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Old Oct 25, 2010, 10:42 AM
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I definitely cannot imagine starting over with another therapist. This process of attachment has taken me a long, long time (19 years). She has been so patient and compassionate. I will work with her until she totally retires. We talked in our session today and she plans to continue working with no real plans to totally retire anytime soon. I told her it worried me that she told me she signed a 2 year lease with her colleagues in a new office across the hall and that it felt like I only had her for 2 more years. She assured me that if and when she retires that I would still be able to reach her by phone should I need her and that it is a long way off and I should focus on the present. But she is 66 years old. You would never know looking at her though. I am lucky to have her in my life. I thank God everyday!!!

Cmac,
I'm glad you have such a supportive therapist. It sounds like you don't have any reason to worry about it, she's going to be there for you.

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Old Oct 26, 2010, 03:52 AM
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I told her that cutting off all contact at termination felt mean and wrong to me. Why does reaching a state of healing and independence mean it's necessary to cut off all contact? I used the example of a parent with a grown child who leaves home. Do they say "Goodbye, have a nice life. We won't ever talk or see one another again, but remember the nice memories." It's true we aren't our t's children. But for some of us who never had a close relationship with a parent, the t-client relationship is the closest thing we've ever had to it! Why spend all that time trying to build up their trust and form a relationship with the client, only to cut off all contact later, once they have become close and attached? How is that any different from past relationships where they've learned to love somebody who abandoned them?
Peaches, I don't know if this makes it any better, but schema therapy agrees with you- "In line with the limited reparenting concept, it is important that the bond between patient and therapist remains, even when treatment is formally stopped". The example the authors give is contacting the therapist when important events occur (wedding, birth of child, death of parent), and the therapist responding with a card.

I had only ever experienced the all to nothing terminations you describe, and when I read that, it blew my mind. It gave me the courage to ask my therapist what her policy was, though I did this indirectly by texting her to ask whether her own former therapist knew about the birth of her child. She responded: "Of course she knows. I think it is important for a therapeutic relationship (and one so important in one's life) not to disappear altogether at the end of therapy, can't imagine how it possibly could and how that would be a helpful/therapeutic thing".

Knowing this has totally changed my day to day experience of therapy. I know I can be in some kind of relationship with my T 'forever' and she will know the important things about my life which will happen partly because of her help. I do not have to protect myself from or constantly anticipate the loss of her, because I'm not going to lose her.

From what you wrote, it seems your T is not saying it will be 'nothing' when she retires. I think it's definitely a good sign that she asked how you'd feel about monthly phonecalls. I do understand that it's so very very hard to think and talk about though, especially as the ending will be because of her retirement rather than because you're finished or ready.
Thanks for this!
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Old Oct 26, 2010, 05:59 AM
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I wonder if, when her t took the new job, maybe this client never asked for continued contact, but later just wished she had it?? It may be that her need for continued contact never got voiced, and so the t didn't realize it was necessary.
I think something that would be good for therapists of this kind of client to know is: the client may well not ask, because the client got punished, or ignored, when she did ask for help as a child, and expects that to continue in the present day.
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Old Oct 26, 2010, 06:02 AM
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Well, I am really, really hoping that the t relationship will help me learn both how to attach securely to people who are safe and healthy for me, and also to learn how to let go if and when it's necessary to say goodbye. The idea of loss is absolutely, entirerly terrifying for me.
Once you get the T-assurance securely "inside" of you, then it won't leave you, no matter what.
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Old Oct 26, 2010, 10:15 AM
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I agree, Pachy. I would never have believed it, but the few times I held Ts hand seem to be enough. I don't want more and more, as other Ts warned. I can think about it and feel satisfied. I may need "booster shots" in the future, but it IS inside of me, like you said. Even when I'm not in therapy with her, the good feelings she gave me will be with me. Peaches, I hope that happens to you too.
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