[Jellyfish18]

For saying "I will hurt myself if you don't arrange this quickly"? (Pertaining to a situation.) Can you be hospitalised in a MH hospital for hitting a parent multiple times (with them being psychologically abusive) but not having delusions or being depressed?

[unlived]

Originally Posted by Jellyfish18

Can you be hospitalised in a MH hospital for hitting a parent multiple times

You can sure be arrested.

[Jellyfish18]

Originally Posted by unlived

You can sure be arrested.

In a MH hospital?

if you get arrested you *might* get sent to a psychiatric ward,
but most likely if you are underage you will get sent to a juvenile detention center

[Jellyfish18]

Originally Posted by Kori Anders

if you get arrested you *might* get sent to a psychiatric ward,
but most likely if you are underage you will get sent to a juvenile detention center

But why would you get sent to a hospital for those things, and each at a separate occasion?

[Nammu]

If you got lucky you were hospitalized for those actions instead of arrested. Your behavior was out of line.

[Sunflower123]

You can be hospitalized if you are at risk of harm to yourself or others. If someone continually assaults a parent(no matter what the reason) they will be far more likely to get arrested then sent straight to a hospital. Not a good strategy or a good idea.

[amandalouise]

yes you can be hospitalized in a mental facility or hospital mental health unit by telling someone you are going to hurt yourself if they do not do what you want them to do, and yes you can be hospitalized in a mental facility or hospital for assaulting your parents...

here is how it works where I live...

......Anyone.... can report ......anyone ...... for being a danger to their self and others to the police. the police does what they call a ....well check.... thats when they come to you and do their own assessment of the situation.... if they find that the situation needs more investigating and that the person did make a threat of suicide or self harm or threats of action or violence against another person the police take that person who made the threats into custody (this is called arrest for probably cause threats of harm to one self or others) then they transport that person to the nearest emergency room where a mental health assessment is done. if it is found that the person is a danger to their self or others they are hospitalized in that hospitals mental health unit or medically transported to the nearest mental facility for as little as 72 hours and can be as long as needed.

if the mental health assessment shows there is no medical or mental reason for the persons violent behavior against their self, their parents or anyone else the person is arrested formally for assault, battery and other violent crimes with intent to harm someone. the person is taken to jail, booked, and shown to their jail cell and put under suicide / homicide watch while they wait for their time to go before a judge to find out how much their bail is and whether they want to plead guilty or innocent and have a trial of waive their right to a trial and the judge imposes the sentence. in situations like this the judge can impose a fine and community service and probation or jail time or remand the person over to a mental facility until the treatment providers in the mental facility can state the person is stable, complying with all treatments and is no longer a danger to their self or others.

my suggestion is not to hit your parents, even once your parents can call the police and have you removed from their home to either foster care, juvenile detention or jail depending upon your age. or if your parents feel you are having mental problems your parents can take you or have you taken to a mental facility or hospital for an evaluation and treatment.

[MickeyCheeky]

Abusing someone else phisically is illegal..

Agreed. Not a good strategy for what you're trying to achieve, Jelly.

[Jellyfish18]

I'm not "trying to achieve" anything. I just wanted to know. I'd think you would send the person to jail not a hospital.
And many many young people actually hurt themselves but never go to hospital so the first makes zero sense.

[notz]

Jellyfish18,

What you have described is a physical assault upon another person(s). Laws on assault vary by country and in the US, they also vary by state. Since each country and state has its own laws, there is no universal assault law. No one here can give you an exact legal answer. Only a local, licensed attorney can give you the best advice on the laws of your area.

As a general rule, a physical assault is more egregious than a verbal or psychological assault. The common law reasoning is that a physical assault has the potential to cause bodily harm or death more quickly therefore the threat is more imminent. That makes physical assault more dangerous in the eyes of the law in most locales. So, in essence, by hitting another person(s) you placed yourself in a class of crime (assault) that is legally acted upon before certain other types of crime. Physical beats verbal every day of the week. Arrest, detention or incarceration depends upon the laws of your area and how they are implemented. Jails are not helpful places and look bad on your record whereas a hospital will probably be your best bet.

I hope things calm down and you are able to take a clear look at what is happening.

[Molinit]

Originally Posted by Jellyfish18

For saying "I will hurt myself if you don't arrange this quickly"? (Pertaining to a situation.) Can you be hospitalised in a MH hospital for hitting a parent multiple times (with them being psychologically abusive) but not having delusions or being depressed?

