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Old Sep 08, 2016, 01:57 PM
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I have been involved in a certain hard issue (of international impact) and sometimes I feel I cannot do the normal life things anymore.

It seems so shallow. I look at people chit chatting about this and that and think "what does it matter? You know this all may come to end soon and you are doing nothing to stop impending disaster...." or even worse, I get angry if I hear somebody complaining about their everyday "troubles". Like that girl with huge dilema "I like coca cola, but it's making me fat", when me and my friend wanted to discuss SERIOUS DIRE things.

During my recent trip to Ukraine somebody told me "but we are fighting for this normal, everyday fluff, for the normal life, so people can live it". I guess. But to me "European civilization" is not about *****ing about shallow things, while ignoring the important manners.

I know not everybody will care for the things I care for (eventhough I consider them existential crisis to our whole civilization... but I have always been dramatic somewhat). I guess at one point this is over and if it works out, I will have to live the normal life and... enjoy it even.

Still. I have hard to find it hard to relate to most people, especially living in a country which has been declared one of the safest places for life, the capital one of the best places for live in Europe... but from that *****ing and whining that goes in the subway, the malls, the somewhat overpriced caffes and pubs and the FB, you would say this is Alleppo we are talking about). And people ignore what goes not not so far from here, eventhough it COULD impact us and shatter our "safe and good place to live" reality we don't even value so much at the moment.

Not sure what can I do with it. Maybe I just needed to rant....
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Old Sep 08, 2016, 02:21 PM
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I don't want to get all Sigmund Freud on you, but maybe you're projecting the anger that you feel about international conflict onto people who you perceive as not as concerned about international conflict. Maybe these people care more about international conflict than you believe.

I know that Putin is marching his troops to the West, but people going about their business in an ordinary way are not the enemy.

I hope this helps.
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Old Sep 08, 2016, 02:27 PM
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Well, according to an article in The Ukrainian Week, I am just experiencing post-traumatic syndrom symptoms...

which makes sense.

Yeah, I know from the fundraisers from the past... people do care. Maybe they are just afraid or feel they cannot change a thing.

Rationally, I know that the people of my town at the once who matter and reason why one gets involved. And the luxuries of the west are reason people marched up on Maidan... well one of them. Freedom and all, but we want the shopping malls too. So it makes no sense to get angry at that.

I guess it's just my fears mixed up with... i don't know... frustration or whatnot.
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Old Sep 08, 2016, 02:36 PM
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Well, according to an article in The Ukrainian Week, I am just experiencing post-traumatic syndrom symptoms...

which makes sense.

Yeah, I know from the fundraisers from the past... people do care. Maybe they are just afraid or feel they cannot change a thing.

Rationally, I know that the people of my town at the once who matter and reason why one gets involved. And the luxuries of the west are reason people marched up on Maidan... well one of them. Freedom and all, but we want the shopping malls too. So it makes no sense to get angry at that.

I guess it's just my fears mixed up with... i don't know... frustration or whatnot.
Yes, I think it's frustration. You care so much, you do so much, and I commend you for your efforts towards this very serious situation. However, your efforts require so much energy that you must take a break every so often. It's okay to take a break. Recharge your battery.
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Old Sep 08, 2016, 02:43 PM
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I used to follow the news, and listen to talk shows and read news websites about world events. It irritated the heck out of me that nobody around me cared about the country going down the drain, and the world overall becoming a worse place. My family got to where they would tune me out and not listen even if I was talking about something they needed to know. I don't seem to pay as much attention anymore, as the world is a messed up place and it will get worse whether I follow the details or not.
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Old Sep 10, 2016, 06:43 PM
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Hey Venusss ! I do think that PTSD is a big part of your struggle trying to make sense of things. You encounter things that the vast majority of members here on PC can't imagine, myself included.

I'm not handling the political mess here in the US very well , I have needed to be and ostrich and just stick my head in the sand and avoid it all at times.

Are you able to take a trip to somewhere that can give you some breathing room ? I know you always love to travel.
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Old Sep 11, 2016, 03:10 PM
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Hey Venusss ! I do think that PTSD is a big part of your struggle trying to make sense of things. You encounter things that the vast majority of members here on PC can't imagine, myself included.

I'm not handling the political mess here in the US very well , I have needed to be and ostrich and just stick my head in the sand and avoid it all at times.

Are you able to take a trip to somewhere that can give you some breathing room ? I know you always love to travel.
Yeah, it's hard to relate with people sometimes... and then with people I can relate... I don't want to bother them, because they got their own set of trouble. So it's pretty hard.

I had a recent trip to Ukraine, which helped in a way (cause I seen I am right and doing the right thing), but it unsettled lot of things.

I have now lots of work here, paid and volunteer... so I need to be composed and... around.
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Old Sep 11, 2016, 03:58 PM
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I think I understand how you feel or can relate to it. There is a scene in a show I love where a man is in a coffee shop and all the conversations around him are in a non-language that is just insipid-sounding noise. And he is thinking what is going on? Why do they all sound like this? And he can't wait to just get out of the coffee shop because it is really disturbing to him.
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Old Sep 11, 2016, 05:44 PM
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Venuss, I've had similar feelings in the past. I was passionate about something and could not understand why people were talking about/focused on what I thought were minor petty things. My mom pointed out to me that some times when people are feeling overwhelmed by major things in life it gives them a mental break to focus on minor things for a bit. I don't know that is what's going on around you, but that realization helped me.
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Old Sep 11, 2016, 06:12 PM
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A lot in history is very dramatic, with quite times between. I feel this will go on forever, that it is part of humankind. I don't want that. I used to believe in world peace as a child, that it was possible. Then I believed our times were totally special (cold war), but then that changed too...

I somehow think we are in some turmoil right now, there is a lot of tension even where there is still peace. Something is brewing. I'm not scared, but I am aware. I never thought this would last.

People say the western world is forever but all civilizations have perished eventually. People think technology will only go forward but a regression could happen, like why not?

People are a bit blind. I think they live more one day at a time than I do. Their lives are already full. Maybe also they don't want to feel unsafe. I always felt unsafe since very young so it doesn't bother me the same.

It IS weird that people just go on about everyday type troubles when the world is on fire. But... it was before as well, just not this close in space and time. People survived mentally by trying to keep normalcy. I think most people work like that.

I am lucky to have friends I can talk to. My life goes fast from the big to the small and back. I have stopped trying to control it. Me and friend can curse because the Pokemon we wanted ran away and the next sentence can be about something totally life and death. Maybe we're weird people.
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Old Sep 12, 2016, 08:02 AM
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Then you could live in the US and have to deal with Donald Trump and all that...

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