Home Menu

Menu


Closed Thread
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #701  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 03:33 PM
catonyx's Avatar
catonyx catonyx is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: Nov 2014
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,780
Quote:
Originally Posted by NowhereUSA View Post
What day? Not familiar with this.
It's a social media campaign by Bell Canada in which they donate 5cents to mental health initiatives for every tweet with #bellletstalk or share of their image on facebook. They donate from phone calls too... Not sure how much exactly. I don't have a Bell phone... but I do participate in the social media side of it.
__________________
Until I fall away
I don't know what to do anymore.

advertisement
  #702  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 03:48 PM
unaluna's Avatar
unaluna unaluna is offline
Elder Harridan x-hankster
 
Member Since: Jun 2011
Location: Milan/Michigan
Posts: 42,276
Quote:
Originally Posted by NowhereUSA View Post
People say they like me. The problem is I don't much like myself. Bah.
I feel like i have the opposite problem.
  #703  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 04:03 PM
JustShakey's Avatar
JustShakey JustShakey is offline
WON'T!!!
 
Member Since: May 2014
Location: Arizona
Posts: 4,576
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mastodon View Post
Intimacy is not a necessary part of any relationship.

Ah. There we disagree.

But, yanno, such is life

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
'...
At poor peace I sing
To you strangers (though song
Is a burning and crested act,
The fire of birds in
The world's turning wood,
For my sawn, splay sounds,)
...'
Dylan Thomas, Author's Prologue
  #704  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 04:15 PM
Anonymous200320
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I make no pronouncement about whether intimacy is desirable or not. I know nothing about that. I am not saying that no relationships should contain intimacy. I am saying that it is not a necessary component of a relationship. Since I speak from experience, I don't see where the disagreement could exist. It is a fact that relationships without intimacy exist, and hence it is not a necessary component.

I am going to stay away for a bit, so no need to respond to this.
  #705  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 04:53 PM
JustShakey's Avatar
JustShakey JustShakey is offline
WON'T!!!
 
Member Since: May 2014
Location: Arizona
Posts: 4,576
Sorry if I upset you Mast. We just disagree on the subject. That's alright. Be an awful boring world if everyone agreed on everything, all the time.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
'...
At poor peace I sing
To you strangers (though song
Is a burning and crested act,
The fire of birds in
The world's turning wood,
For my sawn, splay sounds,)
...'
Dylan Thomas, Author's Prologue
  #706  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 05:09 PM
catonyx's Avatar
catonyx catonyx is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: Nov 2014
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,780
My toddler just woke up from her nap and I can hear her saying "Mommy come put my socks on my feet are naked." Too cute.
__________________
Until I fall away
I don't know what to do anymore.
Thanks for this!
CantExplain, Ellahmae
  #707  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 05:52 PM
Anonymous37844
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Toddlers are too cute. My eldest wanted an elephant for a pet tostay in her room. When I tried to point out an elephant wouldn't fit up the stairs she said "well a giraffe woould, can I have giraffe then?" THing is a giraffe would fit up the stairs.. Naked ffeet lol
Thanks for this!
unaluna
  #708  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 06:10 PM
catonyx's Avatar
catonyx catonyx is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: Nov 2014
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,780
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bipolarartist View Post
Toddlers are too cute. My eldest wanted an elephant for a pet tostay in her room. When I tried to point out an elephant wouldn't fit up the stairs she said "well a giraffe woould, can I have giraffe then?" THing is a giraffe would fit up the stairs.. Naked ffeet lol

LOL! That's cute. It's so funny what they say. I started a journal for my toddler on her first birthday. Since she started talking I have been writing quotes of what she says in it. I figure I will give it to her when she gets married. I've got one for my baby girl too, but I haven't started it yet and obviously she doesn't talk yet.
__________________
Until I fall away
I don't know what to do anymore.
Thanks for this!
unaluna
  #709  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 06:12 PM
catonyx's Avatar
catonyx catonyx is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: Nov 2014
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,780
I just spent half an hour trying to change two of my cartilage piercing earrings. I just couldn't get one of them in for some reason. Then I couldn't get the ball to stay. Silly thing. At least it's done now. I can leave them for another 5 years.
__________________
Until I fall away
I don't know what to do anymore.
  #710  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 06:15 PM
CantExplain's Avatar
CantExplain CantExplain is offline
Big Poppa
 
Member Since: Oct 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 19,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mastodon View Post
Intimacy is not a necessary part of any relationship.
You seem to be channelling Stopdog this week.
I hope you're OK.

__________________
Mr Ambassador, alias Ancient Plax, alias Captain Therapy, alias Big Poppa, alias Secret Spy, etc.

Add that to your tattoo, Baby!
  #711  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 06:39 PM
stopdog stopdog is offline
underdog is here
 
Member Since: Sep 2011
Location: blank
Posts: 35,154
Quote:
Originally Posted by CantExplain View Post
You seem to be channelling Stopdog this week.
I hope you're OK.

