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#101
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Oh and yes, going outside is a no no. Some hospitals have a garden area on the same floor but the one I'm made go to doesn't as it's on the second floor. If you have no leave (which applies to me the majority of the time) it means you can't leave the unit. Prisoners have more time outside for fresh air and exercise, ridiculous so it is.
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Lol I like the geese one, seriously in the uk our psych wards were geeseless!
I don't know the rules in the U.S. but if the police insist on driving you back to the hospital, go with them. It's better to go in voluntary than be sectioned ![]()
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#103
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If the police are escorting you to the hospital there is nothing voluntary about it. It's an Automatic three day hold. And drs typically extend to fourteen days after that.
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#104
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This is true, BUT don't resist as you will end up going either way and being dragged out of your house in handcuffs is not comfortable.
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#105
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Yea two sprained fingers later I know this, lol. But even if you don't resist they'll still cuff you. Procedure and all. Because they're assholes.
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#106
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Really? That's terrible, over here it's only if you resist. They then bring you to the station and call a doctor. They can't put you in a cell though but if they've cuffed you, you'll stay cuffed.
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#107
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If you go in their car you have to be cuffed. If they're nice they'll do it loosely and link two pairs together but if they're jerks they'll do it as tight as possible to hurt you. Last time I didn't open my legs wide enough to be searched so they bent my fingers backwards till they popped- mind you I wasn't moving an inch just standing against the car. I'm filing a complaint for that I still have not regained all feeling in one of my fingers and the other hand has pins and needles. And they were laughing while they did it about how glad they are they just finished that course on how to handle the mentally Ill. See how happy they are with the course on how the mentally I'll hire lawyers to sue them for inappropriate force.
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#108
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Also they don't take us to the station we go direct to the nearest psych ward.
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#109
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Yes it's a 72 hour assessment but legally they cannot make you stay unless you are sectioned under the mental health act. This I'm sure is still possible in the ward but not likely unless you are deemed a danger to others. As soon as the police left the hospital I asked the doctor if I could leave. They didn't strictly discharge me but they did let me go to stay with my boyfriend and I only had to attend 3 meetings weekly with the treatment team. I have found that even if you are suicidal it's unlikely you will be sectioned, there simply isn't the bed space.
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Verity what country are you in? That's not how it typically works in the us. The police 72 hour hold is typically written in stone (a dr CAN revoke it if they choose, but they almost never do-only ever happened to me once where the doc canceled my hold). But once the cops put you on a hold you're not going anywhere certainly not to a boyfriends house wo dr approval but they do occasionally release to an adult willing to take responsibility for your welfare as long as you say you won't try to kill yourself, but that too is rare.
If there's no bed they will hold you indefinitely in the eR or psych eR like cattle til one opens up. Last edited by InRealLife45; Aug 05, 2014 at 06:34 PM. Reason: update |
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1. Keep your distance from other patients and staff. Don't get involved with them.
2. Don't discuss your diagnosis with fellow patients. Often patients will discuss and compare diagnoses. There is a psych patient hierarchy based on diagnosis. 3. If you state you are feeling depressed but are socializing with patients don't expect the staff to believe you. 4. Sometimes patients will discuss self-injury and teach others how. Ignore it. You are there to get better, not to create more problems for yourself. 5. Don't bring anything of value to the hospital. Patients, including staff, can have quick hands. 6. Get a private room if you can. |
#112
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My roommate slit her wrists in the bathroom. I had the privilege of walking in while she was doing it. I immediately intervened and pulled the emergency call bell. We fought over the sharp in her hand and somehow I managed to grab it without injuring her and myself. She then fell forward onto me and started crying. I had no idea what to do. Then two nurses entered and yelled at me because I intervened and was full of blood. After that I was shaking and walked right off the unit when I wasn't supposed to. I was upset and numb all afternoon. It was weird. After that I distanced myself from my roommate. It was too much. During my first admission a man and a woman tried to jump off the five story parking garage. They escaped from the unit. Security was called by people standing outside the Emergency Department entrance. Of course we all heard about it. This incident angered a lot of the patients. If one is going to commit suicide you would think they would just leave and go somewhere discreet where no one can intervene. I have also noticed competition ODs and self-injury in the hospital. It was the most disturbing thing about being in the psych unit. Whenever it happened it upset me even if I did not know the patient who did it. It disrupted the entire unit. The staff tended to catch on really quick and would immediately discharge the patients who behaved like this. Incidents like this really frustrate me. I know three people who have committed suicide. Two of those people were childhood friends. Suicide threats scare the hell out of me. |
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#113
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They say that they did call but the T agreed you should be there when in fact they never called. So I called her and she called them, the doc was embarrassed I caught him outright lying and refused to let me go, he accually abused his power by keeping me an extra day though he admitted I did not need to be there! He wanted to teach me a lesson. He did, he taught me that you don't go to hospitals no matter how bad it gets. They just hand out medications and lie.
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#114
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when i was committed theyy handcuffed me and put cuffs on my ankles.then on the way to the ER the cop tried to have a casual convo with me. i kept quiet
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Wow! That's awful. Yea they don't really care what our therapists think at all unless they're psychiatrists. It's like they think theyre better bc they have an md. But weekends DO count towards a hold. If they kept you longer and said they didn't count you're right they're just being assholes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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#116
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On your ankles???? What for? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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![]() edit: maybe my T told them i might try to run away. bc i ran away from T before when he was trying to get me to go inpatient
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Yes definitely. When I was inpatient in May there were three girls on the same ward who were always acting up and finding ways to SI/escape etc and then would all just casually sit around the table at dinner discussing what they had done that day and compare notes. It triggered me a lot and I stayed in my room the whole time apart from mealtimes so I could avoid overhearing them as much as possible.
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#119
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#120
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I'm in the uk, I must admit the dr did let me go as my boyfriends mother was willing to look after me
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My general advice would be this; the health workers are not your friends, they are being paid to respond skillfully to your needs/problems. I feel it doesn't hurt to remember this. I feel it's also inadvisable to get too chummy with fellow patients - each of whom are undergoing their own very personal and difficult recovery. If you place that sort of expectation on yourself and someone else in that position there's a very good chance it won't end well. Lastly i would say that if you're voluntary and you've had the opportunity to chose the appropriate hospital then don't lose sight of your goals. It's not a hotel and good money is being paid for you to get better. So make the most of such a chance. It won't necessarily be available to you again. And one very important final point - be very specific in who you open up to and how much you tell them, great caution needs to be exercised so that your story doesn't get twisted and you create an even harder time for yourself. Remember the transience, recall your motivation for going and if you're going to trust anyone, be it yourself first and foremost.
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#122
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what a great list. thanks for sharing
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#123
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Okay, I wanted to write this to thank whoever wrote the above. I actually googled how to survive a psych ward while I was in one. The info given was extremely accurate and helped me survive. Sadly when I went to get help for myself in an ER, the psychiatrist on duty heard the word "suicide" as I explained the truth, that I had suicide ideation and he had me committed to a terrible inner city hospital in Baltimore.
University of Maryland in Baltimore psych ward aka "11 west" is absolutely terrible. I am not sure what the laws are for health standards and such, but the place was not clean, the food was disgusting, the nursing staff and techs were unbelievably unprofessional. Sorry for the bad review but I was not even able to get the help I need for my depression (just "severe depression") and anxiety as I faked my way through each day with a smile on face to get out of there. I did not feel safe being in a ward with people who had AIDS, put their own feces in their hair (yes, this actually happened) and with 2 other patients out of the total 14 that were transferred from JAIL. These people were inner city thugs/criminals with extremely sad mental disorders that freaked me out and caused me to have even more anxiety and fear for my life. Now, I am back to where I started, in the same place, with PTSD from that place! Just remember to keep your head up if you are stuck in a psych ward. What this forum suggested seriously kept me sane! Thank you Original poster!! |
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#124
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About two weeks ago I couldn't afford to go to UNI so I admitted myself to Utah Valley Psych ward, which was pure hell!! No free will and it was a terrible environment. You couldn't even a chapstick and had to knock on a door every time you wanted a cup of water. It was hell, you have no free will, or respectful staff workers, you just have to submit to everything they want you to do. And of course you can't even have a fresh air break. At UNI I could sign myself out and walk around outside the hospital and the staff was awesome, groups were so beneficial and the facility was so clean, you don't have a room mate and have a tempur pedic bed...it's the best and most beneficial place to go if I get tempted with suicide! Best of luck! |
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As I have not discussed my issues with other patients and at most would just listen or withdraw, never had this problem. The self harm side was very private.
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