Antipsychiatry. I hate doctors

I would no longer continue treatment or deal with any doctors because there all the same, I'm ending this cycle of being treated like a guinea pig by doctors. Doctors don't care about any of their patients, if doctors were given a bonus for every patient who committed suicide all of them would be very rich

I was misdiagnose with psychosis by a doctor who I think doesn't have the best interest in me. All of you need to stop letting these people control your life ! Stop letting doctors tell you what's wrong with you all they do is bring you down. Stop taking your antidepressants stop feeding yourself poison, they want you be dependent on them. Look at the way doctors or your therapist treats you like a guinea pig and their personal rat.*

Take your medications it would be the last time BS ! It's all a lie I had enough ! All I want is help not to be treated like a monster. You're all being treated like animals like crazy people. My psychiatrist left me & sent me into psych wards and didn't care how I felt. Join me because this ends today I'm tired of these people hurting my feelings and making me feel bad because I have a mental illness. These doctors will diagnose you with every mental illness if they could quit being brainwashed that you're not normal.

Stop the tortured ! I'm afraid to asked to be discharged from my new clinic because I feel there going to send into a mental hospital for months or the rest of my life, these people can get away with stuff like this. What should I do because I'm scared of what doctors might do to me. It's obvious that I'm experience something horrible and can't believe what's going on. Did I lose it? Am I crazy for writing this? Do I need help? I'm so confused.

Please share your thoughts and bad experiences you've had.*

It sounds like you are in a huge amount of pain. It also sounds like you are seeing everything in black/white right now. That is a distortion. But when a person is in that much pain, the world can certainly look all one color.

I think you are being very honest when you said you are scared. Can you talk more about that part of things? Sometimes writing it out allows us to clarify the issue a bit.

Im at a clinic where they think I have psychosis and they don't believe me when I say I don't. I was misdiagnosed because I said somethings that weren't true saying that I was dead which I know I'm not.

Can they keep me in the hospital?

I'm going to ask to be discharged from the program in person. Can they force me into a psych ward or send me to court for refusing treatment? Or say I'm a danger to myself or others?

I will not put myself through this. Do you know how it feels when doctors don't believe you. These people are suppose to help me and listen but no they just listen to one doctor who misdiagnosed me. I had enough !!!!

I have not had experience in that area. But I do sent you tons of safe hugs. I know you should be as honest about things as you can be.

Im calmed now. I don't think you would be honest in a locked psych unit. I sent an email to the doctor who misdiagnosed me to explain what I just wrote. Thanks for replying.

Psychiatrists, Medical doctors, therpaists ...they all have a certain degree of power over their patients, but it's not absolute power, even if at times it may feel like that to the patient. I did a very foolish thing when I was clinically depressed and got myself into trouble with the Police. When I went to see the Psychiatrist before the court appearance, he told me that a diagnosis of clinical depression had not actually been made, and that I was being treated as someone who just wasn't happy. I was absolutely flabbergasted, and had to ask him if he was serious? This very same psychiatrist had prescribed me three different types of pharmaceutical anti-depressant, and had also referred me to a Clinical Psychologist for psychotherapy, and now he was telling me that I wasn't depressed!?

I argued with him and told him that I wasn't leaving his office until he made that diagnosis, as if I appeared in court and told the judge that I did what I did because I wasn't happy, instead of suffering from clinical depression, I don't think they would take a very sympathetic or understanding stance. He seemed reluctant, then said that he would provide the official diagnosis (that should have been given before he prescribed medications). I later discovered that had lied and had not provided diagnosis, but I recently acquired my medical history, and "clinical depression" is on it, so he must have added it later or some other psychiatrist did, as I seen two pdocs in total.

Doctors, whether they are psychiatric or purely medical are prone to making mistakes and misdiagnoses are common, but they will rarely if ever admit to it, as that would shatter their illusion of infallibility. I was misdiagnosed with alcohol dependence syndrome simply because I told the pdoc that I was drinking more than usual, and felt that I was beginning to experience adverse consequences, namely feeling disoriented and light-headed when I hadn't been drinking. So he automatically jumped to the (wrong) conclusion; that I had become alcohol dependent, when of course I hadn't. In fact I immediately radically reduced my alcohol intake, and then stopped drinking completely, just to prove to myself that I was not dependent on alcohol.

