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Old Apr 12, 2015, 10:22 AM
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Ah, inappropriate, definitely. Disrespectful, oh yes. It is a work meeting. Not a break time smoking session. He's not there to relax. He's there to work with you for which by the way he is being paid.

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Old Apr 12, 2015, 10:22 AM
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I wouldn't advice to switch therapists based on just one incident. Addressing it is much better option in my opinion.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 10:39 AM
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I’ve been with my T a year and a half and we have a very good relationship. If he did this (even though judging by his scent I doubt he smokes) I would be really p’d off, seriously. It’s SO disrespectful and somewhat unprofessional. I’d say tell him how you felt. If it was a test then maybe see what can come of exploring it, if it wasn’t then I’d say find a new T. BUT it really depends on where the relationship between the two of you is / was at. You need to make a judgment call on this one.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 10:42 AM
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I would be a lot more upset if the therapist was testing me or baiting me than simply using an e-cigarette. The ones I see drink stuff while I am there - how is it different?
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 10:44 AM
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In my world, he should have asked first. I'd have said, "I'd rather you didn't." I'm a former smoker and being around someone who is indulging just makes me long for a drag . . . .eciggie or otherwise! And since it's a slippery slope for me, I'd rather not be tempted. If he said, "Sorry, but it's my office and my rules." (even if he said it a bit nicer than that), I'd opt out. I do agree that it is his office and he gets to set the rules, but I have the right to take my business elsewhere.

In my search for a new therapist, I tried out one who objected when I arrived to the session with a cup of coffee. She told me that she preferred all her clients concentrate on the session and not be distracted by drinking tea, coffee, soda etc. I guess she would allow a client to sip a glass of water, but I got the idea that she wasn't even too keen on that. I politely declined a second appointment.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 10:45 AM
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I was joking about "oral fixation". It seemed like too good an opportunity to pass up a Freud joke.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 10:50 AM
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Interesting. My therapist keeps cold water and the makings for tea in her waiting area. She usually has a cup of herbal tea at hand during the session. I always make tea, but often forget to drink it. Sometimes I just hold it for a while then put it down. It's comforting and familiar to hold a warm cup of tea and gives me something to do with my hands if I need to talk about something emotionally difficult.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 10:51 AM
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I was joking about "oral fixation". It seemed like too good an opportunity to pass up a Freud joke.
I was too.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 10:52 AM
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in my search for a new therapist, I tried out one who objected when I arrived to the session with a cup of coffee. She told me that she preferred all her clients concentrate on the session and not be distracted by drinking tea, coffee, soda etc. I guess she would allow a client to sip a glass of water, but I got the idea that she wasn't even too keen on that. I politely declined a second appointment.
I probably would have left as soon as the therapist said something that controlling
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 11:03 AM
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I was joking about "oral fixation". It seemed like too good an opportunity to pass up a Freud joke.

I know and it was funny with Freud reference. Appropriate Behavior?

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Old Apr 12, 2015, 11:08 AM
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In my world, he should have asked first. I'd have said, "I'd rather you didn't." I'm a former smoker and being around someone who is indulging just makes me long for a drag . . . .eciggie or otherwise! And since it's a slippery slope for me, I'd rather not be tempted. If he said, "Sorry, but it's my office and my rules." (even if he said it a bit nicer than that), I'd opt out. I do agree that it is his office and he gets to set the rules, but I have the right to take my business elsewhere.


In my search for a new therapist, I tried out one who objected when I arrived to the session with a cup of coffee. She told me that she preferred all her clients concentrate on the session and not be distracted by drinking tea, coffee, soda etc. I guess she would allow a client to sip a glass of water, but I got the idea that she wasn't even too keen on that. I politely declined a second appointment.

Mine actually offers tea or coffee or water every time I am there. I decline because then I have to pee lol She even offers crackers if I come from work. That's crazy to tell you you cannot drink coffee! Distracted by coffee? Heck what a loony

Agree about being a former smoker. I'd rather people don't blow smoke or even vapors in front of me. Wasn't easy to quit so I'd rather not push it

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Old Apr 12, 2015, 11:09 AM
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No kidding. So many of us are on meds that cause dry mouth. It's pretty much impossible for me to talk through a whole therapy session without something to drink.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 11:18 AM
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I probably would have left as soon as the therapist said something that controlling

I know! I could kick myself now for not channeling my stopdog persona! <<--said with true respect for your gutsy demeanor, stopdog.

