Home Menu

Menu


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old Jan 17, 2014, 01:52 AM
AllyIsHopeful AllyIsHopeful is offline
Poohbah
 
Member Since: Dec 2013
Location: ....
Posts: 1,238
Is it possible for someone to have BPD and also be highly functioning in life? Without ever undergoing treatment for it?
For example: maintain a job, get along with most coworkers, maintain school (grades, hw, attendance, etc.), and have at least a handful of healthy relationships?

This confuses me a bit. I know I am not the only one, because I have done so much reading on this subject and many are misdiagnosed and even people who are diagnosed as Borderline fail to fully understand their disorder.

In my opinion it is one of the trickiest diagnoses out there for therapists/psychs.
It seems to be the "catch all" diagnosis when all others don't quite fit.
__________________
<3Ally

  • Clinophobia
  • MDD
  • GAD
Thanks for this!
rainbow8

advertisement
  #2  
Old Jan 17, 2014, 02:08 AM
Nightlight's Avatar
Nightlight Nightlight is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: Mar 2010
Location: On the edge
Posts: 1,782
It's nothing something I can relate to in terms of a particular diagnosis. Though when I was younger I felt very opposite to descriptions of BPD, but I've realised that even though I never present that way, some of my thinking is not dissimilar to what fits a BPD diagnosis.

I think a diagnosis can help in some ways, but they are so far from perfect. There are many ways that I fit the diagnosis given to me...and quite a few ways that I don't. I feel like a diagnosis can give some guidance about treatment, but so much more depends on the individual.

So I think it’s easily possible that someone fits enough of the categories of one diagnosis to be given that particular diagnosis while still being very different from that diagnosis in many ways as well.
Thanks for this!
AllyIsHopeful
  #3  
Old Jan 17, 2014, 02:59 AM
CantExplain's Avatar
CantExplain CantExplain is offline
Big Poppa
 
Member Since: Oct 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 19,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopelessly Hopeful View Post
Is it possible for someone to have BPD and also be highly functioning in life? Without ever undergoing treatment for it?
For example: maintain a job, get along with most coworkers, maintain school (grades, hw, attendance, etc.), and have at least a handful of healthy relationships?

This confuses me a bit. I know I am not the only one, because I have done so much reading on this subject and many are misdiagnosed and even people who are diagnosed as Borderline fail to fully understand their disorder.

In my opinion it is one of the trickiest diagnoses out there for therapists/psychs.
It seems to be the "catch all" diagnosis when all others don't quite fit.
An intelligent and motivated person can sometimes overcome (or at least mask) things that would otherwise set them apart. It can be very hard work, though.
__________________
Mr Ambassador, alias Ancient Plax, alias Captain Therapy, alias Big Poppa, alias Secret Spy, etc.