I consider myself intimate with the appropriate people. I am not intimate with a therapist, but my partner is someone with whom I would say I have appropriate intimacy. I would not, on my own, call the situation with a therapist a relationship either. So there is that too.
__________________
Please NO @

Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live.
Oscar Wilde
Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
Thanks for this!
CantExplain
  #712  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 06:44 PM
Anonymous37844
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Why did I say i'd speak to the ex on Friday. Thats right because I've got a doctors appt as an excuse to leave. All I'm doing is working myself into a panic about it. Need more distractions....
Hugs from:
CantExplain
  #713  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 06:45 PM
StressedMess's Avatar
StressedMess StressedMess is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Member Since: Jul 2014
Location: Usa
Posts: 3,068
Yesterday I channeled my inner SD due to snarky school officials and it felt fantastic! What's so scary about being assertive? Well, that whole backbone-dissolving phenomenon. . .
Hugs from:
CantExplain
Thanks for this!
JustShakey, stopdog
  #714  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 06:47 PM
StressedMess's Avatar
StressedMess StressedMess is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Member Since: Jul 2014
Location: Usa
Posts: 3,068
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bipolarartist View Post
Why did I say i'd speak to the ex on Friday. Thats right because I've got a doctors appt as an excuse to leave. All I'm doing is working myself into a panic about it. Need more distractions....

Hugs!! I'm the same way in dealing with all my exes. The working yourself into a panic, the needing a valid reason to get away, all of it. I'm so sorry!!
Thanks for this!
CantExplain
  #715  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 08:25 PM
Anonymous100300
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
"Relationships". " intimacy" these are words people use but I think people have different meanings assigned to them.

Websters dictionary defines relationship as ": the way in which two or more people, groups, countries, etc., talk to, behave toward, and deal with each other" so in this manner we have a relationship with lots of people in our daily lives

Websters for English speaking learners defines intimacy as:
: having a very close relationship : very warm and friendly
an intimate acquaintance
They remained intimate friends throughout their lives.
We have an intimate friendship with our neighbors. = We are on intimate terms with our neighbors. [=we are very close friends with our neighbors]
2
: very personal or private
intimate thoughts/feelings
intimate secrets
sharing an intimate moment
[+] more examples
3
: involving sex or sexual relations
They are in an intimate and committed relationship.
He denies that they were ever intimate. = He denies that he was ever intimate with her. [=that he ever had sexual relations with her]

My point is people can say one thing and someone else can hear something completely different.

I think other languages do a better job of having different or more specific words like the Greek words for types of love.
Thanks for this!
catonyx, JustShakey, unaluna
  #716  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 09:44 PM
StressedMess's Avatar
StressedMess StressedMess is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Member Since: Jul 2014
Location: Usa
Posts: 3,068
I have intimate platonic relationships and I've had very superficial non-platonic relationships. I think true intimacy, knowing someone (and allowing them to know you) soul-deep is terrifying. That's where pain comes from, allowing another person access to your innermost desires fears and feelings. I much prefer the superficial type at this stage in my life.
Thanks for this!
JustShakey
  #717  
Old Jan 28, 2015, 09:58 PM
unaluna's Avatar
unaluna unaluna is offline
Elder Harridan x-hankster
 
Member Since: Jun 2011
Location: Milan/Michigan
Posts: 42,276
I keep playing over in my mind a date i had in tenth grade. The boy's mother made us a sandwich. THAT was too intimate for me! If i ever asked my mother for a sandwich, i would be looking for trouble. What kind of a mother makes a sandwich for their kid and his date?? Way too personal for me. I was accustomed to being completely ignored and not having anywhere in the house to entertain a date. The opposite of intimacy.

So yeah i met my soulmate in high school, but i messed it up. Ever since then, ive been like, why cant i meet someone interested in the things i like?? He was that person, but i couldnt handle it emotionally. I was my mothers daughter. He saw me, but i couldnt stand being seen.

Eta - so now, at least i can CONSIDER that someone might like me the way he did, that not everyone is as cold and rejecting as my family, my exes, etc. I feel like at least now, i know where or how to look.
Hugs from:
Anonymous37917, CantExplain, growlycat
Thanks for this!
JustShakey, StressedMess
  #718  
Old Jan 29, 2015, 02:04 AM
Anonymous200320
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mastodon View Post
[...]I speak from experience, [...] It is a fact that relationships without intimacy exist, and hence it is not a necessary component.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustShakey View Post
Sorry if I upset you Mast. We just disagree on the subject. That's alright.
I tell you that I speak from my own experience and you say that you don't agree. It would be very easy to draw the conclusion that you think I'm lying, but I think that you are just assuming that I'm denying your personal preference - which is definitely not the case.

