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i love this!
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I never had a T or other mental health person take notes in session - except possibly Horrible Counsellor Woman whom I saw once last August - I've pretty much blanked out all that happened then. Anyway, ex-T took notes after each session, and kept a journal, which will be kept at the clinic for five years (but nobody but ex-T is allowed to read it). She had a fairly good memory for things I'd said.
I'm going to ask new T about his routines concerning notes and journals next time I see him. I'm sure he makes notes, because he seems to remember everything I've told him, and anyway I've had him as a pdoc and I'm certain he's required by law to keep a journal of my medication. I don't know how I would like having a T take notes as I talked. Maybe I would be all focused on what they were writing. Maybe not. |
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It's interesting to see how many of us have/have had Ts who don't take notes. Not exactly the T stereotype
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T really, really likes taking notes. In fact, one time her pen died and she had to interrupt me to go into the other room to get a new one. This did not bother me at all (and she knows me well enough to trust that I would be fine with it)- in fact, I found it kind of endearing. Like I said, though, her memory is scary good so I don't' know why she relies notes so much. |
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I guess the note-taking is for those of us whose T's do not hold our history in their hearts.
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Or for Ts who don't have a great memory, or have a bigger caseload and want to make sure to keep actual notes of all their clients so they keep everyone straight, or just a personal preference...
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My T also doesn't take notes. Very occasionally she'll write something specific down, if we're planning something, but very seldom. She took a few notes when I first met her.
I like that she doesn't, and how focused she is on just talking and listening to me during my sessions. She doesn't take notes after sessions either. She never forgets what I've said! |
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Hopefully you know that is a bunch of bull hockey.
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I'll tell you how it was.. he's writing like a maniac, of course eyes on his yellow pad. The only time he looks at me is when I fall silent. So he misses all the non-verbal expressions.. which may explain why I so often felt like he misunderstood me. And if I'm struggling to talk about something painful, I don't get any eye-to-eye response - like where you see compassion, or you can tell they 'get it.' It wasn't until I got to my current therapist that I found out what that was like. There have been so many times that I have opened up a painful wound for her to help me untangle, and after I finish our eyes lock and she doesn't have to say a word.. I feel safely held by her compassion and care. My first therapist could have never offered that, because he was so focused on writing all kinds of crap down that did absolutely nothing therapeutic for me.
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Maybe not! I thought TheBunnyWithin made a good point. What took place with my first therapist wasn't a little note-taking. It was copious. Constant. It was his focus. My current therapist writes a brief note afterwards, because some form of notes is required of therapists.. but she does it after I leave.
All I can say, is no therapy took place with my first therapist, his notes got all his attention. And he sure was proud of his note-taking, I'll tell you. He thought it was one of the things that distinguished him as among the best. I think it's interesting that this thread apparently hit a real raw nerve with me.
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I'm sorry this thread struck a nerve Crescent Moon, I just thought this thread might be interesting. It turns out that my therapist isn't in the minority on not taking notes during session, I thought for sure that she was. |
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![]() I don't mind my T note-taking because he's only capturing things that he feels are important, and that makes me feel that he's paying attention to me and that important things are happening in session, things worth noting. I have no idea if it's a memory thing or just personal preference, but he's 62--and I'm a little older--and I know that the memory just sort of goes at that age, whether you've got a PhD or not. ![]() |
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No need to apologize! I just didn't expect to still have such strong feelings about it three years after stopping therapy with him. My reaction was interesting to me :-)
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Your therapist's moderate note-taking might be because it was much more common when he was starting out. I think it's been in the last decade or so that more minimal note-taking became the norm. First, because of therapy notes being easier to get by the courts, and second, because of the increased focus on the importance of the therapeutic relationship.
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Glad you've moved on. ![]() |
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My T does not take notes during session. If she does, it's a sticky note with just points to remember. It would drive me nuts if she wrote all the time...
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My T does not take notes during our session. He looks directly at me - he never breaks eye contact. And I stare right back at him! He usually writes a summary of our session after I leave during the 10 minutes in between clients. But he has a phenomenal memory - I don't know how he does it - he has a full caseload of 35-40 clients/week and never writes a thing.
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My T does not take notes. However, for a class she was taking, she needed to take notes for a 2/week patient and I volunteered to be that person. It was interesting! I like very much that she doesn't take notes, and has gotten to know me and remembers things
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Mine took them during the assessment appointment and the first few after that. Now t doesn't. I was always wondering what she was writing. I know they still exist in some form because she has referred to my file and I'm sure there is more in it than the few papers I've filled and the notes from the other counselor during the assessment. I thought it was a little odd when she quit, because Ts take notes in all the movies/tv shows, but I like it better.
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My psychologist makes notes, not huge amount to be honest it doesn't bother me at all, most of the time I don't even notice she is doing it but she doesn't take loads. I am having therapy on the NHS and I know a file is kept on the computer of our sessions. I would rather she took notes and remembers then not take notes and forget things
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Hmmmm, in the 3 or so years with T, I have never seen T take any notes. T leaves right after I leave so he must take notes when he is at home. Considering T knows and can repeat/remember almost everthing ever said (that can really be irratating at times
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I talked to my T about this.
She only takes notes at the very beginning. After that, she works without notes or records.
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My last T used to write stuff down right in front of my face. It irritated me a bit because they drilled it into us at university that you should NEVER do that and it is very unprofessional. But after a while you just get used to it really. In a way I kinda understand because it would be hard to remember all the important stuff when the moment is over. It would be hard to remember 50 minutes of stuff later on.
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my T has never taken notes at all during my session.i didn't think that she took notes at all,but one week she asked me what i had said about something the week before.i told her i didn't remember.she was in boot camp T mode then ans said that she was going to have to read her notes to find out what we talked about it i didn't remember.and she did she came back the next week repeating what was talked about.so i guess she must write after sessions or something
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