What is going on here?

I agree, threads like this are important as long as everybody is respectful of one another's point of view and listens as much as they speak. It's amazing what can be accomplished when we stop thinking we know what's 'right' and open our minds and hearts to considering that we may not know... (I'm not saying anyone has been disrespectful in this thread or hasn't kept an open mind.)

Saying or alluding to the fact that you're going to 'end it all' either in the forums or chat will lead to the inevitable PM to that person with the possibility of further action. As Dexter has said, discussing suicidal thoughts in the past or the like isn't specifically prohibited and can actually be quite helpful. But the "I'm leaving life, goodbye!" posts (or chats in the chatroom) are not tolerated here. Once one of the mods or myselfs is PM'ed about such a post or chat room conversation, we're going to take action in most cases.

As others have said, actively being suicidal and posting about it is probably not the best way to get help. That's why suicidal posts aren't allowed. Suicide is such a serious issue that we believe -- firmly -- that only a real-life professional or suicide hotline is the way to get help. Relying on the support and care of the community is simply not appropriate.

I am heartened to read this thread, because it really has given a lot of people a chance to discuss these issues in a safe and respectful way. I've enjoyed it and hope it continues!

Best,
DocJohn

I wanted to publicly apologize to septembermorn; as I posted publicly...I felt that the conversation got a little out of hand. I speak so passionately about my beliefs, that I think I offend without meaning to. As I am usually a very calm and thoughtful person, I feel bad when one takes offence at something I have said. If I have offended, I sincerely apologize.
Peace,
Jon

Maybe the discussion is good. But I felt like it got a bit out of hand for while, Doc. I felt like we were getting contentious on here and I was afraid.

I think it's safe again, now, though.

-comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable-

I'm very passionate about my beliefs, too, Jon. I haven't quite mastered the art of being passionate and considerate at the same time. I'm sorry I offended you.



<font color=blue>"Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" --Shakespeare</font color=blue>

John, thank you for allowing this thread to continue. I firmly believe that these things need to be brought out to the sunshine once in a while.




<font color=blue>"Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" --Shakespeare</font color=blue>

I will add my fuzzy 2 cents ... I agree with that. Thanks John!

Well kris< i accept your hugs greatfully. As for kiddo, I have posted this but the story is our best friends child for her whole life, my youngest child's best friend had a kidney transplant a year ago due to a genetic kidney disease. Shen has been ill her whole life. She was diagnosed with lymphoma about two weeks ago. The kidney team wanted to treat one way but when she had another endoscopy it showed she has massive growth within two weeks in her entire esphogus. My daughter was home from her camp counseling job for a few hours last night and called kiddo who was okay at the time. Bored, sick of hospital. She had her first chemo last night and I ever so briefly spoke with mom who told me she was very ill today but not vomitting. Parents are in such crisis and I am trying to cope with work along with these intense feelings. They are overwhelmed with phone calls and I am trying to get a phone tree so they make one call. My daughter says that kiddo will be okay. She is trying to be positive. Both kids are almost 17. I love this kid like my own and her parents are the closest people in the world to me. Tonight my husband says that maybe we should be prepared for death. Well, he is right but I didn't want him to say that. Though dad and I have had this discussion. He does not want her to suffer more above all else. We lost a child 5 years ago so.... Anyway, thanks for giving me the chance to talk about it. It sucks so bad and many people here have been loving and supportive. In fact one was sending her a gift she would enjoy.

Hugs back at ya Kris

You are in my thoughts and prayers ((((((((((((((((wisewoman))))))))))))))))

Thanks fuz, btw did you know that in the late 60s and 70's we called the police "the fuz" He he. Thanks for the hufs, means a lot as I am trying to not shut down with all of this.

i knew about the cops being call the "fuz". but why are they called that anyway? lol i was born in the 80s

-comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable-