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Old Jun 13, 2013, 12:42 AM
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I don't think I have seen it around others either. And most of the time when I talk to people, they don't understand the point I am trying to make. That woman I see does not seem to understand my point either. Perhaps I go to see a therapist for reasons that are not weight sharing analogy appropriate. Or perhaps I am just odd or dense or an alien.
But it is fascinating to watch others talk about the weight lifting by sharing thing both here and in real life. I often feel like an anthropologist observing.
I used to not understand the weight lifting by sharing thing. Now I do, and in ssome ways I wish I didn't. It feels shameful and I crave it and I hate myself when I do it and feel miserable when I can't. But it really is a peculiarly physical sensation of lightness when it happens.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 12:44 AM
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Hugs to all the couch who accept them. What interesting week. I'll catch up on the couch later.

*shock* *horror* My T has changed his room and I'm reeling. I can't believe I've had such a strong emotional reaction to a change of furniture and its position. Lucky he warned me before i entered.
Before he used to have 2 client chairs on the wall with the door, I always sat in one particular chair because it was near the door and he sat opposite it. Now he just has 1 client chair IN THE CORNER! He sits diagonally across from the chair so i now have to walk PAST him to get to the door. Walking past anyone causes me anxiety but being in an enclosed space just amplifies it.

Also the chair is too comfortable, I don't really want to be too comfortable in that room.

Also on the way out he said "How do you like the new chairs?" I said "Awful" he replied "Good" Maybe i should have been polite and say something nice but i didn't.

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Old Jun 13, 2013, 02:54 AM
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This makes no sense to me - the therapist carrying weight thing. Well, the cake thing either, but the weight thing is a fairly commonly used description around therapists. I hear things like this, and I see people respond like they understand this sort of language use and idea and have experienced such or can imagine it - and I am left as though everyone else is speaking aramaic.

(This is not criticizing hankster - I am simply astonished at how I cannot - and I have tried- even come up with something close to it in my mind)
I always believed that a trouble shared is a trouble doubled.
It took many years to learn that some people really do want top hear your bad news and it really does help to tell them.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 02:59 AM
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I have use for the woman, but it is not what people describe here.
I still don't understand what you get from her.
It must be important, though.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 03:23 AM
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I’m into the third stage of grieving.
First I grieved over the separation.
Second I grieved over the impossibility of going back.
And now I’m grieving that I don’t even have a reason to go back.

Like, why was I even there?
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 05:54 AM
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((( CE ))) - I am hopeful that you will be able to get through this grieving process and come out with a sense of peace about it all. (( HUGS ))
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 05:56 AM
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Good morning...
As far as trauma work, personally I don't see the point. I was advised by a top trauma facility that it would be better for me not to try to get into it. 18 yrs of it would take too long to process, it would put me in trauma work for the rest of my life. The best thing for me personally, is to learn how to change my reactions to myself and others. To learn coping skills. I am getting really good at keeping myself from dissociating. I have said things about my past in T, but we have just talked about emotions, never details. I had a T once that was all bent on revisiting every incident, and I learned quickly that that was impossible. I'd have to sign up for a rubber room.

* again this is FOR ME, not anyone else. We all do T differently.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 06:00 AM
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SD - I didn't believe that my CSA history affected me much either. I found, though, that some of my behaviors are a direct result of those experiences - especially when it comes to any kind of sexual or intimate activity. I have very strict boundaries. Always clothed. Don't touch me here. Don't touch me there. I become incredibly tense during certain types of activities and feel safer with others. There are reasons for that that I wasn't aware of for the longest time.

I also am struggling with the idea of sharing with people I'm close to. The closeness I have with my friends aren't like that. I don't cry on their shoulders, and I certainly don't tell them the nitty gritty details of my past.

When I finally started to get in touch with my emotions, I began to have all of these feelings surrounding it - mostly shame and humiliation. And by exploring it, I'm making all of these connections to how I behave now as a result of the past. It's eye-opening.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 06:02 AM
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Good morning, couch peeps. (((( STRETCH & YAWN ))))

Had a decent night's sleep, although I could use another several hours. I am so glad I didn't have to get up at 4 AM for work today.

