[magneto]

I have recently given some thought about where I fit in. I don't have a need to fit in anywhere really, I am simply curious of where others would place me.

I don't share most of societies accepted morals.
I don't steal, but it's because I don't want to deal with the consequences of getting caught.

I don't inflict physical or mental pain on others, but it's because I don't have any reason to. They haven't done anything to me so I won't do anything to them.

I don't kill people, but again I have never had a reason too do so. And when I think about it, the only really negative side to it I can think of are the consequences of getting caught.

I have don't really care about other peoples problems. Unless they affect me. If it's a friend I will act like I care and help them if I can, but it's because I don't want to loose their friendship.

On the other hand I do have some things I care about. I love my pets more than anything. In fact animals are the only ones that gets me to truly feel empathy. And my father. I love my father fiercely. I dread the day that he dies.

I abandoned my mother with MS when she let me because she caused me nothing but pain and it had gotten to the point that I resented her for it. I do sometimes feel bad about it, but I would never go back.

My friends love me and consider me a great friend. And despite that I mostly fake empathy with them, I do like them all and I truly love one of them.

I have emotions, dulled as they are. I tear up when watching sad movies. I laugh when I see something funny. I seldom get angry and when I do it is never anything more than irritation, I have never felt rage. I have been infatuated with people, and I take rejection hard, but I have never felt romantic love. I am an atheist and identify myself as an existentialist.

I sleep soundly every night. I do not feel bad about the person I am. I am happy.

Am I a bad person? If you think I am, why? Your answer won't change me as I don't want/need to change. I am simply curious

[Skeezyks]

Hello magneto: I don't know. From what you wrote, you just sound like a pretty-much normal person to me. But then I hardly know anybody. So maybe my perspective is skewed...

You sound fine to me, too. Continue be happy and sleep soundly.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by magneto

I have recently given some thought about where I fit in. I don't have a need to fit in anywhere really, I am simply curious of where others would place me.

I don't share most of societies accepted morals.
I don't steal, but it's because I don't want to deal with the consequences of getting caught.

I don't inflict physical or mental pain on others, but it's because I don't have any reason to. They haven't done anything to me so I won't do anything to them.

I don't kill people, but again I have never had a reason too do so. And when I think about it, the only really negative side to it I can think of are the consequences of getting caught.

I have don't really care about other peoples problems. Unless they affect me. If it's a friend I will act like I care and help them if I can, but it's because I don't want to loose their friendship.

On the other hand I do have some things I care about. I love my pets more than anything. In fact animals are the only ones that gets me to truly feel empathy. And my father. I love my father fiercely. I dread the day that he dies.

I abandoned my mother with MS when she let me because she caused me nothing but pain and it had gotten to the point that I resented her for it. I do sometimes feel bad about it, but I would never go back.

My friends love me and consider me a great friend. And despite that I mostly fake empathy with them, I do like them all and I truly love one of them.

I have emotions, dulled as they are. I tear up when watching sad movies. I laugh when I see something funny. I seldom get angry and when I do it is never anything more than irritation, I have never felt rage. I have been infatuated with people, and I take rejection hard, but I have never felt romantic love. I am an atheist and identify myself as an existentialist.

I sleep soundly every night. I do not feel bad about the person I am. I am happy.

Am I a bad person? If you think I am, why? Your answer won't change me as I don't want/need to change. I am simply curious

lets see yea you are a bad person
yea your a good person

(being sarcastic here because this is a mental health website. that means there are people from all over the world with all kinds of mental illnesses, some of which would think what you posted was a bad person and some of what you posted a mentally ill person may believe is good depending upon what problems the person reading is having in their own mental illness and life)

now for reality no sarcasm ....

given that its my understanding that all posts on psych central are supposed to be of a supportive nature, to me that means not putting someone down, not telling someone they are a bad person because of what they posted...... you wont get me telling any member they are a bad person no matter if their post is of a positive nature or negative nature.

my suggestion would be instead of inviting people to make a judgement of you, decide for yourself whether you believe you are good or bad and if there is something about your self you would like to change or work on, you can contact a mental health treatment provider or other treatment provider that works with what ever changes in your life you would like to make, if there are any.

[avlady]

you sound happy and content to me too! i bet a lot of people would love to be in your shoes.

[Takeshi]

I'm not supposed ta mess with happy person, right?

I don't work at the Behavioral Analysis Unit, I'm just suspicious, man.

Mental health website means exactly just that. It's about the health of our mental faculty, the members here don't have to accept the labels of mental illnesses, a spouse of mentally ill person can join, someone who may not believe in mental illnesses can join and post on this website, there's no background check or anything, and I don't like the skewed view of mentally ill, as if what they say can not be trusted, this kinda disbelief leads to misdiagnosis of disorders that I hear way too often, patients get ignored by doctors, once one get the wrong label of personality disorders or something, the person could be viewed as a lier, there's no way around this.

