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Old Aug 16, 2014, 07:21 PM
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Okay, I wanted to write this to thank whoever wrote the above. I actually googled how to survive a psych ward while I was in one. The info given was extremely accurate and helped me survive. Sadly when I went to get help for myself in an ER, the psychiatrist on duty heard the word "suicide" as I explained the truth, that I had suicide ideation and he had me committed to a terrible inner city hospital in Baltimore.

University of Maryland in Baltimore psych ward aka "11 west" is absolutely terrible. I am not sure what the laws are for health standards and such, but the place was not clean, the food was disgusting, the nursing staff and techs were unbelievably unprofessional. Sorry for the bad review but I was not even able to get the help I need for my depression (just "severe depression") and anxiety as I faked my way through each day with a smile on face to get out of there.

I did not feel safe being in a ward with people who had AIDS, put their own feces in their hair (yes, this actually happened) and with 2 other patients out of the total 14 that were transferred from JAIL. These people were inner city thugs/criminals with extremely sad mental disorders that freaked me out and caused me to have even more anxiety and fear for my life. Now, I am back to where I started, in the same place, with PTSD from that place!

Just remember to keep your head up if you are stuck in a psych ward. What this forum suggested seriously kept me sane! Thank you Original poster!!
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Old Aug 16, 2014, 08:14 PM
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Yes definitely. When I was inpatient in May there were three girls on the same ward who were always acting up and finding ways to SI/escape etc and then would all just casually sit around the table at dinner discussing what they had done that day and compare notes. It triggered me a lot and I stayed in my room the whole time apart from mealtimes so I could avoid overhearing them as much as possible.
They must have thought they were on a holiday. The hospital was obviously reinforcing all those unhealthy ways of coping.

Self-injury was ubiquitous on the adolescent psychiatric ward I was on. It was awful. My stay in that unit was the most traumatic of all my hospitalizations.

I hope you don't have to go through that again.
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Old Aug 16, 2014, 09:06 PM
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The only way to get respect on a psych ward is to act pleasant and that's the reason why people end up in a psych ward: because being pleasant is completely foreign and unreachable.

I still can not get over the fact that people actually try to make friends while on a psych ward. It's not social hour. The eight or so times I admitted myself I was at my most confused and lowest point of my life and looking for direction. The furthest thing from my mind was making pals with someone. And I constantly fantasize about ways to get back at nurses, psych techs, Resident Psychiatrists who treated me worse than a dog while I was a patient over 20 years ago. I did nothing to deserve those things.

During one of my stays the first night I waited in the med line and heard some girl behind me talking about how cold I was. Well, yeah! I really don't know who I am at this particular moment in my life. I'm not exactly connected to myself and I didn't come here to spread joy (nor do I know what joy means)! The nerve of some people.
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Oh my I think my hospital is a bit light weight and I am there much too often but they really treat ppl the patients there with respect and there are never any lines for meds. Definitely don't take anything with strings unless you want them cut out or pulled out for you to use. Nothing with alcohol in it like hair products and mouth wash. You don't need makeup no one cares how you look, and at least our scrubs in my hospital are made of cloth and come in many sizes for all the ppl there. If you take your own clothes there is usually a laundry area and they will supply soap for you. It is amazing to me how many ppl trade phone numbers although I always seem to hook up with a group of card players we don't go further than that but do become a support for each other. One day i was delusional and 2 of my friends went to the nurse and told her because they were worried, so you do develop a caring for a small group but it is how you handle it that matters. I was in PICU (psychiatric intensive care unit) for 5 days before i was moved to the main unit, in PICU you are too sick to think about friends or even other patients you sit next to ppl to eat but not much talk, but strangely you do gravitate to the same person on your side even in there.
Watch that room mate for sure I rarely have a room mate and have been lucky when I have or they are scared of me and don't mess in my stuff or mess with me, last time i was in , a couple of weeks ago there was a girl who kept standing over her roommate at night and looking at her. OMG i would have freaked too, they moved her to another room .
that's my limited info for inpatient stays, demand respect through your behavior don't' be a difficult patient, it helps.
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Having just gotten out.... I do believe that the psych ward reinforces 'action/reaction/punishment' behavior. Yes, I am one that SIs on the ward and escapes (I'm multiple personality - it comes with the territory). It doesn't make sense for the staff to take away ALL the miserable plastic forks and spoons off the ward for EVERYONE when I am the one hurting myself with a plastic knife that is just going to show up on someone else's tray while I am eating finger food and realizing that clothes are a privledge.
When I turn myself in and say "Please take that med cup with you, I don't want my alters to be tempted to turn it in to something to harm with" - I get put on finger food. WHY BE HONEST with them when they will punish me???!?
Then on the finger food menu, they bring me a sandwich, not of my choosing, in a plastic clamshell that has a center "hinge" in it that is far sharper than any damn plastic knife. I was so angry! My alters ripped it out and showed the only nurse I trusted there. She was angry too, and made a complaint. When I got another one, I didn't even bother.
The system is broken. "Trust us so we can keep you safe". NO - tell us anything and it WILL be used against you."
This last time, for example, I was there for med management -coming off a med that was causing aggression and homicidal thinking. So, I get put in a holding area "wait list for the ward" where "This is a calm ward and any signs of aggression will get you moved back to the main ER!!!" Wow, ok really? Here's an idea - let's take a Multiple/dissociative person, dealing with aggression, put her in this "calm ward" with really irritable nurses AND not give her her prescribed anti-anxiety meds. It was like creating a bad situation on purpose - of course I failed. And I didn't even SI. I did, however lock myself in the bathroom and got pushed back to the main Observation ER hold tank. I've never been so happy to see that scary room!
Yes, I've lost a few psych areas their forks and spoons (SORRY EVERYONE!). Not that that kept me safe - it just made everyone pissy.
I did love the original post in here - gave me a lot of good laughs and head nods.
I know to pack accordingly; no strings, nothing with alcohol. I do get to bring my stuffed animal - I do have 4 or 5 kid alters, it would be problematic if they took them from us. This time I was't even allowed to keep my toothpaste out - or toothbrush. It was crazy nuts restrictive on there. But I'm really good at behaving when 3 security guards show up! And hey, I did let them in to the bathroom finally when their own key wouldn't work! At least they know now that they had a problem! I mean it could have been a horrible situation, with someone attempting sui in there and them not getting in. They should have rewarded me
I was even given the wrong diagnosis on discharge. "Depression/Suicial Ideation". NOPE. Better than "Agressive Homicidal Ideation", i suppose - at least that won't be on my record, but still the real reason for being there was Med Management. Sheesh.
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I haven't been in a psychiatric ward in years, but I once wrote this in a journal and everytime I go back to read it, it makes me laugh. I hope that it finds you the same way.

Rule #1- Sign yourself in. If the man in the white coat threatens a court case you have 3/100 chance of winning. In these, even your own defender takes the other side. Unless of course you're sane. But that's nobody...

Rule # 2- Know about psychiatric illnesses- One minute you and your friend are doing crosswords together, talking about how great it would be to piss without permission and the next she starts talking in a satanic voice and inscribing her skin with a staple from the couch. Don't be alarmed, retrieve staff. DO NOT TOUCH OR TALK TO ANYONE WITH A SHARP OR LARGE BLUNT OBJECT NEAR THEM. Even if you "know them".

Rule # 3- Don't be scared. Seriously, don't show fear, they're like a swarm of bees. kidding. The likelihood of the above person hurting you, is slim to none. The likelihood of getting hurt by another patient at all is slim to none. Most dangerous or violent psychiatric patients are housed in state psych wards, on special units. You are more likely to be harmed by staff. Which goes to rule # 4.