I see T this afternoon. Gotta do lots of cleaning before and after...I hope I do it rather than go back to sleep which is what my body is trying to get me to do.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 06:05 AM
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The sky was ominous out my kitchen window this morning...
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 06:24 AM
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morning peeps
wiki i hope your day is better then that sky looks
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 06:26 AM
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 06:27 AM
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((( EllieBear )))

I'm glad your T session was helpful!
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 06:32 AM
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Good Morning everyone. I hope you all have a good day.

I'm excited about picking up my older son tonight but not about the bad weather I anticipate driving through.

My younger son woke up by himself tonight and said I have to go see if the driver died and so I had to tell him and then he watched stuff about it on ESPN. He was sad and it took everything out of me not to say see how stupid race car driving is....

Anyway Hope everyone has a good day.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 06:33 AM
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Granite, bringing it up seems to be one of the hardest parts for me. I have a difficult time walking into session and opening that box. I told T that I needed help with that, because outside of therapy, it's contained. So, making the transition is difficult. I need him to steer me there, because I have trouble doing it on my own.

Last session, T ended up asking me some questions which helped open the door to that conversation. It helped, but I was short with the answers and then told him I didn't like talking about it. I am not sure how to go back to it today or if I want to...but I know that prolonging it hasn't helped me.

Oh, and another thing T said to me is that by not sharing it, it keeps me in the injured stage and doesn't allow for me to progress through the rest of the stages. So by NOT talking about it, I am continuing to feel the effects in a more unhealthy way than if I were to work through it.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 06:33 AM
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Good morning...
As far as trauma work, personally I don't see the point. I was advised by a top trauma facility that it would be better for me not to try to get into it. 18 yrs of it would take too long to process, it would put me in trauma work for the rest of my life. The best thing for me personally, is to learn how to change my reactions to myself and others. To learn coping skills. I am getting really good at keeping myself from dissociating. I have said things about my past in T, but we have just talked about emotions, never details. I had a T once that was all bent on revisiting every incident, and I learned quickly that that was impossible. I'd have to sign up for a rubber room.

* again this is FOR ME, not anyone else. We all do T differently.
i completely get this but didn't that realization of this make you even more sad?

i wonder if this is a place i am at. i mean after 16 years of abuse how can you possibly process it all. i would say that there would have been rarely a week that went bye without some horrible thing the mother did. being hit ,locked in my room,or public humiliation. i mean i definitely remember in detail the stuff that i had to go to hospital over but mostly i remember the lessons that all the abuse taught me.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 06:33 AM
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 06:45 AM
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Well...no, it actually made me relieved. I had read so much about "the only way out is thru" and the thought of trying to detail everything, or explain every incident was traumatizing in itself. The specialists I saw last year, when I went away for 2 weeks, said "you barely lived thru it the first time, why go thru it again". And I though...dang, you are right. I mean 18 years of at least weekly csa, physical, mental abuse...that's almost 1000 incidents...in an hour or two a week...I'd never get thru it all. Plus a lot of it runs together in my mind. My best bet is to grieve, say geeze that sucked, and try to put some semblance to my life that's left. Learning how to cope with the panic attacks, dissociation, flashbacks, nightmares...etc is my best bet. And gradually I am doing that. I am med-free, and currently t free...but I haven't si'd or really gone psychotic in almost 2 years. I have a life to live, and I'm going to live it...damitalltohell.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 06:49 AM
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BUT.... I am not saying it never comes up, or that I refuse to talk about it either. I am just not going into "trauma work" as they say. I will (and have) acknowledged things in T, and even given brief overviews of what happened. I just won't go into gory details or "re-tell" it. I did tell xt a few things, and had to ask him if I repulsed him after.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 06:57 AM
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Funny thing...
My niece likes to trace the letters on my tattoo with her tiny fingers. She thinks it says "I love [her name]" (it says unbreakable). She's getting older, and she's learning her letters and yesterday she said "hey, I don't see an S S I E, maybe you spelled it wrong". lol. I hope she doesn't hate me when she figures out what it really says.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 06:58 AM
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T tells me that by not talking about it, I'm keeping it alive...and that it's not fair for me to carry the burden of it by myself. He tells me that I will go from feeling demeaned, nauseated and injured to feeling angry to then feeling a sense of peace by going through this process. I don't see how that's going to happen, but I'm going to try to trust in the process. It just feels yucky at the moment, and that's to be expected. He said that I need to expect to feel awful for a few months and that we need to put a game plan together of how to deal with the craziness that comes from this work - what to do with my daughter so that I don't feel like a bad mom, how to tolerate and tackle the emotions, what to do at night when I feel so out of control. So much to consider. No wonder I've been putting this off.

