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The "paradox" is only a conflict between reality and your feeling of what reality "ought to be." -- Richard Feynman Major Depressive Disorder Anxiety Disorder with some paranoid delusions thrown in for fun. Recovering Alcoholic and Addict Possibly on low end of bi polar spectrum...trying to decide. Male, 50 Fetzima 80mg Lamictal 100mg Remeron 30mg for sleep Klonopin .5mg twice a day, cutting this back |
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I've said SEVERAL times how well my SSRI works. Oddly enough there is a person on here who just HAS to be negative about that.... says it's not a good med, it shouldn't work, it is too weak yadda yadda. Can't flipping win!
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Cognitive impairment is a risk with every AP and AD. The only difference is the meningitis help things along and I notice not being able to perform in my job. Most people do not notice until a family member tells them. There's a name for that. I have trouble thinking things through... Analyzing is a problem. Kinda short on time today. --------- On disclosure and noobs... I think full disclosure is something patients don't get from the industry until it is too late. If they get a little scared here it is probably not a bad thing. I'd like to say patients are more aware and intelligent Thant the industry or some people here give them credit for. If somebody is posting about a side effect they mostly know that means they aren't necessarily going to experience the same thing to the same degree. Full disclosure means knowing that which is why it should be practiced. Hiding the possibility is, Quite frankly stupid for several reasons discussed. There is a good article about this on mad in America but I can't get the link right now. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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They should also be warned by their pdocs about the dangerous ones and what to watch for.
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The "paradox" is only a conflict between reality and your feeling of what reality "ought to be." -- Richard Feynman Major Depressive Disorder Anxiety Disorder with some paranoid delusions thrown in for fun. Recovering Alcoholic and Addict Possibly on low end of bi polar spectrum...trying to decide. Male, 50 Fetzima 80mg Lamictal 100mg Remeron 30mg for sleep Klonopin .5mg twice a day, cutting this back |
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sewerrats
You see in England we don't get all that, there is no tv adverts for meds, we cannot buy them only from America with a script and a shed load of money, They are not forced on us like America were average 1 person a household is on meds . its 1 person a bock in England. Yeah, there are big differences between US and UK. No meds ads here. In US everyone seems to have a therapist, whereas here I don't know anyone with one. CBT seems to be offered now, but only last about 6 weeks. |
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We seem to be getting a little mixes up on this thread , its nothing to do with newbies asking questions , its about the negative answers they get. They don't want to hear horror stories from members just because they may have had a hard time on a certain med, they may think it will happen to them. By all means answer a call for help with a side effect they may have, but don't tell them before the have one.
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I hope no one in the UK is thinking about going inpatient then... talk about scaring people!!!
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Also, there are whole sites dedicated to people reporting side effects and experiences with various drugs. Some of the responses are way more extreme than on this forum. .
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My side effects with DBT have been pretty mild. Anybody experience side effects with CBT?
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Funny. Or maybe not so for us who have been damaged by therapy.
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Well they are structured like classes and the dbt therapists are also supposed to work in a structured format to follow the group so one would >think< the likelihood is quite low but there are risks with everything, no? But to take it a step further if the system was integrated and patient centered care less patients would be damaged by the system period.
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Heck, I was told by my previous doc that she 'doesn't believe in depression' and people should just 'not dwell on problems' and they would be fine. Yup, its that easy folks! |
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Sounds about he same as the US to me. And apparently it takes an act of God to get in to see a pdoc. So you probably underdiagnosed.
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The "paradox" is only a conflict between reality and your feeling of what reality "ought to be." -- Richard Feynman Major Depressive Disorder Anxiety Disorder with some paranoid delusions thrown in for fun. Recovering Alcoholic and Addict Possibly on low end of bi polar spectrum...trying to decide. Male, 50 Fetzima 80mg Lamictal 100mg Remeron 30mg for sleep Klonopin .5mg twice a day, cutting this back |
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Wow thanx... exactly what I need to hear....
So everyone needing hospital there dies. Sure. I believe that. And include me personally in the dying business, yup I so needed to hear that right now....
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Weird they let you out....
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Going back to side effects, I admit I'm a bit of a martyr to side-effects, some are worth it though. When I first started Effexor, it was like the lights coming on and I felt amazing, even though I couldn't poo and I was farting and belching and couldn't sleep. I could live with that because I no longer felt crap. Anyhow, something changed, the Effexor stopped working, so my GP did the only thing that they can do in the UK and ramped up the dose (no drug combos or augmentation without a pdoc and pdocs don't see patients referred via GPs) and so ramped up the side effects, I was still prepared to put up with them because I wanted to feel good again. I didn't respond, so up went the dose and wham another new side effect - total loss of bladder control - very public - very humiliating and most definitely not tolerable. That particular s/e is listed as very rare <1:1000 and > 1:10,000 so I guess I was unlucky, and I've had this problem with other meds but never made the connection before. When I started taking Effexor I checked out some of the reviews, without wanting to dismiss anyone's feelings out of hand, most of the complaints could easily be symptoms of depressive illness anyway, so I gave it a go. Despite my bad experience I wouldn't say the drug was bad, because it did work and does for many other people. What I would say though, is when a drug loses its effectiveness don't let the doc's keep on ramping up the doses. Back to the pdoc issue, I got a referral to the community mental health team because my GP wanted advice on specialist prescribing. So I was seen by a bog standard shrink nurse who can't prescribe and didn't even know what TCAs are. She rolled up nearly an hour late to the assessment and hadn't read my referral letter, I'd had to sit in a locked waiting area all the while. After a lengthy assessment, she said "sorry, you're not psychotic and have no other risk factors, we can't see you". I had to ask about the prescribing and she said "Oh the pdoc won't see you in clinic for that". They wrote back to my GP and their advise was that if anti-depressants cause side-effects then stop taking them. Brilliant now what am I supposed to do? Incidentally, the NICE guidance is that moderate to severe depression should be treated with a combination of drugs and CBT and if several drugs have failed then a pdoc or specialist prescriber should consider other treatments or drug combos / augmentation. So I can't even get the treatment recommended by the NHS. ![]() Thank you Sewerrats for giving me a thread where I could post such a massive self-centred rant. ![]() |
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