Rule #4- Avoid getting restrained- Pick a hospital who doesn't participate in 4 point restraints. (or 5 or 6 point), the practice of using restraints has dwindled a lot. The likelihood that this would happen is small. However along with physical damage (broken bones, etc) It can also cause psychological trauma. The medications they administer are known to cause permanent damage in some people.

Rule # 5- It may taste decent, but that's not chicken. - Don't assume because they're a hospital they'll give you healthy food. Psychiatric facilities, especially could care less. Despite evidence that a healthy, balanced diets helps improve mood. You could insist on a healthy diet, ask your family to bring you in meals in advance or pick and choose out of what's there.

Rule # 6- Watch yo' back- Be smart, if your roommate starts talking to herself, saying things like "NO I won't kill my roommate, she's nice to me, go away!" You might not want to take a sleeping pill that knocks you out. You should probably inform staff. This is not tattling. She is suffering from effects of a mental illness and they may not even be aware of the risk she may be to others.

Rule #7- Look for support- While you're in there why not grab a few people and make supports out of them? In or out of the hospital? I've met some of the most well meaning, supportive friends in a hospital. Even if we don't talk everyday, I know that they are there.

Rule # 8- You're not leaving in three days- Upon admission you may be told you will be going in for a "a few days". Only to find out you are freed 2 weeks later, pasty and atrophied. "We'll see about Monday" will turn into Wednesday and Friday and next Monday. When you stop asking, they'll tell you. They all sit around a table and discuss things like "Surely when a patient wants to get out this bad, it means they're still ill. It's absolutely amazing in here and these raccoon nuggets are the best". If you push enough, asking him in the hallway, through the nurses station door and while he's eating lunch, causing a psychiatrist to pull out his own hair, you may win. Or you may have to result to rule # 1.

Rule # 9- Don't get too up close and personal with the furniture- I have seen too many people leak their bladders on them. And by leak I mean water fall. So don't fall asleep there and let your tongue fall out of your mouth.

Rule # 10- Groups repeat. Despite Rule #8, they think it's funny or amusing to repeat groups every 3 days to make you suffer. In cause of this, do crafts. Even the worst psych wards have craft supplies. Even if it's just non toxic glue and butchered magazines. Be creative! ( no there's no scissors. Ripping paper is a unique skill I have in light of this).

Rule # 11- Don't Run away- Having a bright yellow tag on your wrist marking you an "elopement risk" makes everyone cautious of you, everywhere. Don't be surprised if while taking a poo a staff member of the opposite gender comes to swing open the door to make sure you haven't burrowed down the drain in your shower.

Rule # 12- Don't look your psychiatrists resident in the eye- He's insecure and you could challenge him, but he has control of your every function right now. From what medications you take, to whether you get to eat with a fork at dinner. Act like he's the boss and if you think he screwed up, tell the actual boss.

Rule # 13- Stand up for your rights- If a woman with thick eyeliner and furrowed brows tells you to she's going to call the doctor at midnight to have you committed, because you're asking for some tissues and waking everyone up. Tell her nicely and pleasantly you happen to be an educated human being, that knows no doctor in his right mind would commit someone for that and she should stop trying to manipulate you.

Rule # 14- Fight = Flight. If you live in a city and are entering an inner city psych ward, you're bound to come across at least 15 fights in your "3 day stay". Otherwise it's not likely. There's higher crimes in inner cities, so there will be higher prevalence of fights, people trying to pass you meth, and the occasional man running naked down the hallway covered in Vaseline, so he slips out of the guards grip. Don't break up a fight in a psych ward even in they're women who weigh 100 lbs and are 4 foot 8. They're eating raccoon, they haven't had cigarettes, and the meth is fake.

