[SlatkaMala]

I'm getting pretty annoyed with my IOP (Intensive outpatient). I get all these DSM diagnosis thrown at me, but no suggestions. Just "OH it'll take time, be patient with yourself."

Sometimes I feel like saying to hell with it all.

[Sannah]

Healing takes time. I don't think diagnoses are too important. What helped me get better was working on the issues that I was having in the moment like social skills, boundaries, meeting my needs, dealing with my feelings, etc. Fixing these get you somewhere.........

[chicken_wing]

Originally Posted by SlatkaMala

I'm getting pretty annoyed with my IOP (Intensive outpatient). I get all these DSM diagnosis thrown at me, but no suggestions. Just "OH it'll take time, be patient with yourself."

Sometimes I feel like saying to hell with it all.

I suppose we shouldn't say the hell with it all, so I'll try to convincingly say, uh, "keep with it."

What I can fully support you on is your frustration with mental health system--not being able to understand it and not getting help with understanding it and yourself better. It is a bunch of bull isht.

[distant]

You are not alone on this at all...going through the same...and Yes, it is very frustrating to hear that line...it'll take time....makes me want to say a lot of things!!

[ECHOES]

... but then when you start to see some things changing, and you feel how the changes make you feel better, it is very exciting

[Christina86]

My T (and even my former pdoc, ironically) weren't ever big into labels or DSM diagnoses... because a label doesn't really help unless you've got some sort of plan to try to alleviate the problem or cope with it!

Maybe share your frustations with them, so they can actually give you tips about how to deal with stuff, or a "plan of action"?

[sugahorse1]

I feel this frustration in therapy. My T allows me to see my weaknesses and sore points, my issues - yet it is mostly up to me to work out how to get past and through it...

[Melbadaze]

Originally Posted by SlatkaMala

I'm getting pretty annoyed with my IOP (Intensive outpatient). I get all these DSM diagnosis thrown at me, but no suggestions. Just "OH it'll take time, be patient with yourself."

Sometimes I feel like saying to hell with it all.

when we enter recovery, most have lost the ablity to know what they want, some enter with a victim mentality and sense of helplessness, I know I did where I expected everyone to continue running my life for me because I'd had little experience of it, part of helping someone is sitting and letting them lead the way, that takes a lot of courage not to keep suggesting. Not now but in the future your come to appricate that.

[sugahorse1]

Melba - I think it takes a lot of work to shed the approach of being the victim and feeling helpless.

[Melbadaze]

Originally Posted by sugahorse

Melba - I think it takes a lot of work to shed the approach of being the victim and feeling helpless.

sure does, believe me, times I've folded arms and pouted lol

[Sannah]

Excellent point Melba. One of the most important things that I learned in therapy was empowerment and that I could take control of my life. Taking control of your healing certainly gets you somewhere.

[purple_fins]

SlatkaMala
boy can I ever relate to your frustration in beginning therapy!

I read some of the posts here and the ones that said about YOU taking the lead can be healing,(instead of letting everyone else lead you) might be of help to you-- but... with that said....
I personally found that approach VERY triggering... that's ALL I EVER had my whole life--everyone depended on ME to take the lead... I was not EVER EVER the one to falter, explode or self destruct... everyone leaned on me while the lives around fell apart due to their alcohol, drug use or impulsive behaviors.
I was so alone-- leading. and yet I had no one to trust- to take the lead so I lead until I dropped with mental and physical exhaustion.

I don't know how you are-- but-- if you're from a place I come from-- taking the lead is what has always been expected. and it feels so so alone. anxiety shoots through the roof! and taking the lead has been what has messed up my whole life -- all my life. (imagine a two, three year old having to know what's best for themself and dealing alone with consequences) Because of so much dysfunction-- I didn't even know HOW to lead and yet I had to. what a mess I made! ..... *sigh*....

I left a therapist that was like -- no suggestions-- just- "well, what do you think, fins"... Are you kidding me?? my thinking is the VERY thing that steered the boat into the hurricane in the first place-- and you ask me what I think?? (I think I lacked enough insight... one of the down falls of too much dissociation) that didn't feel like any kind of help I could benefit from..... ... so I left that T. after 3 years of struggling ..... (not that you should leave your T.-- things could turn out differently for you)

I'm with a T. now that offers "healthy" suggestions... ones that, due to such HUGE neglect with the child's inexperienced brain-- I've had little ability to form for myself.
sometimes it can be detrimental to leave one steering the boat... without a compass or chart....... some of us start from THE VERY beginning and need those suggestions.

hope this helped for you to know you're not alone in your frustration.

best to you and keep us posted on how things go... hope it turns for the better with this T.

fins

[Sannah]

Good point fins. So everyone needs what is best for them then.