June 5th session, Part 2 of 3

Chopin99 · Jun 06, 2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rainbow8

I haven't read the threads yet Chopin, but I was just wondering something. What do you think your T would say if she saw your threads? It seems kind of unethical to me for you to post the transcripts of your sessions, especially if your T doesn't know you're recording them. I think it's fine to post what we remember about our sessions, even the details of what T said, but this seems like "too much" to me. I don't know. It's just my opinion and has nothing to do with your need to tell, and to get support. It's probably not against any PC rules, but I feel embarrassed for your T unless she gave you her permission. Sorry if I'm being a downer on this. You can tell me to mind my own business about it! And I DO support you because I know it's important for you to process your session this way.

I'm not sure what she would say. No one knows who she is on here, so I don't think she'd be specifically bothered. I am not violating any law and ethics can be debated all day long. There would only be need for embarrassment if she is ashamed of her work. I don't believe she is.

I'm just doing this for this one session. I don't know that I will ever record a session again. Regarding posting it, this transcription is too much work, but this was an odd session to me and I do feel I need to process it this way, in the cold light of day, as it were.

stopdog · Jun 06, 2012, 07:15 PM

It is not unethical for a client to post their session. It would be unethical for the therapist to do so. The different parties have different ethics.

WikidPissah · Jun 07, 2012, 10:05 AM

I get that the client isn't ethically responsible to keep sessions confidential. But, I do kind of feel badly that this woman had no idea her words were going to be posted on the internet and scrutinized by people. If she had known what she was saying would be public, she would have probably worded things differently.

unaluna · Jun 07, 2012, 10:22 AM

hey, she's licensed by the state, like an accountant - consider it an audit

seriously. either her methods have validity, or she has a reason for them - but a different choice of words wouldn't really make a big difference? idk.

WikidPissah · Jun 07, 2012, 10:26 AM

T's don't have to keep a running account of every word they say like accountants do with $$. Too bad though, because suffering through an audit or two would put them all on the straight and narrow.

CantExplain · Jun 07, 2012, 06:44 PM

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*Evil look*

You transcribed that from tape?!

CantExplain · Jun 07, 2012, 07:22 PM

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Am I overreacting in being so triggered by this? Admittedly, there's still one more section to go, but...?

If it's any comfort, I find it easier to understand your side than hers.

My experience is that Ts are quite weak at explaining things to technical people.

CantExplain · Jun 07, 2012, 07:26 PM

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The problem I have here is that while I am a Christian, my views are a bit different from hers (I am a liberal, progressive Christian; she's a more traditional, moderate evangelical Christian), but I feel as if she wants me to ascribe to her way of thinking...that I'm not going to heal until I do.

As I recall, you raised this with her and she said you didn't have to agree with her on every detail in order to make progress.

Have you told her you have trouble believing this?

CantExplain · Jun 07, 2012, 07:35 PM

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"I feel like I need to grieve."
"Then grieve."

This is the sort of stupidity that gives Jedi masters a bad name.

CantExplain · Jun 07, 2012, 07:50 PM

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To me "truth" is somewhat relative. If we "know" truth, what is the point of faith?

C.S. Lewis addresses this in one of his tracts.

As I understand it:
1. Truth is absolute.
2. Faith means holding to the truth.

His position is that we know the Bible is true because we have proved it. And having proved it, the only sane response is to keep on believing it.

There is nothing mystical about his faith. It's cold, hard logic.

Chopin99 · Jun 07, 2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CantExplain

As I recall, you raised this with her and she said you didn't have to agree with her on every detail in order to make progress.

Have you told her you have trouble believing this?

I told her today.

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Originally Posted by CantExplain

C.S. Lewis addresses this in one of his tracts.

As I understand it:
1. Truth is absolute.
2. Faith means holding to the truth.

His position is that we know the Bible is true because we have proved it. And having proved it, the only sane response is to keep on believing it.

There is nothing mystical about his faith. It's cold, hard logic.

When did we prove it and how was it proven?

CantExplain · Jun 07, 2012, 11:26 PM

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I told her today.

When did we prove it and how was it proven?

I'll see if I can locate the original text...

...OK The book was called Mere Christianity.

Snuffleupagus · Jun 07, 2012, 11:47 PM

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I'll see if I can locate the original text...

...OK The book was called Mere Christianity.

And most of the arguments in that book have been tidily countered--even by Lewis's own admission.

CantExplain · Jun 08, 2012, 12:12 AM

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And most of the arguments in that book have been tidily countered--even by Lewis's own admission.

Hmmmm. Why did I bring it up?

Chopin asked about the relationship between faith and truth and I was simply suggesting that they need not be in opposition.

I'm not a great fan of Lewis myself.

berly621 · Jun 10, 2012, 12:15 AM

Hi Chopin, new too this forum and havn't written much but this whole post is kind of amazing. I am assuming you are Christian because I would flip out if my T told me we are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God. What does that mean anyway? I thought Jesus said we are all Children of God. We are all Divine. Sinner in Greek means "missing the mark". So what? We all make mistakes. Anyway I don't know you well enough to really comment but I appreciate the guts of posting a private therapy session. It is fascinating to compare someone else's real time therapy experience. Thanks for that!

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