Rule # 15- What to bring- Nothing you thought you could. No strings, jewelery, conditioner, perfume, make up, sharp objects, ipods, razors, stuffed animals, your own pillows, your new xacto knife kit, any mirrors, cell phones, credit cards, iguanas, (keeps listing things for 6 hours) Some psychiatric wards only allow you to wear scrubs. Wait no. "Scrubs". Paper blue things that make every other part of you "breezy". "Here's some paper clothes, you're things are in a locked safe, now lets find out why you want to kill yourself." Some places let you have everything, even cell phones. And then one day some one eats deodorant, trying to get drunk and it's all over... back to paper scrubs... some people try to sneak stuff in. DON'T DO THIS. When you get caught, you ruin it for every goodly, honest person out there!

Rule # 16- Don't pet the geese- Although this may not apply to most of you, especially those of you stuck in the city, but don't pet the geese. I have been too many places that had geese and many patients who find it necessary to try and pet the geese. Geese who live and breed on psychiatric ward territory know this. And they have special powers that allow them to beat the crap out of any ill prepared person that nears them. I think it goes with people being manic. It's how I know someone is manic. They think they can pet geese. Even when they hiss at them. Even when someone says "Joe I wouldn't do that". But no Joe has a bit of irrational thinking, related to grandiose. But I am here to tell you if you are Manic, that goose does NOT want you to pet it. Goose Floggings 101 is a course in psychiatric nursing. I tell the truth.

Does anyone have any to add?
I've been to psych wards about a dozen times, and I've been to three different ones, and they're not that bad of places to be in. My advice is learn from the experience, and make the best of it, it doesn't have to be a negative experience. One last thing, learn from the other patients since they've been through similar experiences.
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 12:01 AM
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it's not REALLY Racoon.... right? My stomach hasn't been right since I ate the "chicken" burger.
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Found this online from a psych nurse.

You know you're a psych nurse when.................

You protect your lighter and black biro like the crown jewels.......

You have diagnosed all your friends with some kind of personality disorder......

You have become incapable of being shocked........

You can remember the date and dose of all your patients depots but can't remember your friends birthdays........

Handover starts to resemble a stand up comedy act.....

You can judge your client's mental state by their clothes........esp the length of their skirt!

Your friends think you can diagnose any kind of medical problem and fix it! Then are amazed when you tell them you dont know whats wrong with them...........Ditto to any kind of money problem of benefit advice!

You get nervous if one of your knives/forks goes missing.....the fact that your at home doesnt even cross your mind..........

5 and 2 are magic numbers........

When someone asks you what you do for a living you brace yourself as this is gonna be a loooonnnnnggggggg conversation.....

You discover that your sense of humour is in fact twisted and somewhat dark compared to your friends....

Level 4 special = catch up on gossip mag time

No management problem = didnt come out of his room

A Depot is not a place buses are kept......

The Q word is banned and you swear you'll swing for the first person to use it..........

You no longer become offended when someone swears at you......

You realise that your daily alcohol consumption is higher than your patient who is in for detox.......

When coffee is to you, what petrol is to a car!

You start to believe that doctors open the BNF and throw a dart at it in order to decide what to prescribe........

Your drug trolley has more drugs to combat side effects than drugs to combat psychosis...........

You have had to repeat in your head "do not laugh....do not laugh...do not laugh" while talking to a patient.....

You spend most of your shift standing at the front door surrounded by shivering patients having a smoke.......

The word's "sorry.... what?!!?" come out of your mouth at least once a shift.....

Your patients have more money than you and they dont work!

You discover the importance of being best friends with the person who does the off duty.........

sometimes being cheeky to your patients can therapeutic.......

You see the drug rep coming and get excited at the prospect of a new pen!...........

You have seen every episode of Jeremy Kyle and read every TV mag on the market.....

Being an escort takes on a whole new meaning.........

You assess anyone who has a conversation with you and reflect back what they have said.....

you reach for your belt in search of your house keys...

Meeting a patient in a bar is your worst nightmare.........
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Best. Thread. Ever.

I needed the laugh tonight. Hahahahaha!

