[Littlemeinside]

I just saw a former T´s website. It said " what you can buy from me" then listed the services.

For some reason it felt weird. What happend to " what I have to offer or can provide"

Obviously we are paying for their services. Still

I am they only one feeling this way?

[stopdog]

It sounds, to me, unusually honest coming from a therapist.

[anilam]

No, I'm joining you- sound weird

[doyoutrustme]

Could it be a site template that he didn't customize well?:/

thats weird.

[anilam]

Originally Posted by stopdog

It sounds, to me, unusually honest coming from a therapist.

Don't think so- the way I see it you're buying their time and nothing else. Otherwise, man I got tons of sessions my T owes me back- didn't offer anything, just his time

[likelife]

That would be off-putting to me. It's not like doctors say "you can buy a physical or a mammogram from me."

[stopdog]

Originally Posted by anilam

Don't think so- the way I see it you're buying their time and nothing else. Otherwise, man I got tons of sessions my T owes me back- didn't offer anything, just his time

I don't see all therapists offering the same thing - perhaps from the one OP listed - he has different things people can buy, perhaps from yours - all he has to sell is time. Time is the only thing the one I see sells either. I don't think she has anything else that would be useful that she could sell.

[stopdog]

Originally Posted by likelife

That would be off-putting to me. It's not like doctors say "you can buy a physical or a mammogram from me."

I think they should. Again, it would be admirably honest in my opinion.

[rainbow8]

That sounds terrible to me! Did you LIKE this T? I'd never want to go to a T who wrote or said that!

[unaluna]

Originally Posted by doyoutrustme

Could it be a site template that he didn't customize well?:/

thats weird.

That sounds right. people can get intimidated by computers. He might be a good therapist but not very computer literate. Maybe he copied his wife's etsy site!!

Eta: also, lazy butt job by the computer programmer! Or english is not their first language. Techspeak is.

Not the best wording.

[rainbow8]

Originally Posted by Littlemeinside

I just saw a former T´s website. It said " what you can buy from me" then listed the services.

For some reason it felt weird. What happend to " what I have to offer or can provide"

Obviously we are paying for their services. Still

I am they only one feeling this way?

Is English this T's first language? Or maybe like Hankster and doyoutrustme said, it's a computer problem?

[stopdog]

How is the word "buy" upsetting/unsettling/inaccurate? I really do not understand.

[WikidPissah]

I think it is totally honest. You are purchasing time, a listening ear, techniques, instruction and all those types of things. I don't know why people don't realize they are buying their t's. Like any professional, if you (or your insurance company) stops paying them they will cease to be of service. (except in certain pro-bono cases)

[rainbow8]

Originally Posted by stopdog

How is the word "buy" upsetting/unsettling/inaccurate? I really do not understand.

I wouldn't like it if any of my doctors advertised like that either! People in helping professionals are supposed to provide a service, that of helping. It's not like a grocery store. Yes, money is involved but the 'helping" should come first. When I go to my doctor with a pain, I don't want a list of what everything costs first. I want him to make the pain go away!! I don't want my T to tell me what I'm "buying" from her. I want her to help me, and not emphasize that I'm buying anything from her. It's just poor terminology! Yes, I'm paying her, but I'm not "buying" a product though you could say I'm buying a service.

Now, I think insurance salesman should use the word "buy". They tell us what we "need", but at least in my case, he really wants to sell us something, and take money we don't want him to have!

ETA: I don't mean life, health, or home, fire insurance. I'm talking about insurance companies who are into investments now!

[unaluna]

Originally Posted by stopdog

How is the word "buy" upsetting/unsettling/inaccurate? I really do not understand.

I think because he's shortchanging what he provides. You sell a vacuum cleaner part. What a t provides is ineffable

[stopdog]

Originally Posted by rainbow8

I wouldn't like it if any of my doctors advertised like that either! People in helping professionals are supposed to provide a service, that of helping. It's not like a grocery store. Yes, money is involved but the 'helping" should come first. When I do to my doctor with a pain, I don't want a list of what everything costs first. I want him to make the pain go away!!

Originally Posted by hankster

I think because he's shortchanging what he provides. You sell a vacuum cleaner part. What a t provides is ineffable

I think these ideas cause all sorts of unnecessary complications and misunderstandings with and by persons who hold themselves out as being any sort of "health" provider. What a therapist provides/sells most certainly should be effable.

My T has been really clear about what I "buy" from him, and he uses that word. He says I buy his time. I buy his expertise. I buy the treatment plan. I buy his undivided attention for 50 minutes. I do not buy his out-of-session time for emails or calls; he offers that to me freely because he chooses to. I do not buy his care or respect for me; he just feels it.

[pbutton]

I'm also not sure I understand the sensitivity to the language. I am buying his time, and I certainly want to know the cost up front.

As nice as he is, I am sure he doesn't want to spend all day sitting around listening to people's tales of woe for free. Who would?

[unaluna]

Originally Posted by stopdog

I think these ideas cause all sorts of unnecessary complications and misunderstandings with and by persons who hold themselves out as being any sort of "health" provider. What a therapist provides most certainly should be effable.

See that's the kind of talk that gets you branded a granola crunching earth mother hippie type.

And talk about ts being effable belongs in romantic feelings... if nobodys gonna pick up my straight lines

ETA: Seriously, maybe the difference between effable and ineffable is time and methodology. Ineffable is long term psychodynamic; effable is shorter term dbt or dbt - more behavior-mod oriented. Ineffable means you have to pull into your brain, undo all these bad connections, and make good connections and habits in spite of your "better" judgment. I like the idea of pulling in all this data and making order out of chaos - that's how I used to make a living

[wotchermuggle]

Great way to start off a relationship.

[Littlemeinside]

Originally Posted by wotchermuggle

Great way to start off a relationship.

I think, thats how I feel and why I have a problem with the word. It´s not the fact that it´s her job and I have to pay.

[Perna]

Maybe it was a certain number of sessions or something; one could get a good idea of how much 10 sessions would cost that way, for example. The insurance stuff is getting more and more completed for psychotherapists I think so many are just saying to heck with that and everyone pays out-of-pocket. Maybe what was offered was more like a "course" instead of what we think of "therapy"?

[Littlemeinside]

Originally Posted by Perna

Maybe it was a certain number of sessions or something; one could get a good idea of how much 10 sessions would cost that way, for example. The insurance stuff is getting more and more completed for psychotherapists I think so many are just saying to heck with that and everyone pays out-of-pocket. Maybe what was offered was more like a "course" instead of what we think of "therapy"?

No all the differently therapy services were listed. " You can buy" group or individual therapy ect. No pricelist.

[tinyrabbit]

I'm a writer and editor and I have to say I think this is a poor choice of wording because it really depersonalises the whole concept of therapy and makes it sound like this T is very money-oriented.