Modern psychiatric excesses of over diagnosis and over-reliance on pharmacological approaches to solving life's problems, and reducing human feelings to biological etiologies. In these less than humanistically-based approaches, mental health treatment loses sight of the person-centered aspects of the problem.

Dehumanizing Mental Health approach happens because;

There is no entity of mental disorders that exists outside of one's subjective experiences and behaviors.

DSM is the book in which psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health professionals find the codes needed that allow insurance companies to cover the treatments provided. Sad to say, these labels often become the identity by which many people come to see themselves for the rest of their lives.

Now since the spread of misinformation is thwarted, let's talk about a reality a bit.

Existentialism is a philosophy that emphasizes individual existence, freedom and choice. It is the view that humans define their own meaning in life, and try to make rational decisions despite existing in an irrational universe.

Support is when someone is rooting for you by offering an encouragement, sending good vibes, even if things said are potentially of no help to the readers, by not telling 'What I know and did helped, so this should help you too.' type of stuff. To me this means that I get to tell any member that he/she is a bad person, because there's crucial difference between help and support, what I believe we offer is the support, so that each member could receive the gift of support if lucky, and the person who are capable of generating the self-help will no longer require the support, that, what I call a recovery. Or one may prefer to call themselves a survivor. What you do after that doesn't matter, it's a free website, you don't owe us nothing at all.

Am I a bad person? Just setting the record straight, namsayin?

Oh, welcome to the central of all things by the way, you started off good, not bad at all.

What humans have spontaneously identified as good and bad — or as positive and negative — are evolutionary complementations in need of more accurate identifications.
-"Bucky" Fuller

Let us be aware of existential humanistic values of self-responsibility, unconditional regard, and empathic engagement, woven in the tapestry of....err...this space ship thing.

[mugwort2]

You sound lime many, if not most people. IMHO your mantra should be "Its not my prob"

[Takeshi]

Originally Posted by amandalouise

lets see yea you are a bad person
yea your a good person

(being sarcastic here because this is a mental health website. that means there are people from all over the world with all kinds of mental illnesses, some of which would think what you posted was a bad person and some of what you posted a mentally ill person may believe is good depending upon what problems the person reading is having in their own mental illness and life)

This sounds judgmental against mentally ill people. Then again, this seems so pointless when I understand it. Redundancy is what it is. You make the distinction between mentally ill people and ordinary people that may include undiagnosed people harshly for no good reasons. I'm sure you do have some reasons, but I find it annoying, Just had to point that out.

[Takeshi]

Sanskrit mantra -wikipedia

Someone on PC shared this while ago, the person's gone but the person's post really impressed me.

[Takeshi]

I'm a vomit.

[eskielover]

You sound like a normal atheist existentialist to me.

[Takeshi]

The sense of agency and its empirical challenges and the role of consciousness -stanford.edu

WHAT IS EXISTENTIALISM? by Bob Corbett

Normal in what sense? One must imagine Sisyphus happy!

[Takeshi]

I'm gonna stop referring myself as an existentialist from now on.

For the existentialist, the fact of existing becomes not simply declarative but exclamatory (“Imagine! I am!”) and then interrogatory (“…and what am I to make of that?”) “Man becomes a question to himself,”[4] and the question begets more questions, all of which concern the issues inherent to being human. The issues of interest do not concern my being a male or an Ohioan, a laborer or a Protestant or a neurotic; the focus instead is on those problems common to every human being by virtue of that status: What does it mean to choose? What shall serve as meaning for me? What am I to make of my fellows? And, in Ionesco’s haunting words, “Why was I born if it wasn’t forever?”

Existentialism Here and Now -By Alfie Kohn

I question the motive behind this thread.

This is normalcy?

No wonder I find it hard to connect with people.

[magneto]

Originally Posted by Takeshi

I question the motive behind this thread.

Not looking to "convert" anyone or start a movement or anything. I just mentioned existentialism because it gives you a clue about my mindset.

I was simply curious because I am happy and have few worries in my life but according to the accepted opinion of the majority of people I have met, I should be empty inside and depressed because there is no higher meaning or point to life my, or what I do with it. I don't have anything that drives me, no goal to work towards. And that doesn't bother me one bit. I'm still happy.

But as I can see here, I'm not alone in feeling the way I do.

[Takeshi]

The Unknown Citezen

I can't never know you, I think we have the same understandings there. The happiness, is something that ensues, I'm,,I'm good, hearing about it.

