[allautumn]

So I think I might have offended some people here. I was away from the site for a while because I felt that I wasn't really contributing in a positive way, and that other times I went overboard or said things without really thinking them through. So this is an appology, to anyone I made uncomfortable or said something insensitive to last month. I'm not used to talking in a place where there are rules about what you can and can't discuss, and sometimes I can be pretty dense as to what is appropriate. Sorry guys.
I also want to thank all of you. Before I found this site there was no place to put all of this stuff. I still haven't gone back to my counselor or called my doctor. A lot of the time I feel ok, and then I think I don't need help after all. Then when I really need it there's no one there. In between, it's been really good to have this place to turn to and talk with people who know where I'm coming from. So thank you all.
And again, sorry if I stepped on any toes. I'll try to adhere to the "No god or politics" stuff better from now on, and keep my opinions to my self. If anyone ever has a problem with something I've said, PLEASE PM me and let me know. I'm always wondering if I've said or done something wrong, so it will really help me work on my social skills here if you tell me, and give me a chance to appologize.
Thank you.

im new so i havent seen your posts, but welcome back. i know how helpful it is to come here and read things about other peoples experiences and to vent. i have noticed very quickly that this forum is a lot like a psych hospital in that it has all these little toes you have to watch out for. people are more sensitive here and bruise easily. but just so you know, i am all ears. i enjoy a spicy conversation.

[Rebound]

Well, I can't say I have ever read anything you would need to apologize for, but then, as with cotton, I haven't been around all that long. I understand the rules regarding religion and politics are in place for a reason, but I think it is a shame to be unable to discuss them in a reasoned, logical fashion, rather than as a personal attack on one's beliefs. I have very strong beliefs and I don't mind one bit having them challenged. I figure either I or the person I am talking to may learn something from the exchange, provided reason and logic are integral to the discussion. But I guess many are resistant to reason (not here, specificly, but in general) or half the american public wouldn't still think Bin Ladin and Hussein worked together. I don't mean to offend anyone. So I hope these comments will be understood to be strictly my opinion and not intended as criticism to anyone here, particularly DocJohn. It's just that I have always felt able to freely argue about my beliefs and perceptions without fear. If you don't agree with those beliefs, I would like to hear your reasons. I may even change them if your argument is persuasive enough. It's my experience that those who cannot do so without rancour have accepted the beliefs of others (parents, religious leaders, etc.), without reason or understanding, and so get defensive due to being unable to defend them.

Please understand that I mean no offense. It's just my opinion. Again, I apologize if anyone is hurt by my remarks but I felt they needed to be said.

[Myzen]

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Before I found this site there was no place to put all of this stuff. I still haven't gone back to my counselor or called my doctor. A lot of the time I feel ok, and then I think I don't need help after all. Then when I really need it there's no one there. In between, it's been really good to have this place to turn to and talk with people who know where I'm coming from. So thank you all.

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Hi allautumn,

I remember you but I don't remember any problems. You make a good point about the helpfulness of discussion boards. I used to go to a support board (not this one) when I felt low and it helped. Now I am trying to stick around here and be helpful if I can, even for a couple of posts in the week. I think that the continuity might be a good thing.

Hope to read more of your posts,

Good thoughts, Myzen

Rebound...I've asked about a political board and a relgious board....perhaps you'd like to join in by asking Doc John or a moderator for assistance..pat

I think that even if you aren't contributing and you are learning something to help yourself....that is a plus....so, try staying around and I bet you'll find your self more comfortable soon. pat

[Isolated_Guy]

Allautumn, I only joined yesterday so I don't know what you refer to but after reading your post here and then your Bio, I'll bet I'm pretty much on the same page. Having opinions on issues that differ from the norm is frustrating, I know. I'm letting you know you're not alone. In anther forum, I too expressed my unpopular opinion and later came to see how it rubbed people the wrong way and I hope I don't get myself into that position again. We still have the right to be ourselves. Rebound, your example of those "resistant to reason" is well taken and I agree completely.

[kimmydawn]

allautumn,

i remember you...i remember your posts as good. nothing every stood out to me to the contrary. i'm glad you're back and hope to hear from you more soon!

be safe,

kd

[Isolated_Guy]

Pat, I also think a political board would be good. For me, it's tempting to bring it into the discussion when it seems fit but I don't want to cross over the line and break any rules by accident.

[Malady156]

AllAutumn ... I'm sending you a PM ... don't worry it's a friendly one.

[(JD)]

gee I sure don't recall any bad postings from you... but actually, once a person begins posting nothing but good stuff... I forget any negative ones from the past. My mind can't contain all that anyway!

About the religion and politics... we have had a rare thread with this... either it's about politics or religion itsef and not my faith is better than your faith... and with everyone working to keep it that way, it was ok. We have so many active members now with such varying opinions and disorders that sometimes prevent them from personal attacks, I wonder if we could do that again. We can always discuss it in a chat, if everyone agrees, and stop when someone changes their mind or new member enters chat... or those who wish to continue can make their own chat room, so you CAN vent it if you wish, and that's a good thing.

Also, we can post our own personal reliance upon a higher power, say God bless you to another we know also has faith and appreciates it.. We can post how a political system actually works... but not so much what we think. Obviously we are all affected by some politics because we are in the "mental health system."

I'm sorry you felt the need to apologize, but accept it since that will help you.
It is good to see you posting again.... wb!

[allautumn]

Thanks for all your replies!
I think a political or spiritual/religious board might be a good idea too. I understand how people could get easily offended on these two topics, as they both sort of reflect our deepest personal beliefs, so it's complicated for people to remain neutral... but maybe it's worth a shot here?