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Old Mar 05, 2015, 03:13 PM
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I'm wondering what other people's experiences have been with admitting to their therapist they had high suicidal intent (i.e. they are going to do it).
We just past the five anniversary of my only suicide attempt and I often wonder what would have happened if I would have just called my T that night and told I was going to hurt myself.
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Old Mar 05, 2015, 03:44 PM
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They would send you to a hospital.

That happened to me this January. She spent 2 hours trying to get me to promise her that I will come back the next day (it was the weekend which she normally doesn't work then) but I couldn't. So she got my mom to sign a contract saying that I would be safe at home, but as soon as I got home I ran away, because I was going to do what I said and then after talking to my mom on the phone for a while, I returned home and went to the hospital.
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Old Mar 05, 2015, 03:46 PM
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I admitted it to mine and was given the choice of going on my own to the hospital or he wasn't going to call the sheriff's office. I chose to go in on my own. It's one of the best choices that I have made and probably saved my life.
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Old Mar 05, 2015, 03:49 PM
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They would send you to a hospital.

That happened to me this January. She spent 2 hours trying to get me to promise her that I will come back the next day (it was the weekend which she normally doesn't work then) but I couldn't. So she got my mom to sign a contract saying that I would be safe at home, but as soon as I got home I ran away, because I was going to do what I said and then after talking to my mom on the phone for a while, I returned home and went to the hospital.
Ya, I remember you talking about that on here. How are you doing now?
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I admitted it to mine and was given the choice of going on my own to the hospital or he wasn't going to call the sheriff's office. I chose to go in on my own. It's one of the best choices that I have made and probably saved my life.
I'm glad it helped you out so much.
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He asked me where I am and told me to go to hospital and he was mad.
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Mine would have me admit myself to the hospital. I've had to do so several times and it was always the right thing to do for me. I made it through. So glad I did. There are fates much worse than the hospital. My pdoc would have done the same. They were never mad, just highly concerned for my safety and well-being which for them comes off as firm, yet supportive.
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Old Mar 05, 2015, 04:03 PM
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He asked me where I am and told me to go to hospital and he was mad.
Well that was rude of him.
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Mine would have me admit myself to the hospital. I've had to do so several times and it was always the right thing to do for me. I made it through. So glad I did. There are fates much worse than the hospital. My pdoc would have done the same. They were never mad, just highly concerned for my safety and well-being which for them comes off as firm, yet supportive.
I'm glad it was the right thing for you.
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Last winter I had suicidal thoughts for two weeks that were very strong and scary. I never told anyone, because I didn't want to risk being misdiagnosed (again) and end up in the hospital.
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Old Mar 05, 2015, 04:32 PM
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I think if you are high risk and calling your T right before planning to commit, s/he would be calling 9-1-1 from another phone line. Ethically, I believe s/he has to anyway. I can't imagine a T. (or anyone) taking a chance at losing someone, especially since they know how haunting that will be to them for the rest of their life.

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PrevT said something like, "We need to make some decisions, then, on keeping you safe."

Which meant...either I voluntarily admit myself to the hospital or she was going to make me go.

With CurrentT, I have only talked around suicide. She contracted with me to promise I would not hurt myself and that I would show up at next appointment.

But if I told her, "I'm going to do it." Im sure I would end up in the hospital.
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Old Mar 05, 2015, 05:21 PM
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he would give me the ultimatum of going voluntarily or him calling the police. both have happened before

i dont feel suicidal much these days so...i think we are past those hard moments
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Two months ago I had quite a few bad suicidal thoughts, thanks to the support here I managed to call my T and tell her. She saw me that same day, and she helped me by adjusting meds, going through my coping skills and so on. We discussed going to the hospital, but I was really scared and not at immediate risk so she let me go home. However the deal was I had to call her before harming myself in any way and she wanted to see me the following, to make sure I was ok.

