I just want to say thanks for the 21+ chat room. It never made sense to me to have a teen room but not an adult room. I think I will enjoy spending time there.

It doesn't make much sense to me, after all 18+ technically is the adult starting age. Besides I'm 17, and I can surely tell you a number doesn't determine maturity, experience does, and almost all of our teens here have had challenges at a young young age.....we're all mature in my opinion...

Just my opinion..I fully respect yours..have a good one!

Dustin

[bebop]

I applaud you doc and the team!

[kazzii91]

i have to say i realy dont like the new chat room, i am 16 and sooooo mature for my age u wuld think im a grown adult most of the time, i have been through most things adults have and teenagers haven, i find it alot easyer to talk to adults as i get alot more advice as they have had more experience.

also i needed to speak to a certain somebody that was in the 21+ room and it was urgent, i went in soley to pm tht person and i told the main chat in there i would be gone after i had pm the person, and i was treated with arogance and was in tears wen i left due to the way a certain somebody reacted to me being in there.

to me it feels like we are being split up and cant talk as one big group and share our problems, the teen chat isnt used as most of us teens like talking to the adults

i respect everybodies opinoin this is just mine

kaz xxxx

(having a bad day dont worry if i sound nasty)

[DocJohn]

This is not to any specific person...

You're welcome.

As for the reasoning, well, the teens had their own chat room, so it seemed to make sense for adults to have their own as well. 21 is just an arbitrary number (since 18+ would technically include some teens, as teenagers go from 10 - 19).

The point is, 21+ is for adult conversations. And the entire chat system, outside of social, is most generally focused on mental health support.

I also appreciate people not becoming the "adult" police either, demanding people share their age with others. That's not the point of these rooms and if you are asked your age, feel free to politely decline such a request.

Thank you,
DocJohn

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II can surely tell you a number doesn't determine maturity, experience does, and almost all of our teens here have had challenges at a young young age.....

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So true Dustin, so true.

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i needed to speak to a certain somebody that was in the 21+ room and it was urgent, i went in soley to pm tht person and i told the main chat in there i would be gone after i had pm the person, and i was treated with arogance and was in tears wen i left

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I'm so sorry that happened to you, Kaz. It truly goes to show that the number doesn't mean anything, even so called "adults" can be immature, disrespectfuly, and downright rude. It all depends on the person, not the age.

I shall leave my words at that, I'm just going to bow out of this issue, as there is no reason for me to believe that teens shall start receiving respect at this site.

Rather respectfully (and completely not intended to "hijack a thread",
Melissa

[(JD)]

I think it will take a little bit of time to assimilate the change. I guess it's another one of those things that the site itself will work out, with time. Of course there will be those who create a new account so they can be in a chat room they aren't truly supposed to be in.

I'm willing to take members at face value, and expect good old peer pressure to help keep order, as it used to years ago. I think adults can handle that, coming from other adults. I know when I'm challenged, once I work through it, I'm better for it.

One thing I have seen and am concerned about is the room becoming another support-chat type room. IMO it's important to still treat this new chat room like the main or social one, and any support beyond a certain level (which is variable depending upon the members involved) should still be taken to a support chat room.

That it's secluded from youth doesn't mean there aren't other members who need a break from heavy counseling. From what I've seen/read in chat, there are many adults who really need good adult conversation.

Thanks for the room, DocJohn. Maybe in another year us oldtimers will get one for 40+

[SeptemberMorn]

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This is already happening. To me, it's an insult to the adults intelligence. Only teenagers can be naive enough to think they can put it over on us that have teenagers or have raised teenagers.

As for an over 40 chat room, we can start one of our own without Admin's help that we can control ourselves.

[Raynaadi]

Just a reminder too that if there is an unruly member taking away from an adult-type conversation, the ignore feature is a big help. If all those who want an adult conversation agree to use the ignore feature, the unruly behavior won't be seen, and will no longer be fun. I remember my mom telling me as a child to ignore kids being being mean or teasing me, and they won't have fun anymore if they didn't get a reaction from me.

I'm posting this as a reminder to myself as well...I let things get to me so bad yesterday that I had an anxiety attack, and all I needed to use was the ignore feature.....

Using self-care is a quick fix and I know I need to remember to use it myself.

To the teens....I am so sorry that you are feeling left out. It saddens me that several of you who have good conversations with adults are feeling left out of conversation. I don't see anything wrong with popping in to the 21+ room and asking your friends to move to a different room. I moved yesterday with a member who couldn't stay and it worked out fine.

I hope after a good period of adjustment, things will be ok.