage now at one facility..I believe in new York..if memory serves. This arm band or wrist band delivers quite a whopper of a shock. One reporter was shown getting shocked by one. She said it was like getting stung by several bees at a time. My worry: is this wise to adopt as a method of stopping children from acting out in school? Or is this a form of abuse? The thing is: the same shock is given to a 5 yr old that is given to a 16 year old. There isen't even a measurement system in place.
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Mar 29, 2006, 12:15 PM
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that sounds just horrible!! I don't recommend shock therapy for anyone in my opinion!
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Mar 29, 2006, 12:15 PM
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that sounds just horrible!! I don't recommend shock therapy for anyone in my opinion!
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Mar 29, 2006, 12:50 PM
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I tell you my child wouldn't go through that is so mean, They can come up with something then that for children, Let us try it out on them not the children.
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Mar 29, 2006, 12:50 PM
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I tell you my child wouldn't go through that is so mean, They can come up with something then that for children, Let us try it out on them not the children.
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Mar 29, 2006, 01:51 PM
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Definetely sounds like abuse to me!!!
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Mar 29, 2006, 02:00 PM
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It's abuse! They're children! They're not adults with mental problems with the knowlege about ECT and it doesn't sound like they're given a chance to even say if they want it or not!
That's just cruel, IMO!
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Mar 29, 2006, 02:00 PM
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It's abuse! They're children! They're not adults with mental problems with the knowlege about ECT and it doesn't sound like they're given a chance to even say if they want it or not!
That's just cruel, IMO!
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Mar 29, 2006, 02:15 PM
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My father underwent ECT a year ago for severe PTSD in a VA hospital and I feel terrible about it. He was desperate to get my mother to come back to him so he went through with it. I would have been there, but he told me that he hated me earlier that day, so I didn't go see him. I felt awful, even though he was so mean and scary, I should have been there. What a nightmare! Even though adults are consenting, it is abuse because it robs you of memories, good and bad. No way I'd let my child go through that
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Mar 29, 2006, 02:15 PM
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My father underwent ECT a year ago for severe PTSD in a VA hospital and I feel terrible about it. He was desperate to get my mother to come back to him so he went through with it. I would have been there, but he told me that he hated me earlier that day, so I didn't go see him. I felt awful, even though he was so mean and scary, I should have been there. What a nightmare! Even though adults are consenting, it is abuse because it robs you of memories, good and bad. No way I'd let my child go through that
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Mar 29, 2006, 03:57 PM
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The shock is delivered by remote control. Looks like a little clicker. I wanted to correct that this is going on in a facility in Ct. But kids from as far as New York are arriving at the center for the therapy.
New York is seeking to actually Ban the use of this.Wise choice, IMO.
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Mar 29, 2006, 03:57 PM
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The shock is delivered by remote control. Looks like a little clicker. I wanted to correct that this is going on in a facility in Ct. But kids from as far as New York are arriving at the center for the therapy.
New York is seeking to actually Ban the use of this.Wise choice, IMO.
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Mar 29, 2006, 04:04 PM
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uuuuh, no, I think that's a bunch of hoakie crap, and it doesn't benefit anybody.......shocking people with electricity, that's ridicules.....plus the psychiatrist and whoever that do this do not have the qualifications to do so, and will one day kill somebody. If they haven't already.
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Mar 29, 2006, 04:04 PM
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uuuuh, no, I think that's a bunch of hoakie crap, and it doesn't benefit anybody.......shocking people with electricity, that's ridicules.....plus the psychiatrist and whoever that do this do not have the qualifications to do so, and will one day kill somebody. If they haven't already.
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Mar 29, 2006, 04:42 PM
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http://www.newsday.com/news/local/lo...chools-archive Is the story in Newsday... I'm searching for the originating info.
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Mar 29, 2006, 04:42 PM
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http://www.newsday.com/news/local/lo...chools-archive Is the story in Newsday... I'm searching for the originating info.
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Mar 29, 2006, 04:51 PM
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</font><blockquote><div id="quote"><font class="small">Quote:</font>
While the American Psychiatric Association has no policy regarding the use of mild shock for behavior modification, individual experts say they are surprised at the methods in place at Rotenberg. Edward Carr, a Stony Brook University psychology professor who specializes in autism and mental retardation, called the therapy "primitive." </div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> To say the Very Least!!  When I was in a mental hospital almost three yrs ago, there was a woman there that had gotten shock treatments for depression. IMO, they may as well have given her a frontal lobotomy!!! I know it's not the same as what these kids are getting, but like the article says; it reminds you of "One Flew Over the Coocoo's Nest"!!
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Mar 29, 2006, 04:51 PM
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</font><blockquote><div id="quote"><font class="small">Quote:</font>
While the American Psychiatric Association has no policy regarding the use of mild shock for behavior modification, individual experts say they are surprised at the methods in place at Rotenberg. Edward Carr, a Stony Brook University psychology professor who specializes in autism and mental retardation, called the therapy "primitive." </div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> To say the Very Least!! When I was in a mental hospital almost three yrs ago, there was a woman there that had gotten shock treatments for depression. IMO, they may as well have given her a frontal lobotomy!!! I know it's not the same as what these kids are getting, but like the article says; it reminds you of "One Flew Over the Coocoo's Nest"!!
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Mar 29, 2006, 04:51 PM
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Thanks Sky. I've added that site to my favs.
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Mar 29, 2006, 04:54 PM
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I haven't found much. I know many ppl use the rubber band on their wrist to help correct their own behavior... but these seem to be ppl who haven't learned self control. IDK...it's restricted to this one place it seems... I just don't know what to think yet.
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Mar 29, 2006, 04:54 PM
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I haven't found much. I know many ppl use the rubber band on their wrist to help correct their own behavior... but these seem to be ppl who haven't learned self control. IDK...it's restricted to this one place it seems... I just don't know what to think yet.
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Mar 29, 2006, 04:54 PM
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The product of some over-educated fools who have nothing better to do. Blahh. Can you imagine the longterm effects of this? Hmph!!
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Mar 29, 2006, 04:54 PM
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The product of some over-educated fools who have nothing better to do. Blahh. Can you imagine the longterm effects of this? Hmph!!
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Mar 29, 2006, 05:03 PM
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Not from the shock itself...as I think that is neglible.((Trying to find out.)) ( Kind of like testing a 9v with your tongue
 ?) If they aren't able to come up with "proper" behavior on their own... who decides on which aversion therapy is acceptable and which isn't?
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