Things are slowly going back to normal with sessions every 3 weeks at the moment. I feel like that's what I need as I cope well on my own for 2 weeks, and the thrid one is difficult, but not unmanageable.
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Ya, I remember you talking about that on here. How are you doing now?
Ehh. I am pretty manic and my birthday is coming up and I am determined not to get older, lol :P
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My T has a pretty long patience. If he can at least guarantee my safety, he'll let me go. I just got out of a week of inpatient. In this case, he was ready to call an ambulance have me taken because he couldn't guarantee my safety. As it were, he took my means and called my H (it was that or an ambulance) and made sure I got in with my Pdoc the next day. From there it was either I take myself or I go on a psychiatric hold.

I've seen my T for six years and I've expressed suicidal intent before. I haven't processed it with him yet, but I suspect that this is the first time he didn't think he could talk me down.
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Because I know that it would mean going IP, I've made it clear there were no plans. Even then, they can get high pressured about it.

I'm pretty much 100% sure if I said I had a plan, my therapist would tell me to go IP. They don't mess around with that stuff.
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I just got out of a week inpatient. I was in php and had a plan but no intent. However they said I was decompensating and they couldn't trust me so they said I either sign myself into the hospital or they would do it involuntarily.

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Last winter I had suicidal thoughts for two weeks that were very strong and scary. I never told anyone, because I didn't want to risk being misdiagnosed (again) and end up in the hospital.
I'm sorry you were feeling like that. It can so tough to go about that alone. How are you doing now?
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I think if you are high risk and calling your T right before planning to commit, s/he would be calling 9-1-1 from another phone line. Ethically, I believe s/he has to anyway. I can't imagine a T. (or anyone) taking a chance at losing someone, especially since they know how haunting that will be to them for the rest of their life.

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PrevT said something like, "We need to make some decisions, then, on keeping you safe."

Which meant...either I voluntarily admit myself to the hospital or she was going to make me go.

With CurrentT, I have only talked around suicide. She contracted with me to promise I would not hurt myself and that I would show up at next appointment.

But if I told her, "I'm going to do it." Im sure I would end up in the hospital.
Ya, what you previous T said sounds like something my second T would have said.
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Old Mar 06, 2015, 01:53 PM
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he would give me the ultimatum of going voluntarily or him calling the police. both have happened before

i dont feel suicidal much these days so...i think we are past those hard moments
I'm glad you're feeling better. Ya, I've read your other posts in which you talked about what lead you to going to the hospital.
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Two months ago I had quite a few bad suicidal thoughts, thanks to the support here I managed to call my T and tell her. She saw me that same day, and she helped me by adjusting meds, going through my coping skills and so on. We discussed going to the hospital, but I was really scared and not at immediate risk so she let me go home. However the deal was I had to call her before harming myself in any way and she wanted to see me the following, to make sure I was ok.

Things are slowly going back to normal with sessions every 3 weeks at the moment. I feel like that's what I need as I cope well on my own for 2 weeks, and the thrid one is difficult, but not unmanageable.
I'm glad that worked out for you though I am surprised your T didn't send you to the hospital.
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My T has a pretty long patience. If he can at least guarantee my safety, he'll let me go. I just got out of a week of inpatient. In this case, he was ready to call an ambulance have me taken because he couldn't guarantee my safety. As it were, he took my means and called my H (it was that or an ambulance) and made sure I got in with my Pdoc the next day. From there it was either I take myself or I go on a psychiatric hold.

I've seen my T for six years and I've expressed suicidal intent before. I haven't processed it with him yet, but I suspect that this is the first time he didn't think he could talk me down.
Hopefully it all worked out well for you.
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Because I know that it would mean going IP, I've made it clear there were no plans. Even then, they can get high pressured about it.

I'm pretty much 100% sure if I said I had a plan, my therapist would tell me to go IP. They don't mess around with that stuff.
Most T's wouldn't mess around with suicide.
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