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Rule # 8- You're not leaving in three days- Upon admission you may be told you will be going in for a "a few days". Only to find out you are freed 2 weeks later, pasty and atrophied. "We'll see about Monday" will turn into Wednesday and Friday and next Monday. When you stop asking, they'll tell you. They all sit around a table and discuss things like "Surely when a patient wants to get out this bad, it means they're still ill. It's absolutely amazing in here and these raccoon nuggets are the best". If you push enough, asking him in the hallway, through the nurses station door and while he's eating lunch, causing a psychiatrist to pull out his own hair, you may win. Or you may have to result to rule # 1.
This is so ****ing true and this was the most frustrating thing to me about the whole damn experience.
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On discharge day, do not volunteer to let other patients get discharged ahead of you..

Likely they won't get to you until after 5pm. The person with the key to the safe goes home at 5pm. You will wind up staying another night just to get your valuables out of their steenkin' safe.
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For laughs, try this:

At night, set your door ajar. Gingerly place a small paper cup of confetti on top of your door so it will fall (harmlessly) on staff when they open the door.

Giggle yourself silly waiting for them to make their fifteen minute checks.
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For laughs, try this:

At night, set your door ajar. Gingerly place a small paper cup of confetti on top of your door so it will fall (harmlessly) on staff when they open the door.

Giggle yourself silly waiting for them to make their fifteen minute checks.
Have a pleasant stay in the quiet room...
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Have a pleasant stay in the quiet room...
Lol, my roommate and I did this...once...and no quiet room.
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That's funny! Likely end up in isolation, but worth it.

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At night, set your door ajar. Gingerly place a small paper cup of confetti on top of your door so it will fall (harmlessly) on staff when they open the door.

Giggle yourself silly waiting for them to make their fifteen minute checks.
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Yeah - nooooo joke. I spent 17 days trying to get out after day one!

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Best. Thread. Ever.

I needed the laugh tonight. Hahahahaha!

"Rule # 8- You're not leaving in three days- Upon admission you may be told you will be going in for a "a few days". Only to find out you are freed 2 weeks later, pasty and atrophied. "We'll see about Monday" will turn into Wednesday and Friday and next Monday. When you stop asking, they'll tell you. They all sit around a table and discuss things like "Surely when a patient wants to get out this bad, it means they're still ill. It's absolutely amazing in here and these raccoon nuggets are the best". If you push enough, asking him in the hallway, through the nurses station door and while he's eating lunch, causing a psychiatrist to pull out his own hair, you may win. Or you may have to result to rule # 1. "

This is so ****ing true and this was the most frustrating thing to me about the whole damn experience.
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I finally did check in with Snickerdoodles nurse - she wanted to know how I was doing - and said she'd let everyone else who had been thinking about me know that I'm "fine". "You sound good". Oh good. Wait - there's people thinking about me? "Yeah, we heard about the incident and I came in the next day and you were gone, so I was worried about you - so were the others. They ask, you know." Huh. No i didn't know.
Best advice - find the best nurse and do everything in your power to stick with her/him - they're your best advocate, especially when trust is reciprocal (spelling?). Mine fought to have me on her schedule - makes her life easier knowing I won't cause trouble on her shift because I trust her and don't want her in trouble for covering my butt when I screw up.
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wow, that was awesome. I especially liked number five, too freaking funny. Actually, your post was really well thought out. I have been hospitalized like 33x's, a lot of that really rings true. It was a good laugh though. Thank you for that.
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Hey, just watch "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest". All you need to know.

Just kidding. The first place I stayed was just like that one in the movie and was the notorious "3 West" in my town. Later, they tore it down and built a psych unit like a resort hotel..a real healing place, I found. But some said it was too nice for patients because they would never be motivated to get well...bah!
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Wow thats great advice!
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I would never participate in group therapy. ugh.
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bring a comfy robe and slippers - it gets chilly and it makes it more comfortable walking around the unit in your scrubs or your own night clothes.
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another thing - if you ask, someone might bring something for you from the cafeteria late at night. I had never thought to ask until I saw another patient eating some French fries and a candy bar.
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Psych hospital cafeteria serves French fries and candy bars?
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