Again, I am only talking about the actual factual necessity. Not about anybody's individual opinion. It is exactly the same thing as if somebody talks about a spouse as being either male or female, and a heterosexual male saying that he does not agree that a spouse can be male, since for him it could not be an option.

I have not said a single word about my own preferences or whether I think it is better or worse to have intimacy (in any sense of the word, as defined by RTS) in any kind of relationship. That is irrelevant to the discussion, and not interesting to anybody but myself (and maybe to any hypothetical people I might have a very intimate relationship with).

Quote:
Originally Posted by CantExplain View Post
You seem to be channelling Stopdog this week.
I hope you're OK.
I am not ok. That's why I can allow myself to be honest. I am a hateful person so why pretend otherwise?

RTS discussed different meanings of "intimacy" and "relationship. It is my PERSONAL EXPERIENCE that every kind of relationship that I have experienced is perfectly possible to carry on without involving any one of the types of intimacy listed. I'm not sure how I can express myself more clearly.
Hugs from:
CantExplain
  #719  
Old Jan 29, 2015, 02:12 AM
growlycat's Avatar
growlycat growlycat is offline
Therapy Ninja
 
Member Since: Jan 2007
Location: How did I get here?
Posts: 10,308
The answer is: (Couch) 84. The question is...

had to share a random cat couch pic
Thanks for this!
CantExplain, catonyx, Ellahmae, unaluna
  #720  
Old Jan 29, 2015, 02:14 AM
stopdog stopdog is offline
underdog is here
 
Member Since: Sep 2011
Location: blank
Posts: 35,154
Do you want intimacy and don't have it or do you simply not want it? Does it just not happen or or do you have to actively prevent it?
I am usually fine with the levels I have. Sometimes people have wanted more from me.
__________________
Please NO @

Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live.
Oscar Wilde
Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
  #721  
Old Jan 29, 2015, 02:15 AM
unaluna's Avatar
unaluna unaluna is offline
Elder Harridan x-hankster
 
Member Since: Jun 2011
Location: Milan/Michigan
Posts: 42,276
That looks like a VERY good couch
Thanks for this!
catonyx, growlycat
  #722  
Old Jan 29, 2015, 02:19 AM
unaluna's Avatar
unaluna unaluna is offline
Elder Harridan x-hankster
 
Member Since: Jun 2011
Location: Milan/Michigan
Posts: 42,276
Quote:
Originally Posted by stopdog View Post
Do you want intimacy and don't have it or do you simply not want it? Does it just not happen or or do you have to actively prevent it?
I am usually fine with the levels I have. Sometimes people have wanted more from me.
Can i answer that? I get offered red licorice when i really prefer real, authentic black licorice. I'd rather have no licorice at all then.
  #723  
Old Jan 29, 2015, 02:20 AM
Anonymous200320
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Readytostop View Post
My point is people can say one thing and someone else can hear something completely different.
Indeed. And that's why I have a job

Quote:
Originally Posted by Readytostop View Post
I think other languages do a better job of having different or more specific words like the Greek words for types of love.
Yes, English is a very blunt instrument when it comes to discussing this. But it is possible to do so - some people have sometimes claimed that it is impossible to discuss things that there is no lexical word for in your language. (Usually that claim has been made about "primitive" peoples.) But just because English has no term for "to rub snow in someone's face" it doesn't mean that nobody ever talks about it... (Swedish has 96 words for that. Different dialectal words, that is.)
Thanks for this!
unaluna
  #724  
Old Jan 29, 2015, 02:33 AM
stopdog stopdog is offline
underdog is here
 
Member Since: Sep 2011
Location: blank
Posts: 35,154
Quote:
Originally Posted by hankster View Post
Can i answer that? I get offered red licorice when i really prefer real, authentic black licorice. I'd rather have no licorice at all then.
Pardon? I don't know what this means.
__________________
Please NO @

Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live.
Oscar Wilde
Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
  #725  
Old Jan 29, 2015, 02:52 AM
Anonymous200320
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by stopdog View Post
Do you want intimacy and don't have it or do you simply not want it? Does it just not happen or or do you have to actively prevent it?
I am usually fine with the levels I have. Sometimes people have wanted more from me.
For me it is generally not an option. I have one friend I would call intimate.

I imagine all people are, at some time or another, dissatisfied with levels of intimacy. Such levels can be too high or too low for everybody, I assume. What is considered intimate is very much a cultural thing, too. Religious beliefs is a super private thing here, for instance, but in some other countries it is something that can be shared publicly.
Thanks for this!
CantExplain
Closed Thread
Views: 59102

attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:00 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.




 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.