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Old Jun 13, 2013, 07:09 AM
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I’m into the third stage of grieving.
First I grieved over the separation.
Second I grieved over the impossibility of going back.
And now I’m grieving that I don’t even have a reason to go back.

Like, why was I even there?
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 07:12 AM
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that is what it is like for me .it all kind of runs all into eachother.not always clear. it was just life. in looking back at things it seems i have ages wrong when things went on. often younger then i thought .
Yea, exactly. I try to think...did I go to school the next day? What grade was I in? It's too crazy blurry...everything runs together. All I know is when I was 18, I got accepted into Brown and hightailed out of that hell hole, and never went back. We escaped Granite. We came out alive. We are strong.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 07:34 AM
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Morning couch friends...
I will have to catch up later.
Just wanted to say Hi.
T today over lunch hour. I am ready but also nervous. There is much to discuss....
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 07:36 AM
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We escaped Granite. We came out alive. We are strong.
Yes, you certainly are.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 07:37 AM
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Good luck to those who have T today!
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 07:40 AM
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Hey Mastodon...how did your appointment go today?
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 07:56 AM
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i find it hard to believe there would be another side that isnt yucky. so so much stuff.
i dont understand how it can be traumitizing to avoid talking about this stuff. it seems to me that as soon as i try to talk about stuff that is so painfull and brings up all these emotions and bad reactions that is traumitizing. especially if you are talking about it in the middle of a group of people
I hear ya, granite. I find it hard to believe too. My T says that by sharing it with others, it takes the burden of the secret off of my shoulders...and that when I share with others who care about me, they react differently than I would expect - and their feelings are much different than mine - causing a corrective emotional experience.

One of my biggest struggles is that people will view me as repulsive, dirty, unworthy, beneath them, etc. T tells me that my perception of how others view me are very different from reality, and that by experiencing the truth - that people don't view me that way - is important. The risk there is that some may actually view me the way I'd imagine - and that feels horrifying to me. He said that when I share painful experiences, I feel humiliated and shameful - while others feel empathy, caring, sadness and anger. I need to be able to allow their caring to sink in so that ultimately I can let go of some of the painful humiliation and absorb the more affirming things that are offered to me.

In theory, it sounds great. I just don't see how it works....and my fear is so great that others will judge me, criticize me, say things that would create more feelings of shame and humiliation - that it would destroy me.

I'd imagine at some point, I can get to a place where others reactions towards me don't affect my sense of self. That seems like a whole other hurdle.

I remember when I was trying to discontinue that unhealthy friendship with the woman who tried to run me over....she knew of some of my past and chose to throw it back in my face, blaming me. It was awful. Luckily, I was in a place where I was able to see that I didn't have to own that. It still hurt - and it's hard to take that risk with people.

I also don't see how talking about my past is necessary in relationships that I have now. It's in the past. But T believes that meaningful relationships involve this type of thing, because we react in ways that show that we are not aware of the impact our history has on us. Bringing those things to awareness with others has the potential to help the relationships we have with others. Otherwise, they are left in the dark not knowing why we react the way we do sometimes.

It's all so complicated. I can't seem to wrap my head around it at the moment. I'm just trying to keep my head above water and go with the flow.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:00 AM
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Oh, and T doesn't encourage just re-telling the story. That's only a part of it. His approach is more about how we feel about ourselves in the moment....so, how do we feel about the re-telling...expressing those feelings and working through those feelings is what's important.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:00 AM
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Alright, couch peeps....I'm on a cleaning mission....
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:17 AM
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Hey Mastodon...how did your appointment go today?
Thanks for asking - it went well. It's really difficult, but hey, that's therapy...
I feel ashamed to talk about it in terms of being difficult though, seeing what the rest of you are struggling with.

Memorable moment:
T: So you are saying that [x] will never happen?
Apt: No, never.
T: *raises eyebrows*
Apt: Well, hardly ever.
T: *loses composure*
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:21 AM
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Darn it all. I need to paint something I've been working on for the wall in the great room, but I can't find the box that contains my brushes and acrylics. Gads...there is about a dozen boxes in the basement that haven't been unpacked. Several are just keepsakes and xmass stuff...but where the heck are my art supplies? Looks like it'll have to wait until I can either get hubby to find them or make a trip to AC Moore's.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:22 AM
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Thanks for asking - it went well. It's really difficult, but hey, that's therapy...
I feel ashamed to talk about it in terms of being difficult though, seeing what the rest of you are struggling with.

Memorable moment:
T: So you are saying that [x] will never happen?
Apt: No, never.
T: *raises eyebrows*
Apt: Well, hardly ever.
T: *loses composure*
therapy is so hard mastodon .you dont need to feel bad at all for having it be dificult.
OMG what do you mean T loses composure?
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:22 AM
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Thanks for asking - it went well. It's really difficult, but hey, that's therapy...
I feel ashamed to talk about it in terms of being difficult though, seeing what the rest of you are struggling with.

Memorable moment:
T: So you are saying that [x] will never happen?
Apt: No, never.
T: *raises eyebrows*
Apt: Well, hardly ever.
T: *loses composure*
Your stuff is as hard as anyone else's. No shame!!!

And that conversation is a riot.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:23 AM
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Darn it all. I need to paint something I've been working on for the wall in the great room, but I can't find the box that contains my brushes and acrylics. Gads...there is about a dozen boxes in the basement that haven't been unpacked. Several are just keepsakes and xmass stuff...but where the heck are my art supplies? Looks like it'll have to wait until I can either get hubby to find them or make a trip to AC Moore's.
i would never pass up a reason to go to ac moore's lol use a 40% off michaels coupon lol
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:27 AM
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Moore's is so much cheaper than Michael's...and have you seen the new JoAnn's? They still have great material, but their craft stuff is extremely expensive.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:30 AM
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You know....I *think* I put my paint in my portfolio bag with extra canvas'...it's only 5 tubes, primary colors because I mix my own color. Maybe it's not in a box at all...hmmmmm...
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:32 AM
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If I were a large black zip up portfolio, where would I be?
hmmmm.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:34 AM
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therapy is so hard mastodon .you dont need to feel bad at all for having it be dificult.
OMG what do you mean T loses composure?
Thanks, granite

I meant that he lost his calm expression and laughed when I unexpectedly started quoting Gilbert and Sullivan at him.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:37 AM
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If I were a large black zip up portfolio, where would I be?
hmmmm.
At that place that makes the great soy lattes (if I remember correctly)
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:38 AM
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I wish the one I see knew G and S. One time, when she was denying her wiliness, I went into "With Cat-like tread upon our prey we steal..." and she had no clue.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:41 AM
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At that place that makes the great soy lattes (if I remember correctly)
Ah...Starbucks...yes, better than painting! Good idea!
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I wish the one I see knew G and S. One time, when she was denying her wiliness, I went into "With Cat-like tread upon our prey we steal..." and she had no clue.
You must educate her. Any therapist worth their salt would know G & S.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:43 AM
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I am not handing her money to educate her. Plus it would take forever if we threw in her lack of being well-read.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:48 AM
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she's not well read?
Good god, stopdog, how do you even converse with the woman?
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 08:52 AM
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It is a constant challenge. Such a challenge that right now, I have requested that she not talk unless she wants to ask a question. Her talking does not help me. Literary allusion to her is like therapy speak is to me.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 09:03 AM
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ok...walking down to Starbucks..(thanks apt!) then I really MUST figure out what I am going to do today. Since I can't paint, I am thinking I'll have to work. Arg.
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