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Old Sep 21, 2007, 05:17 PM
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honesty used to be my policy, but it's come back to bite me often enough for me to reconsider my convictions on the matter. just today my penchant for telling the truth put me back to square one concerning my quest for professional help with panic attacks that have been troubling me lately. i had a psychiatric evaluation with a nurse practitioner today at the local mental health center. after about an hour of taking my history down we got into the discussion of medication options. she wasn't offering me anything i particularly wanted to take - antidepressants (HELLO? PANIC - NOT DEPRESSION) that have to be taken daily, but nothing potentially addictive. i could see where this was going (i've experienced this sort of discrimination before), but i couldn't resist asking at what point would i be offered something useful...after i'd guinea-pigged all the useless crap? and then she went into how she was unable to offer me anything prn or otherwise effective (read possibly addictive) due to a state law which prohibits prescribing such things to anyone who's used any illicit drugs within the past year. my crime? not coke or heroin or crack or meth - i've never done any of those. just a wee little puff of mexican ditchweed over two months ago, which i stopped because smoking it had begun triggering panic attacks. because i've done a little harmless (illegal - so what) self-medication, i can't be prescribed possibly addictive drugs even though i've never been addicted to and/or abused anything. lawmakers should keep their noses out of the mental health business.

I'M PISSED! never tell the truth

i just sorta wish she hadn't wasted my and her time with the initial history. in fact, i've wasted about six hours all together with this mental health center. if they'd just put a sign up on the front door that reads "lie to us about your past - otherwise you're screwed."

The panic thing was just a momentary lapse of sanity. it's over. it has to be, cuz i won't get any help if i ask - that's obvious. never tell the truth

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Old Sep 21, 2007, 07:15 PM
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Sometimes the truth" hurts more than is necessary. And sometimes it isn't even the truth. Perceptions vary. But if you've smoked weed, it isnt' any of their business IMO.

I don't think 100 percent honesty over every little thing is ALWAYS either possible or healthy. But being lied to sucks.

My mother used to talk about "white lies". But then she lied to me about huge things....:~(

Discrimination sucks.

***** em, I agree. I've found if I bend over backwards to be 100 percent honest with the providers they screw me over. They screw me over anyway.

I might change my mind about some of this tomorrow.

I think it's time to go back to posting umbrellas for a while...
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Old Sep 22, 2007, 06:46 AM
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I still think it is important to always tell the truth......but then again, I believe that somethings are best UNSAID.....especially when they aren't important or relavent to the situation.....that way you haven't said the truth or lied....it just isn't said.

I don't believe in doing this very often, but sometimes it's necessary when if means the difference in getting what you need of loosing out. Most of the time I believe in telling the truth no matter what. Most of the time, when one lies, it always leads to more lied & then even more to keep covering ones tracks. It just complicates situations that are usually better off being straight forward & explaining the situation with the truth.

Most of the time however I start off not saying things until I know just how much it's safe to say. I have learned this over the years however because I used to be quite open about things until I had them used against me....from that point on....I kept things on a "NEED TO KNOW" basis only. That way, I found it put me in better control of situations.

Fuzzy,

I just want to tell the truth....I really enjoy reading these posts with your true thoughts & feelings about these subjects.....you do very well without the unbrellas. It is sad when parents contradict themselves....it sounds like your parents are good ones to learn what you "DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE". We can learn from our parents either way....we can learn to be like the things we like about them & we can learn to be different from the things we hate about them. That is the wonderful part of being able to learn from our experiences.

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Old Sep 22, 2007, 09:18 AM
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I agree with you Debbie....Papa Bear used to lie to his parents when they asked him when he went to Church. He tried to not say anything, but if they pushed the issue, he didn't tell the truth! That bothered me and I wished he felt he could be straight with them.
never tell the truth

Need to know basis, a good thing to aim for!

I have tried not to be like my parents, and most of the time I succeed (although that is open to perception, I'm sure) I do think I'm a "better" person and my friends IRL agree with me (they would do I suppose, as they are my friends) I've never once been accused of lying IRL except by my father who said "you're a stranger to the truth"... I don't remember what that was about but maybe he was talking about himself.

He only once told me he loved me and that was on my wedding day. I don't blame him for that, it was the "way he was brought up".

Thanks for your truth about my posts!
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Old Sep 22, 2007, 12:57 PM
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Fuzzy,

You're welcome for the "truth" about your posts....I do enjoy reading what you have to say (& that's the truth!!!!)

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Old Sep 22, 2007, 01:06 PM
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"Oh, what tangled webs we weave when at first we learn to deceive!"

I've lived on both sides of the tracks. I prefer the TRUTH side much, much more!
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