Add that to your tattoo, Baby!
Thanks for this!
AllyIsHopeful
  #4  
Old Jan 17, 2014, 03:07 AM
IndieVisible's Avatar
IndieVisible IndieVisible is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: Aug 2013
Location: NYS
Posts: 1,872
There are highly functional BPD but usually they also share some other personality traits such as NPD too.
__________________
Follow me on Twitter @PsychoManiaNews
Thanks for this!
AllyIsHopeful
  #5  
Old Jan 17, 2014, 04:11 AM
ScrewedUpMe ScrewedUpMe is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 394
It depends what you call functioning I guess. I have BPD and I did well in school, managed to get a university degree (though I struggled with alot of issues throughout), have a husband and children and have had had reasonable jobs using my degree. However I haven't worked full time in about 12 years due to not being able to cope with the stress and unpredictability of my symptoms. T says that I am a high functioning BPD. I don't think it makes the symptoms any less intense though, you're just better at masking it.
Hugs from:
AllyIsHopeful, Aloneandafraid, CantExplain
Thanks for this!
AllyIsHopeful, Aloneandafraid, rainbow8
  #6  
Old Jan 17, 2014, 08:48 AM
Moodswing's Avatar
Moodswing Moodswing is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Oct 2012
Location: New England
Posts: 559
There are spectrum's of BPD. I am on the low end meaning I am high functioning. I hold a job and have been married for 11 years. I never had any treatment up until last year. Did not even know my problem was BPD but my cPTSD gives me more problems. I actually sought help for my bulimia. I am serious issues that cause me serious problems but still manage to be a productive member of society. I can only imagine what an amazing success I could have been without these disorders.
Hugs from:
CantExplain
Thanks for this!
AllyIsHopeful, Aloneandafraid
  #7  
Old Jan 17, 2014, 10:06 AM
Asiablue's Avatar
Asiablue Asiablue is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Member Since: Apr 2011
Location: in her own dark fairytale
Posts: 3,086
I've never been formally diagnosed with BPD but i think i have a ton of the symptoms and it has been alluded to by several therapists. I mask it all very very well, something i had to do growing up, i can tell when my thinking is just off the wall about things and i know my natural overreaction to things would be frowned upon and i'd lose people or be disliked and that is a very strong pull for me, so i store it all inside instead. I have managed to have a very positive very secure and loving marriage free of all the BPD stuff but i'm not so secure with friendships or women in general. And the therapy relationship is absolutely horrendous for me, my insecurity, fear of abandonment, love and hate extremes, etc etc are in full flow. But that is the only place the full extent of the BPD comes out. I think it's because i need to be vulnerable in that room, and because it is somewhat a parental dynamic which really threatens me.
__________________
INFP Introvert(67%) iNtuitive(50%) iNtuitive Feeling(75%) Perceiving(44)%
Hugs from:
Aloneandafraid
Thanks for this!
AllyIsHopeful, Aloneandafraid, ScrewedUpMe
  #8  
Old Jan 17, 2014, 11:01 AM
rainbow8's Avatar
rainbow8 rainbow8 is offline
Legendary
 
Member Since: Mar 2009
Location: US
Posts: 13,284
I didn't start therapy until I was in my 30's. Being diagnosed BPD was a shock to me as I had stable relationships, didn't SI, binge, or anything like that. I'm married, have children and grandchildren. I have a master's degree. I always worked in low paying jobs in spite of my degree, so that may be due to the BPD. The T's I saw always said I was high functioning. It was primarily my attachments issues with my Ts, and family history that led to the diagnosis.
Hugs from:
Aloneandafraid
Thanks for this!
AllyIsHopeful, Aloneandafraid
  #9  
Old Jan 17, 2014, 07:49 PM
Chopin99's Avatar
Chopin99 Chopin99 is offline
Elder
 
Member Since: Dec 2009
Location: Southeastern US
Posts: 5,221
It is very possible. I had a diagnosis of BPD and was able to hide it very well at school, work, community, church, etc. However, it was ripping my relationships (and me) apart, so I sought treatment which was very effective. It's been 10 years since I first sought treatment and I have not carried a diagnosis of BPD for 5 years.
__________________
Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have imagined. - Henry David Thoreau
Hugs from:
CantExplain
Thanks for this!
AllyIsHopeful
  #10  
Old Jan 17, 2014, 08:00 PM
Favorite Jeans's Avatar
Favorite Jeans Favorite Jeans is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: Jun 2013
Location: In my head
Posts: 1,787
Usually in order for something to meet diagnostic criteria in psychiatry, the problem needs to be severe enough that it significantly interferes with a person's ability to function. Otherwise the features of the disorder are just "traits". So you can say that someone has borderline traits without having a full blown personality disorder. Another example: maybe someone is a little compulsive about handwashing but they are able to work and have friends and go out and not need medical attention for their raw hands and they can tolerate their anxiety if there's no sink nearby. You could say that they have obsessive-compulsive traits but they don't meet the criteria for the disorder.

I've noticed that a lot of T's play fast and loose with diagnostic terminology. IMHO this is generally to the detriment of the client. I think it's usually better, especially with personality disorders, to describe the problematic thought process, behaviour or pattern that it is to slap a label on it.
Thanks for this!
AllyIsHopeful, unlockingsanity
  #11  
Old Jan 17, 2014, 08:39 PM
CantExplain's Avatar
CantExplain CantExplain is offline
Big Poppa
 
Member Since: Oct 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 19,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chopin99 View Post
It is very possible. I had a diagnosis of BPD and was able to hide it very well at school, work, community, church, etc. However, it was ripping my relationships (and me) apart, so I sought treatment which was very effective. It's been 10 years since I first sought treatment and I have not carried a diagnosis of BPD for 5 years.
Yay! Great to hear.
__________________
Mr Ambassador, alias Ancient Plax, alias Captain Therapy, alias Big Poppa, alias Secret Spy, etc.

