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Old Apr 15, 2009, 04:39 PM
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What is that?

And.. how to forgive? The people from long ago. (or if to forgive... why)
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Old Apr 15, 2009, 05:00 PM
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What is that?

And.. how to forgive? The people from long ago. (or if to forgive... why)

I think trust is having faith....in people. Not just knowing that they would never intentionally cause you harm, but believing it throughout your entire being. I myself know many things...but can not bring myself to believe them. (i.e. I am not worthless).

As for forgiveness....I don't know. I want to but I can't. There's no justice in this world for me. To forgive is to give up my only justice I have. People tell me that if I don't forgive, then I sacrifice myself. I've always been the sacrifice...I think that's why I was born.
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Old Apr 15, 2009, 09:27 PM
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there a re different levels of trust for me

some friends i trust to help with work probs - others I tell personal stuff to

I trust my T - but im still insecure

I dont trust myself anymore

I trust pc central and the people here

I think trust is allowing others to look in our windows and feeling that they will not turn away when they see the real you

Forgiveness - I dont think you have to forgive - its something you do if you can when you can if it feels right for you - forgiveness sort of equeals letting go to me - and yet there are a few people I cant forgive - myself included.
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 07:30 AM
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I think that it is all part of the journey. Neither one come immediately or arrive like flipping a switch. Both would come gradually while working through the issues......... Have you made any progress on either one (small steps)?
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Old Apr 17, 2009, 02:49 PM
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I'm working on trust myself. I feel I should be able to tell someone something without it being repeated to someone else. They won't look down on me no matter what I tell them. They will try to help me the best they can.

Forgiveness is for you. Not the person who hurt you. It brings peace to you. It a way of letting go of the hurt. You don't have to forgive, but you will hold that hurt in forever. That's why God forgives us, so we may live in peace. It doesn't mean you will have a relationship with that person again. Forgiviness is totally separate from repairing a relationship.
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Old Apr 17, 2009, 04:11 PM
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What is that?

And.. how to forgive? The people from long ago. (or if to forgive... why)

Oh (((fuzzybear))) you're making me think again. This would make a good blog topic for me hmmmm

You do trust. Maybe just not in many people? But even then, you trust.

You KNOW how some people will react...and you trust your judgment regarding them. You KNOW many things...you trust in them... if you speed through a red light while driving and a cop is sitting there... odds are he/she will pull you over...odds are either way of receiving a warning or a ticket... because that is the process... you do trust in that process.

You trust inanimate objects. You trust the chair to not collapse when you sit in it. You trust your pen to write (but might take a second one with you if your trust is confused about how much ink is in the pen.)

Begin with things you KNOW you can TRUST.
And allow for "Murphy's Law" because, in a way, we can trust in that too.


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Old Apr 17, 2009, 11:59 PM
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What is that?

And.. how to forgive? The people from long ago. (or if to forgive... why)
I have forgiven most things that have happen to me but 1...I don't think that'll ever happen...

If i ever figure it out, I'll let you know fuzzy one
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Old Apr 18, 2009, 12:51 AM
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Trust is there.

Forgiveness starts with self.

I don't have to forgive if I'm not comfortable with it.

I can give those to God.

Fuzzy is good people.
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Old Apr 20, 2009, 12:50 PM
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I read this regarding trust and thought I would share it.

"What's really important is that you trust yourself enough to take risks. It's always the possibility that you're going to be betrayed or hurt in some way. It's up to you to take the risk, and to learn to take that risk."

"I don't want you to trust me, trust yourself."

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Old Apr 20, 2009, 12:51 PM
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we dont trust many people only my husband and that is it
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Old Apr 20, 2009, 01:14 PM
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Trust: a dirty trick you play on yourself convincing yourself others really DO care.

A dirty trick that will bite you in the behind and betray you EVERY time and make you SORRY ... REALLY SORRY ....



Mal does not trust "trust". Not one little bit.
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Old Apr 20, 2009, 03:36 PM
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((((((((((((Fuzzy))))))))))))) Can't really answer that for you. I think it has to be an individual choice and a timing thing. Most people say you have to forgive to truely heal. Not sure I believe that....but then again...that could be part of why I'm not healed. Use your gut instincts, be cautious with who you are trusting, and wish and pray for the best. That is another thing with me...not opening up at all over the last....many many years. This place is definitely helping me to start doing that. I'm hoping this is the first real step of recovery for me on a long term basis. Sending you good vibes...hopes....and prayers
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Old May 20, 2009, 12:10 AM
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Old May 20, 2009, 09:34 PM
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(((((((((((((((((((((Fuzzy)))))))))))))))))))))

Life is not about the I-could-have-beens, but about the I-tried-to-do. You might not mind the failure but you could not imagine that you'd forgive yourself if you didn't try.

"Trust not yourself, but your defects to know. Make use of every friend and every foe."

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Old May 21, 2009, 09:17 AM
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I don't know what trust is Fuzzy. I barely trust myself. I like the expression "trust, but verify." I think that is reasonable.

Forgiveness for people who hurt us long ago... I forgive them as best I'm able so that I do not continue to let them hurt me TODAY. If I am still entangled in the past emotionally then I'm not living and enjoying my life today, as best I can. Just because you forgive does not mean you have to have a relationship with that person.
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But keep it to yourself please, don't tell me.
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