You must be very careful what you tell a psychiatrist, as not only are they quick to make (mis)diagnoses; if you disagree they can ultimately have you sectioned under the mental health act and committed to a psychiatric facility insisting that it is in the patients own best interests, and if they have deemed you a threat to others as well as yourself; in the interests of the general public. At least that's how they operate here in the UK.

I agree that doctors in general can often treat their patients like guinea pigs and pieces of broken down machinery, and I know for a fact that in some instances they can even go so far as to use your illness against you; labelling your protestations as a symptom of your illness. But you must take sufficient care to consider all options and make the right decision for yourself when considering consigning all psychiatric treatment to the dustbin, and walking away from psychiatrists once and for all, as it would be so easy to make a decision that would be detrimental to the improvement of your mental health.

Unfortunately, sometimes they do have an absolute power. They can lock you up involuntary and give you meds of their choice.

Also, docs can easily and with no ill effect, treat patients bad, because they do have power. You can say those are the bad doctors but what does it help if you cannot get away from them? Everyone in the world cannot go doc shopping.

I had this doctor who pretended to be fine with me first time we met, second time he sort of admitted he just collected info to use against me. He wanted me back on a med I stopped, because it was destroying me. The max dosage of that one is 200 mg. He said he was going to put me on 300 mg and if I didn't show "progress", he would put me on 500 (which probably would have killed me). I refused. I asked for another med but he didn't budge.

He scared me so bad that I called him and I made myself the smallest I could, taking all the blame, but said I needed a different doctor and because he was this way I had to really try to convince him it wasn't his fault. Then he exploded and said NO MORE HELP FOR YOU! And he said he will tell all his coworkers to blacklist me. And he took the rest of my meds (refused prescribing) for six months. I was a wreck.

Here, there is no place to report a doc, you are supposed to talk to their boss, well he was the boss there. So I was basically stuck. After six months I guess I had had my punishment and I was allowed to see a new doc.

Back then I had welfare benefits because I was so sick I couldn't even do an hour of work. I needed a doctor's slip to cash that money. So whenever I was in disagreement with a doctor, they threatened me with not writing the note so I would get evicted and starve. I can tell you, you are not full of fight in a situation like that. You try to save yourself and you go along with whatever they say, no matter how harmful it is to you.

With that said.... I would NEVER tell people to ditch their meds. I need my antidepressant, if I don't take it, I die. Plain and simple. You can always make a choice yourself about stopping meds, but please don't recruit.

I'm not showing up I won't be sent to a psych ward for months to be tortured. I will do my talking over the phone because I am safe and away from any mental health professionals.

When I joined the new clinic the I told the social worker that I'm really depressed and that I'm not talking about suicide because it gets me in trouble and that I'm not going to continue treatment. She got really mad that I was so scared of being sent away and said I will continue treatment and will talk about suicide. I'm so scared of doctors now after being misdiagnosed and being sent to the psych ward two times and dealing one bad doctor that ruined my life I will not continue.

It makes me angry to read how people suffering from mental illness are living in fear of their docotrs, but it also confirms my own personal bad experiences, not of psychiatrists and psychologists (with the exception of one), but of medical doctors.

My experience of regular medical doctors (GP's as they are known in the UK) has led me to conclude that most of them are megalomaniacs, control freaks, and some of them bullies; more interested in exercising complete power, dominance, and control over their patients than attending to their physical (and mental health) needs.

My experience of the medical profession has made me hate doctors so much that I will only go to see one in extreme circumstances when there is no other option.

I created a thread about it on this site:

http://forums.psychcentral.com/showthread.php?t=223429

I've never had any reason to mistrust any of the health professionals I've dealt with. Maybe I'm just lucky.
My doctor can be wrong, however. That's why we have specialists.

I agree with that. With the exception of one horrible experience, the doctors I have worked with personally, with my 3 children, and with my husband whose medical and psychiatric issues are numerous and very serious and involved have been attentive, expert, and caring. I also watched my sister battle cancer 4 times from the age of 10 until she finally lost the fight at age 54 after complications from bone marrow transplant. The quality of care and expertise of not only the dozens of doctors, but also the nurses, technolgists, radiation therapists, phlebotomists, case managers, etc. was exceptional. The numbers of health professionals I speak of numbers literally in the hundreds.