The above is what "you're trying to achieve" It's manipulative and childish.

[Jellyfish18]

Originally Posted by Molinit

The above is what "you're trying to achieve" It's manipulative and childish.

No offence but you don't even know me. So please go post somewhere else and try not to tell others what they are going to do.

[Guiness187055]

I would think being arrested for assault would be the first step.

You will be arrested and sent to jail where you would stay until your court date unless someone posts bond. The judge can sentence you to a hospital if they find that you were out of your mind at the time of the assault but that is highly unlikely especially since you aren't psychotic and knew what you were doing.

This is a lot darker, but to put it in perspective...there is a woman who was abused and tortured her entire life by her mother who had Munchasen's by proxy. She ended up killing her because she saw no other way out. No one doubts that this literally made her go insane...but she's now serving a sentence in PRISON, not a mental hospital.

We are still accountable for our actions.

PS hurting yourself alone does not get you hospitalized. Especially for most insurance to pay for it they have to have reason to believe your life is in danger.

[TishaBuv]

Do you want to be hospitalized? Are you trying to get hospitalized? Or is your goal to not get hospitalized?

Stop hitting your parent. If you can't get your anger under control get help. You can call a psychologist and make an appointment yourself or you can go to your school counselor and ask for help. Why would your parent allow you to hit them and do nothing?

[Artchic528]

Originally Posted by Jellyfish18

For saying "I will hurt myself if you don't arrange this quickly"? (Pertaining to a situation.) Can you be hospitalised in a MH hospital for hitting a parent multiple times (with them being psychologically abusive) but not having delusions or being depressed?

Giving an ultimatum, with threat of self harm no less, isn't how you ask for something. Now, I don't know the full situation here, and am not asking for it to be given, but IMHO, demanding something with the threat of self harm is the exact same thing as a 3 year old having a temper tantrum and holding their breath because their parent denied them something they wanted, but didn't necessarily need.

My brother threatened to self harm if he didn't get a cell phone at one point in his youth, and he was a one of those troubled youth that had to be sent away to a camp for troubled youths before he recognized that his behavior would create big problems for him.

As for your second inquiry....Hitting anyone, no matter the situation, isn't acceptable. It's also against the law and considered assault and battery and the offender can be charged and sentenced to jail time, or upon further evaluation, can be sent to a psych ward for treatment as they are hostile towards others, and possibly themselves and require a course of treatment to neutralize that threat of hostility.

So yeah, while I don't know at all what is going on, I can honestly say with 100% certainty that this behavior isn't at all acceptable in anyone, much less a teenager or grown adult.

[Artchic528]

Originally Posted by Molinit

The above is what "you're trying to achieve" It's manipulative and childish.

I agree. It's a tactic a toddler would employ via holding their breath or something similar.

[Artchic528]

Originally Posted by Jellyfish18

No offence but you don't even know me. So please go post somewhere else and try not to tell others what they are going to do.

Hon, no one here is presuming to know who you are, or telling you what to do. They are simply stating it like it is. Threatening self harm via an ultimatum is manipulative and childish, plain and simple.

I can see how this revelation is upsetting to you, however, I feel that you shouldn't be so defensive. Maybe some self care is in order? A calming session of meditation? Whatever helps you to refocus and center yourself and bring your mind into a calm and zen-like state.

Honestly, if you feel the need to be hospitalized so badly, just do what I did several years ago in a desperate attempt to escape from my family full of crazies and go to ER and tell them you are having homicidal and suicidal thoughts and appear distraught enough that they have enough reason to think that you will act on said thoughts.

It works every time.

While I think that if your parents are really psychologically abusive to you, they deserve to get the **** kicked out of them, the law, unfortunately, doesn't agree with many of my controversial opinions. Don't obtain a criminal record over the actions of insignificant people like abusers. Instead, do what I wish I had the courage to do and leave them, preferably while giving them the middle finger.

Some very clear answers here; and no, they are not personal attacks. You asked a question and we are answering it.

I have the same problems with your statement. It all sounds very childish and it might be time to 'adult up'. Perhaps the answer is to get help. Is this what you actually want? As others have asked, I question too that the real result you are looking for is that things be taken out of your hands with the ultimate end of being hospitalised.

At the end of the day, your actions are not appropriate. The solution is to get help whether you do this willingly or unwillingly.