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Old Jul 02, 2009, 01:07 AM
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T and I reconnected last session, after several weeks of turmoil within me that resulted in my retreating... from just about everyone and everything.

I had been feeling just very flat. That is not a bad place for me to be. It's a place of disconnect where nothing touches me ... positively or negatively. It even seems as if it must be "normal" because I view "normal" as being so emotionally healthy that they can take anything that comes along.
I have gone on like this before for long periods of time.
But this time something about it didn't feel good after a while. I began to feel afraid I was going to end therapy even though I didn't want to do that. Hard to explain
So last session we talked about my approach and avoid (retreat) patterns and I realize that what I was doing was retreating from closeness, from the distrust of it, the uncertainty of it, the what-do-I-do-with-this good feelings about it, the undeserving feelings about it... pushing it away because and when it becomes overwhelming (another pattern).

So we reconnected in a really wonderful session, and true to my patterns, I am afraid to go tonight. I don't want to mess anything up. I want to keep everything just like it is right now.. because it feels good right now. Oh, I'm going to go... I am learning to do things while afraid but, still... ya know?

Anyway, I just felt like writing this out, putting it here, see if anyone else relates in any way.

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Old Jul 02, 2009, 06:43 AM
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I had been feeling just very flat. That is not a bad place for me to be. It's a place of disconnect where nothing touches me ... positively or negatively. It even seems as if it must be "normal" because I view "normal" as being so emotionally healthy that they can take anything that comes along.
I have gone on like this before for long periods of time.
But this time something about it didn't feel good after a while. I began to feel afraid I was going to end therapy even though I didn't want to do that. Hard to explain
So last session we talked about my approach and avoid (retreat) patterns and I realize that what I was doing was retreating from closeness, from the distrust of it, the uncertainty of it, the what-do-I-do-with-this good feelings about it, the undeserving feelings about it... pushing it away because and when it becomes overwhelming (another pattern).
wow, echoes. I really, really relate to what you wrote. This is something I've been mulling over quite a bit during my current retreat from T. It's almost like...it's TOO good...maybe I don't think I deserve it . Good for you for talking about it and moving through it. Maybe I can follow in your footsteps

I hope your session goes well. Let us know, okay??

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Old Jul 02, 2009, 07:48 AM
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(((((echoes)))))

I hope your session goes well. You won't mess anything up. I have learned that, from T that life is unpredictable as are relationships. I know the feeling all to well of wanting to keep things the way they are, but have realized that takes too much effort on my part trying to control things and relationships to keep them as they are. there are going to be ups and downs and they are something you have to deal with as they arise. But those downs don't mean you are messing anything up
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Old Jul 02, 2009, 08:20 AM
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Old Jul 02, 2009, 01:03 PM
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I also have a pattern where I feel too good and end up deflating or flattening out that feeling. You comments are interesting because IDK if I do it because...I don't know what to do with myself when I feel this way or because deep down that core belief that I am "bad" and undeserving of feeling good or maybe it is because when I feel good and want that feeling to continue....I'm likely doing something bad. It is amazing how we repeatedly do some of the things we do and are totally clueless as to why.
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Old Jul 02, 2009, 07:12 PM
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Hi Echoes,

How are you? It feels like it has been a long time......

It's a place of disconnect where nothing touches me ...

OMG I really really get this too! Sometimes I think of myself as if I am in a magnetic forcefield--very super-hero-ish. The forcefield protects me from T, from myself, from the world.

Is this a defense? I suppose it is. I also get the idea of not wanting to "mess things up" -- not wanting to change anything. Why can't we just be in the good place for more than a fleeting second?

Much love to you.

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Old Jul 02, 2009, 08:14 PM
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Thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts.

We talked about this some tonight. How I do this to escape the many things that contribute to my anxiety. Suddenly I don't feel those things. Voila. Who needs anybody or anything, including therapy and T...

I've often said that I felt that depression, which is where this ends up, is the 'flip side' of anxiety. That anxiety relieves depression with action and energy, and depression relieves anxiety with withdrawal from many things including the things that make us anxious. (T had much prettier words for this. lol).

So... T drops an end-of-session bomb on me tonight. I'm still reeling with an erupting volcano of mixed emotions. I have talked about dropping one session here and there for financial reasons, and I said at the beginning of the session tonight that I was going to do that next week. As always happens, I can't give it up. So at the end of the session when she asked about next week I told her I wanted to keep both appointments and that maybe another week I would drop one. She said Okay and it won't be long before I'll be away.. ????????? HUH?!?! Oh she forgot to tell me her daughter is having a baby soon.. in several weeks... a girl... and she's going to go there for a few days. ("Oh, I didn't tell you?!! I'm so sorry to be telling you this way.")
Okay, mature me says How wonderful for everyone; how exciting.. the first grandchild.
The not-so-mature me is that she neglected to tell me at all, that she drops this bomb before the weekend.. I'm already jealous of her daughter (for having such a great mom) and I have this longing for mothering... so here comes a baby girl into her life.. and what if she decides to move there!
Yeah that's right, it's ALL about me. *pout*
But this is way too many feelings to have all at once!

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Old Jul 02, 2009, 08:33 PM
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Old Jul 03, 2009, 06:44 AM
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Echoes that was a tough bomb for her to drop on you at the end of the session.(((Hugs)))

What you said about the axiety and depression cycle makes sense.
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Old Jul 03, 2009, 01:51 PM
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(((((Echoes))))... this is mirroring my life. My t is also expecting her daughter to give birth - at any moment- and so whoever happens to be the unfortunate one whose time is at birth time gets dropped. It's like playing musical chairs.... when will the phone ring. I watched it all during my session this wed. which was about 3 inches from her knee. It rang. We both looked at it. Not the baby. *let out held breath I didn't know i was holding all session*.
At least I did have early warning. T said that of course a baby takes first priority - and she hopes that everyone would naturally agree with that. My mature self (as you said) nods "oh of course!" while my not-so-mature selves start panicking.
Keep breathing Echoes, you can get through this - you're doing really quite well, being able to look at the feelings and acknowledge them all. That takes skill!

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Oh she forgot to tell me her daughter is having a baby soon.. in several weeks... a girl... and she's going to go there for a few days. ("Oh, I didn't tell you?!! I'm so sorry to be telling you this way.")
Okay, mature me says How wonderful for everyone; how exciting.. the first grandchild.
The not-so-mature me is that she neglected to tell me at all, that she drops this bomb before the weekend.. I'm already jealous of her daughter (for having such a great mom) and I have this longing for mothering... so here comes a baby girl into her life.. and what if she decides to move there!
Yeah that's right, it's ALL about me. *pout*
But this is way too many feelings to have all at once!
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Old Jul 08, 2009, 10:39 AM
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You are doing good work Echoes. Work on these last feelings that came up with this bomb???????
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