[Unrigged64072835]

if you're happy and not harming anybody else then live your life in the way you see fit.

[eskielover]

Originally Posted by GoldenWaves

This is normalcy?

No wonder I find it hard to connect with people.

This is normalcy for people with that belief & philosophy of life. This is NOT normalcy for everyone. Not everyone holds that philosophy or those values. I have found that connecting with people who hold like beliefs & philosophies as our own to be much easier.

[Takeshi]

Bad faith lies and hates. That is a morally imperialistic BS, a bad sinner talk.

In the nebula between hate and love, a fixer detaches himself, I seek!!

[Takeshi]

Originally Posted by GoldenWaves

This is normalcy?

No wonder I find it hard to connect with people.

I thought this was a rhetorical question. I don't pretend to know. We come from nothing and brainwashed with everything. There're some meanings, perhaps to be conceived in *the matrix*. It's a little star with shocking waves, with not much concern for the risks that's ahead, yes, it's normal for someone to not knowing, the question of what, as if the consciousness is a thing.

Mistakes are defining feature of what it means to be a human.

Una-wakened,,, one recites and the other explores and discovers with free will!



It is and isn't, philosophical attitudes aside, It's personal! it says. Taking over this shared reality the easy way, it's like dropping off dirty clothes at a dry cleaners, theories can have any colors and facts shall listen, a person is in the act, it's appalling to hear someone's being normal, that's like a masked mediocrity (talking). I think the morality works the best in the shape that's described in the OP. People can build the rest with responsibilities in every parts of the society.

I'm halfway! It's simply a statement with as much truth in it.

[Takeshi]

Faking empathy as an existentialist makes one an inauthentic person. Being inauthentic doesn't make the person an existentialist. (One can try not to be inauthentic of course.)

Therefore, an inauthentic existentialist doesn't exist.

Everything written on this post is either false or meaningless.

It's something like that. I can't compute dialetheism, I'll just go fake myself.

[magneto]

Originally Posted by Takeshi

Faking empathy as an existentialist makes one an inauthentic person. Being inauthentic doesn't make the person an existentialist. (One can try not to be inauthentic of course.)

Therefore, an inauthentic existentialist doesn't exist.

Everything written on this post is either false or meaningless.

It's something like that. I can't compute dialetheism, I'll just go fake myself.

I assure you that nothing I have claimed about myself is untrue. If my questions and statements seem random and uncoordinated it's because I am not learned in this things. I freely admit maybe using the wrong words to express my meaning. It's hard to formulate yourself perfectly about things when it's the first time you try to do so.

Okay, so you have decided that I cannot be an existentialist because part of my behavior doesn't fit with the philosophy. Maybe I'm wrong then. In your opinion what am I? A moral nihilist? I find that I fit very well with that group too, but as with existentialism, not completely.

This is kind of the reason I had the urge to ask someone actually. I call myself an existentialist because that was a philosophy I thought fit the most. but I am aware that I'm not a text book case of one. I haven't read enough about it to be sure, but the more I read the more I realize I don't seem to fit any philosophy perfectly. What does that make me? A moron? A genius? Or just plain normal? Do you choose your philosophy or does it choose you? Is there a choice involved at all? Do I have to fit with a known philosophy at all in order to have a philosophy? Is it possible to not have a philosophy?

I don't expect anyone to answer these questions as I'm not quite sure most of them can be answered. I am sorry if I have aggravated anybody, this was not my intention. It was just a misguided search to see if there are like minded people somewhere. And as most people here seems either disinterested in or frustrated by this thread, which is understandable as it was probably the wrong place to post it, I will stop posting.

Thank you for your answers and sorry if I offended anyone.

I thought you asked people if you are normal or not. I cannot categorize you to any philosophy because I'm not interested in philosophy. The majority of people told you that you are normal. Were they disinterested for you? Maybe they misunderstood your question if you wanted a philosophical answer. It wasn't clear that's what you wanted.

[magneto]

Originally Posted by Mr. Stranger

I thought you asked people if you are normal or not. I cannot categorize you to any philosophy because I'm not interested in philosophy. The majority of people told you that you are normal. Were they disinterested for you? Maybe they misunderstood your question if you wanted a philosophical answer. It wasn't clear that's what you wanted.

I didn't mean that like it probably sounded. Not *****ing about not getting the right answers. just made an observation. And as I said, I'm not good at formulating myself correctly and that I see I'm in the wrong place for this. Sorry.

[eskielover]

I think it's normal to have thoughts & beliefs that cross boundaries & philosophies especially if you are not the philosopher who is sitting down & defining your thoughts & giving them a label.

Does it really matter what labels we fall under. The important thing is being able to express our thoughts which in REALITY aren't cast in stone & change in time with our experiences