I usually bring a bottle of water to a session because I like to sip a bit when my mouth gets dry. My current therapist has water and paper cups available in her waiting area, but when I poured myself a cup when I first went to see her, it came out warm as toast. Yuck! I bring my own stash now.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 11:24 AM
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I don't carry in or drink anything while at the appointment. But I don't usually keep or carry things to drink with me anywhere other than my office or at home. If I have a cold I will take some tea in when I teach - but otherwise I don't.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 12:37 PM
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My T keeps water, coffee and tea available for her clients...but I don't drink there, nor do I bring anything in. My nerves make me have to pee as it is.... I can make it through a session without squirming as long as I'm not drinking before I leave or when I get there. She gave me tea once. Wanted me to try it...as I'd never (gasp!) had tea before. I liked it fine, but OMG halfway thru I was squirming cuz I had to GO. So, I learned. Yet I'm one who goes 6 hours or more between bathroom breaks. Pee before I leave for T, and I go again when I get there usually! ANd it's only a 15-20 minute drive! I often go before I go home again. Nerves suck!
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 02:23 PM
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Not appropriate! I think the only thing that is appropriate for the T is having something to drink. Mine often has a glas of water. She offers me too, but I usually drink before or after therapy.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 04:07 PM
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sue him!!!!
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 04:16 PM
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Where has TS gone to? Just one post, Im becoming suspicious.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 09:02 PM
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Where has TS gone to? Just one post, Im becoming suspicious.

Hey pearly! How have you been? Yes I am suspicious too....I was suspicious with the whole story but what the heck it prompted good discussion

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Old Apr 12, 2015, 09:45 PM
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I would not care about smoking one way or the other, but did not want to go when the woman's dog was there.
I agree that the therapist ought to ask the patient if it's okay for the dog to be there. Many people are allergic to dander. Many find them distracting, or just aren't comfortable around them for whatever reasons. (My T asked on the first visit. I really appreciated that.)

That said, it's not analogous to e-cigs. Dog dander is a known quantity. Secondhand e-cig smoke is not. It's not scaremongering to be concerned about it, and it's not an overreaction to ban e-cig use indoors, as many businesses and local gov'ts have done. If future research demonstrates that the smoke is harmless, great. Until that day it's entirely reasonable to be concerned about those things.

I say this as a former smoker who feels no urge to wage holy war against tobacco. I'm convinced nicotine attenuated my depression for many years. If it had no health consequences I'd still be chewing gum and wearing patches.

'Increased levels of toxic metals' in e-cigarette secondhand smoke Medical News Today
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 10:07 PM
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It's funny you said that, unhappydaze. I found quitting smoking threw me into depression. I am an ecig user and I would never consider using it in anyone's office, home, car, or personal space without asking. But in my office, sure, just not while conducting business with a client. Your breaks should be taken between clients, in my opinion.

However, I've never found myself so relaxed while vaping that I've melded into the furniture and forgotten my boundaries. Nicotine is not a mind-altering substance for me.

There are personal vaporizers for use with other substances, which is why I posed my question way up thread. What exactly was the therapist vaping?

And why he felt the need to do so in session, instead of between sessions? Every addiction has a hold on the addict, but to the extent that you must indulge right this moment? I'm more concerned about this therapists loss of boundaries than what behavior he exhibited.
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Old Apr 13, 2015, 05:15 AM
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I wonder if this thread is just to start a discussion as op never came back to clarify anything. And something just isn't adding up here.....

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Old Apr 13, 2015, 06:10 AM
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It is a virtual discussion feeding my virtual paranoia. I never saw a dog in my T's office, nor a cat and none of me T's ever asked me if they may smoke or not. Of course thay always offer me something to drink, no alcohol of course...
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Old Apr 13, 2015, 08:57 AM
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I wonder if chewing gum would be considered inappropriate...I always do..to help with anxiety !
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Old Apr 13, 2015, 12:22 PM
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i would be furious if my T smoked in session. i also wouldn't like chewing gum.
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