Science of Morality, Anyone?

It's not religion that has led to constant wars. It's the extremist religious person that has misinterpreted or twisted to their own gains what their faith book says.

If you check out almost any religion, in it's original state, you'll see that most teach love, forgiveness and peace.

But there's more beyond the blue Pacific! Do we ignore that?

You know, like Lenny said, this is a community for support to people with mental illnesses. Hardly a fertile ground for something so ambitious. Lewis and Clark didn't get up one morning and say "Let's get up and go find the Pacific Ocean today!" They first had to be physically and mentally prepared for such a journey. Most of us have a "Lewis and Clark Expedition" going on in our own private lives that we're trying to prepare for!

There are a few learned people here that like to have intelligent, knowledgeable discussions. Why don't you start a Social Group of your own where the conversations aren't moderated as tightly as they are on the public board and where religion and politics are not a taboo subject. You can talk "moral science" to your heart's content and on this board, be supportive and receive support for mentall illness.

My suggestion is that if a continued discussion is desired that you can begin a social group for this purpose. That will allow some discussion of the religious element of the core of American culture, without upsetting anyone on the boards.

But when people put it into practice they get it wrong, how many???????......

The same would happen with "moral science", don't you think?

Science of Morality was the question i think .Plus why do humans treat one another so terribly?
We are a group of humans here at pc . We are a support group. Granted at times if you read it may look like we are
all split off into groups.
But. If one seems in trouble here at pc we are all joined together. The support is wonderful here.

In one group as large as here or the world will everyone agree. Here thou at pc ........the ability to work it out is amazing.
I can say from my point of view everytime I have had a issue or my son as I bring him up alot. The response of help here at
pc is amazing . The human support is like no other.
I have seen ppl go threw so much here and most of the board jumps into help. Its a great support system here.
What it means to be human? I think we show that here. The caring , the kindness, the love that is shown is truly something.
I have seen here ....when one crys. many feel it.
Our empathy for each other is great here.I think most here can "put oneself into another's shoes" and feel the pain.
Most times the moral grammer is very correct. I am honored to be part of this group of very human ppl. A support group. A group of friends
and loved ones.
Morality? code of conduct here is pretty amazing for such a large group.
I see lots of respect for each other here at pc. And true caring and love here.....
I did not take this as the world as a whole as you can read. I took it as us (((PC)))))
a very large group of ppl, who are forsure human. with lots of great spirit. heart, soul, true life happenings we all share.
Here at pc (((((((everyone matters))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
I may have got alittle of topic sorta ........
Muffy

(((((Muff))))) gets to the heart of things.

Good question! There is something about people having religion behind them that stops them from asking themselves if they've interpreted everything correctly though. Don't get me wrong, I think that there is a lot of great religious teachings. My problem is just with the passion that people put into it when what they are doing is harmful to others (when it is harmful to others. When it is good I have no problems! Good meaning that it isn't harming others). I guess I just come across too many people like this..........

again i think you are referring to the religiously zealous.. religion is intended as a method of healing and treating, serving and providing for the masses non-politically.. all religions involve a form of ethics (healthy or not) .. what is important IMHO is to consider what is healthy for the body.. if it defiles the body, it defiles the mind, if it defiles the mind, it will defile society.. toxins (chemically related and emotionally produced) are measurable and detectable..

we can learn morality as a generality and we will receive the effect of its health or ill health... good thoughts all

Actually I'm not. I see so few people who speak religion whose actions speak religion too. I know that there are people out there whose actions match their words and religion. I just see so many whose do not match. They do good works with their church and then come back into their lives and it doesn't carry over.

I agree. It doesn't do much good for anybody when people talk religion and fail to live what they profess to believe. Sometimes it can be difficult to bring action into line with belief though. Not an excuse, but a challenge.

Someone is IMNSHO

It appears to me that this argument is strictly posed to impeach those of a religious bent. Most of those who are of strong faith do live out their faith in their daily lives, without confrontations. These are the people one might not even realize how strong their faith in God is, because one doesn't suspect them and thus doesn't misjudge them for their acts of kindnesses.

To judge an entire population based upon the extremes is less than admirable.

There is no scientific basis for supposing that morality is an evolutionary product. One must have a foundation for right and wrong before any concept of morality can be formed. With evolution, it is based by faith on the idea of survival of the fittest and has nothing to do with getting along. For that, it's all about eating your enemy.

Please let's not begin bashing those of faith just because it's Christmas time again. This is a mental health support site, and that includes support for those who do have faith and rely upon it to get them through the stressful holidays.

I appreciate everyone's feedback on this discussion. I don't see how much further the conversation can go while staying within the guidelines, so I'll be closing it at this point.

As always, said with thanks and respect,

KD