Add that to your tattoo, Baby!
Thanks for this!
Chopin99
  #12  
Old Jan 18, 2014, 03:46 AM
AllyIsHopeful AllyIsHopeful is offline
Poohbah
 
Member Since: Dec 2013
Location: ....
Posts: 1,238
That's awesome, congrats!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chopin99 View Post
It is very possible. I had a diagnosis of BPD and was able to hide it very well at school, work, community, church, etc. However, it was ripping my relationships (and me) apart, so I sought treatment which was very effective. It's been 10 years since I first sought treatment and I have not carried a diagnosis of BPD for 5 years.
__________________
<3Ally

  • Clinophobia
  • MDD
  • GAD
  #13  
Old Jan 18, 2014, 03:48 AM
AllyIsHopeful AllyIsHopeful is offline
Poohbah
 
Member Since: Dec 2013
Location: ....
Posts: 1,238
That's how I feel at times. I have had several jobs and it always seems to be the "same problems" with every job. It's great for a little while, then I begin to feel overwhelmed with the work or amount of time required to put in and eventually run away from it. My T has wondered if I have BPD but eventually out-ruled it. My pDoc never thought I had it in the first place.
It's all so confusing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScrewedUpMe View Post
It depends what you call functioning I guess. I have BPD and I did well in school, managed to get a university degree (though I struggled with alot of issues throughout), have a husband and children and have had had reasonable jobs using my degree. However I haven't worked full time in about 12 years due to not being able to cope with the stress and unpredictability of my symptoms. T says that I am a high functioning BPD. I don't think it makes the symptoms any less intense though, you're just better at masking it.
__________________
<3Ally

  • Clinophobia
  • MDD
  • GAD
  #14  
Old Jan 18, 2014, 03:54 AM
AllyIsHopeful AllyIsHopeful is offline
Poohbah
 
Member Since: Dec 2013
Location: ....
Posts: 1,238
Oh gosh, I couldn't agree more with this. They are TOO quick to slap a diagnosis in order to have some sort of foundation to map out a "treatment" plan for you. In reality, one diagnosis doesn't fit all. I believe I have BPD tendencies at times, but I also tend to fall under Avoidant Personality. Also, if you look at the DSM for MDD, a lot of the traits are confusingly similar to BPD. So how do they know I'm not just extremely depressed? There's no way of really knowing unless they monitor me 24/7.
In my experience, when my T mentioned she had been concerned that I had BPD, but no longer felt that way, I fell apart. She had no idea it affected me this way and I didn't either until I was processing it in the days following that session. I got to the point where I became so suicidal because my research on BPD and trying to understand it, destroyed me. Everything online makes treatment seem extremely difficult and even impossible for BPD. I felt like it was a "behavioral death sentence".

Quote:
Originally Posted by Favorite Jeans View Post
Usually in order for something to meet diagnostic criteria in psychiatry, the problem needs to be severe enough that it significantly interferes with a person's ability to function. Otherwise the features of the disorder are just "traits". So you can say that someone has borderline traits without having a full blown personality disorder. Another example: maybe someone is a little compulsive about handwashing but they are able to work and have friends and go out and not need medical attention for their raw hands and they can tolerate their anxiety if there's no sink nearby. You could say that they have obsessive-compulsive traits but they don't meet the criteria for the disorder.

I've noticed that a lot of T's play fast and loose with diagnostic terminology. IMHO this is generally to the detriment of the client. I think it's usually better, especially with personality disorders, to describe the problematic thought process, behaviour or pattern that it is to slap a label on it.
__________________
<3Ally

  • Clinophobia
  • MDD
  • GAD
Reply
Views: 1425

attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:07 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.




 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.