We've been fortunate though and have always had good medical insurance giving us access to a pool of doctors and hospitals to work from. I don't think the under- and un- insured have those kind of options in this country for the most part which is an inequality that is in dire need of correction.

Its strange that you choose to call yourself mentally ill unyet post about distrust of doctors. I dont deny there are lots of instances of abuse by some medical people. I have had some horrible experiences, but more good experiences, and I certainly do not feel drawn to calling mysellf mentally ill. I find that for msyelf that would be more an attention getting tag.

You are lucky but trying going to the emergency room for being suicidal. They treat you like an animal. I been yelled at by my psychiatrist, threatened by a social worker to continue treatment. Treated like dirt by nurses and criminal by hospital staff members. I'm not overreacting... What can I do ? Sit back and take it. People and doctors step all over me because I'm a nice guy I won't say or do nothing. This ends now !

I'll share with you what I sent my psychiatrist.

"Another big reason I will refused to joining a new clinic and meeting new doctors is because having depression is hard, but the way some doctors treat me make it even harder the doctors treat me like I'm not human. I've been to the emergency room couple of times and these are the things I notice. You are put into special section in the hospital where you're not allowed to leave and your forced into hospital clothing while a gaurd is watching you, they treat you like your this crazy murderer suicidial person. You're not allowed to use the bathroom or get a cup of water without a gaurd escorting you. Even if you get up out your bed to ask a question you have all the guards look at you like your about to do something crazy or try to escape."

I got the name when I first I join this site when I trusted doctors I can't change it now. The doctor who made me feel this way and abused me won't get away it, I sent him an email and a voicemail. If he doesn't response he won't get away with this even if it means that I harass him, annoy him, stalk him and call his boss. I never experience this type of harsh help from any doctor before that's why I'm going crazy.

If I would have to wear hospital clothes I'd go mad. There has been studies and those allowed wearing normal clothes get better faster. I have a phobia against other people's clothes so I'd be in a constant panic.

I've had many Doctors and Therapists along the way ... Some have been great ... Some have been not so great ... And others have downright sucked ...

Nevertheless, I can say with absolute certainty that the one who most interfered with my own healing and recovery process was myself ...

When I finally "got" that, I got out of the way and allowed the healing process to actually begin ...

I hope you are eventually able to find a treatment team that you can trust so that you can experience the same ...

Living inside the storm of mental illness isn't a fun place to be and it can (and will) eventually destroy us ... But only if we let it ...

Sincerely,
BrokenCloud

I'm sorry you've had bad experiences with doctors.

I'm sort of in a unique position, because I'm a medical student, so I'm involved in patient care myself. At the same time, I have lots of experience being the patient (I have multiple mental illnesses, and a few years ago I was in the hospital for a week because of my gallbladder). And you know what? I've had ****** doctors and ****** experiences with the health care system too. So I see it from both sides.

What I can tell you from being a medical student is this: doctors are people. We make mistakes. Sometimes we don't know the answer. We are under ENORMOUS time pressure and stress. Sometimes we are having an off day, sometimes we just plain suck (yes, some doctors just plain suck). There also a lot of systemic pressures. There is this...hierarchy, where as a student you are not supposed to question your superiors. You are also expected to always have the answer, and if you ask a question it looks bad....as if you aren't prepared. Finally, you are often pushed to handle situations that you don't have the training for...pushed beyond your capabilities. All of this leads to a culture of medical error and poor patient care.

But I can tell you this. I, and most doctors/medical professionals, really do have good intentions. We do care. After all, we have devoted our entire lives to patient care. You don't know how much sacrifice it takes to become a doctor. The time, the effort, the money, the separation from loved ones, the sleepless nights, those mornings that you are so tired that the thought of getting out of bed literally makes you cry...

Becoming a doctor is damn hard. People rarely go into medicine unless they truly have a passion for it. But doctors are imperfect creatures, and the system is broken. And when you have imperfect people working in a broken system, something's gotta give. Either patients start falling through the cracks, mistakes happen, or doctors start losing their minds. Often all of the above. Did you know doctors have one of the highest divorce rates, one of the highest depression rates, and one of the highest addiction rates of any profession? It's a damn stressful life. I say that and I'm only a med student. I've just barely begun down that path.