And about retraumatizing....that's another issue. T tells me that we need to do this in a way that keeps me from feeling retraumatized. I'm not sure how that works. But one thing that seems clear to me now is that the anxiety, shutting down and dissociating that's occurred in group T are all signs that it was traumatizing for me to be there - but apparently that's because I avoided doing the real work involved in dealing with my fear of groups. We never made the connection before, so who knew? If I would've talked about my past trauma with T, then it would've been clear. Oh well.

My daughter was so tired when she got home. She just fell asleep and I started to doze off when my niece called me. Her calling me at this hour usually means she's upset and needs to talk to someone. So, I answered. Surprisingly, she just asked if she gave me the materials if I would make a bracelet for her that she wants. I'm glad it wasn't what I was expecting, cuz I'm too sleepy to be supportive to her at the moment.

I have a feeling that I'm not going to have any problems falling asleep tonight....staying asleep, not having nightmares or flashbacks...well, there's no guarantee there. *sigh*

Goodnight, couch peeps.
i find it hard to believe there would be another side that isnt yucky. so so much stuff.
i dont understand how it can be traumitizing to avoid talking about this stuff. it seems to me that as soon as i try to talk about stuff that is so painfull and brings up all these emotions and bad reactions that is traumitizing. especially if you are talking about it in the middle of a group of people
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 06:58 AM
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Morning couch.

Was too tired after C yesterday and came home and fell asleep. Then I got up and did some number crunching with how much I would make adding a day with C, vs. how much I need to survive the summer. I am down to being just under 15 bucks short. If the senior place gives me a few extra hours some weeks (which they have been doing), then I am set. Yay!

Took me almost an hour to catch up on the couch. I just read so much, I can't even remember who said what. I hate my memory sometimes. I hope that every one who is struggling has a better day today than they have been.

Someone was talking about driving in bad weather. I hate driving in the rain...as well as at night. It just stresses me out.

Well I need to go eat breakfast before heading to the senior place. Wonder what I will be doing today? Maybe watching K again...that is so "easy"...sit on my butt and get paid. :-P Though I think they said something about organizing their files today last time I was there. But there's no way that could take all 6 hours.

I hope everyone has a decent day. I will try to log on when I get home tonight...though I may be too tired... and I have to work with my dad tomorrow (T and I decided that it would be worth the money and I could just practice my assertiveness if he made any comments).
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 07:04 AM
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Well...no, it actually made me relieved. I had read so much about "the only way out is thru" and the thought of trying to detail everything, or explain every incident was traumatizing in itself. The specialists I saw last year, when I went away for 2 weeks, said "you barely lived thru it the first time, why go thru it again". And I though...dang, you are right. I mean 18 years of at least weekly csa, physical, mental abuse...that's almost 1000 incidents...in an hour or two a week...I'd never get thru it all. Plus a lot of it runs together in my mind. My best bet is to grieve, say geeze that sucked, and try to put some semblance to my life that's left. Learning how to cope with the panic attacks, dissociation, flashbacks, nightmares...etc is my best bet. And gradually I am doing that. I am med-free, and currently t free...but I haven't si'd or really gone psychotic in almost 2 years. I have a life to live, and I'm going to live it...damitalltohell.
that is what it is like for me .it all kind of runs all into eachother.not always clear. it was just life. in looking back at things it seems i have ages wrong when things went on. often younger then i thought .
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 07:06 AM
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Funny thing...
My niece likes to trace the letters on my tattoo with her tiny fingers. She thinks it says "I love [her name]" (it says unbreakable). She's getting older, and she's learning her letters and yesterday she said "hey, I don't see an S S I E, maybe you spelled it wrong". lol. I hope she doesn't hate me when she figures out what it really says.
she is so stinkin adorible wiki. i doubt she cant hate you at all
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 07:06 AM
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(((squirrel))) It warms my heart that you are so financially aware! To plot out your expenses and figure out precisely what you need is amazing. Good for you. I just wanted to say, try to plan for emergencies too. Get enough so that if you have an emergency (car breaking down, you get sick and miss work, acts of God...etc) it won't set you back too much. I usually tell people to start with one week's pay in a savings...and then gradually work your way up until you have a month's pay there (that could take years, I know). Seeing how organized you are, you probably have already thought of that...but I just wanted to make sure.
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