I would say...trust that your doctor's intentions are good. Trust that your doctor has your best interests at heart. But don't blindly trust your doctor's judgement. Be your own health advocate. Ask questions. Look things up. Push for tests. Follow up on results. Ask for a copy of your medical records, read them, and keep them up to date at home. If things don't make sense, get a second opinion. Don't let yourself be the patient that falls through the cracks.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I am sure some people become mds because they want to help. Intent to care is not a substitute for competence nor a defense to treating someone else badly. Those who claim to care often want to insist another accept that care and become quite dangerous when that help is questioned or turned down.

I am like you bpms. I see medicine from both within and without so to speak.

I 100% totally agree. Most physicians have truly good intentions, but operate in a hopelessly broken system. That's not to say that there aren't some losers out there, there are. Of all the fields, psychiatry (& perhaps surgery) is easly the most broken right now.

I personally think it is far too easy for a psychiatrist to slap a "delusional" label on a patient and that's it.

After that, it's unlikely that the patient can break through the system enough to get another physician to take notice and listen. It's more efficient to just write the patient off.

Like you, I truly do not think it is malfeasance, but, well, every system is perfectly designed to generate the outcome it produces.

Broken system, broken outcome.

No, good intentions are not a substitute for competence, nor an adequate defense against incompetence.

I must not understand the rest of your post. It seems outlandish at first read.

Insisting that others accept a certain "care" for their own good or becuase it is "in their best interest". I don't understand what you find outlandish. In my defense of clients, some of the most dangerous people against them were their social workers, therapists and mds. Mostly because in their notion of acaring they thought they got to decide what is best for another adult and sought to impose it. It always surprised me how very angry having to follow the law made the mds in the cases I had with them.

I believe you. I think I was slightly triggered by you saying "All doctors are the same."

The treatment of suicidal patients in the US sounds abominable.
There was a recent thread where a woman was being hospitalised voluntarily and was searched and handcuffed on the way. "Standard policy", apparently.
And I seem to recall that WikkidPissah was stripped to her underwear and locked in a room while they decided what to do with her.

So I'm not disputing your experience.

Right, which is why I recommended that patients not blindly trust their doctor's judgement. You really need to be your own advocate as you navigate the health care system. There is a lot of incompetence and error in the system, which is why as a patient you need to stay on top of your own health care. It's not right, but that's how it is right now.

As for myself, I try my best to do right by each patient. I try my best not to judge, and I never write off a patient as an 'addict', 'drug-seeker', or 'psych case'. I try to take the cases that other doctors don't take seriously. Just the other day I took one of those cases -- one that my supervising physician had written off as an 'out-of-work drug seeker', spent some time with him, and figured out that he had a serious disease that had been diagnosed a few years ago, but everyone had forgotton to follow-up on it! I brought it to the attention of my supervising physician, and she promised to follow-up on it immediately.

Will I always be this altruistic? I don't know. I think all med students start out like me. But most end up jaded and bitter at some point. The medical profession seems to have a way of making you jaded. It burns you out, eventually. I don't want to say I'm immune to that kind of burn-out, because probably every med student thinks that way.

I know what it's like to be marginalized and stigmatized for something you can't control. So I hope that will prevent me from marginzalizing and stigmatizing others in my career. For now, I just try to pay extra attention to those patients who are marginalized and treated badly in the health care system. Patients with mental illness, drug addiction, chronic pain, on narcotics, on disability, out of work, etc. The patients noone takes seriously, are the patients I focus my attention on.

Ok, I get you. Yeah, paternalism is still very strong in medicine. FWIW, we keep getting lectured over and over again in med school about how we shouldn't be paternalistic, how we need to respect patient autonomy (even if we disagree with a patient's decision), how the cornerstone of medical ethics is informed consent, etc. Seriously, we get lectured on this day in and day out. I think you will find that the new crop of physicians is far less paternalistic as a result.

theres just so much one has to learn about advocating for themselves when it comes to medicine and diagnoses. its so much. it can get frustrating way too fast. ive spent more years, around 6, trying to learn about my diagnosis. and in between, learning about meds. i just dont understand meds.

I agree, it's really complicated. That's why sites like this and crazymeds and such are so useful.

I'm just learning neuroanatomy right now in school, and it's incredibly confusing!