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View Poll Results: do the ends justify the means in therapy? | ||||||
yes - as long as it works great |
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No - there are things I care more about than the end result |
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33 | 63.46% | |||
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5 | 9.62% | |||
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#1
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Do you care more about the result than the method in therapy? I am not talking about illegal methods (although I don't know what illegal or immoral ones there would be).
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Please NO @ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. Last edited by stopdog; Sep 15, 2015 at 09:23 AM. |
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My first instinct was to answer yes. As long as it works, then it's all good. But I changed my answer to "other" because I don't want to sound like I'd embrace illegal or immoral 'methods' just to try to feel better. That would make me feel worse.
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I meant legal and as relatively moral as any therapy is.
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Please NO @ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. Last edited by stopdog; Sep 15, 2015 at 09:23 AM. |
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Other - because while the results matter most to me, therere certain means I shy away from. Like last week one of them told me I needed to get more attached to her to succeed in therapy. No, thanks. I just need to be able to tolerate her enough to talk to her.
Can someone who answered no explain why? Is it like the journey is more important than the destination? |
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I care more about the method than the result. I won't do some things even if they would be guaranteed to get a result I want - I would rather not have the result than do X. I chose no.
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Please NO @ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. |
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definitely the result. I'd do anything to get fully healthy.
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Questionable therapy methods have kept me stuck and prevented me from getting to the root of my issues (workaholism and fear of intimacy). I've lost years by getting stuck with an unethical T.
That's why I answered "no." |
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But is your objection to the methods or to the fact they did not work?
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Please NO @ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. |
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EMDR is a good treatment for PTSD, I hear. But I refuse to do that. I voted no.
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Well i am going to try accountability. I had a thought this morning that my apartment looks like no one cares about me. Cuz no one comes to visit, so no one sees the mess. But thats not exactly true. I know people care. I just wont let them in. So in t today, i told him i wanted him to hold me accountable for whatever i said i was going to do today. It doesnt even have to be the thing - its just that he will ask me. He said, "and you will be okay with that." I was like, i dont know how i will feel, but i guess we will see. I came home feeling hot dizzy and tired so i am lying down and not swimming yet, but i guess we'll see!
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I've taken a moment to think about what you mean by this question - I'm taking it to mean does it matter to you if the method seems ridiculous or unfavothamable if you get a good result. My answer is yes. I wouldn't carry on if the method didn't make sense to me.
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Ok then yes. I thought my t was kooky in the beginning with her go down into your body stuff but i decided to go with it cuz i liked her and hated feeling miserable and how about that it works for me. Been a long time since i thought she was kooky.
Eta: i told her one time that I'd initially thought she was kooky and she found that funny. Sent from my LG-H345 using Tapatalk |
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Same here.
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Yes, unless it set off my own internal alarms. I wouldn't do something that made me feel threatened or felt "wrong" to me. Otherwise I'll try anything once. But I'm that way in regular life too.
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I voted no. I think goals are important in therapy, but the means of getting there are, for me, more important. I have had therapists that are totally married to their "method" or school of thought - everything else, including my own mental health, be damned. It's taken me a long time to trust my instincts. And I've also come to the realization that no one path is the correct one for everyone. That being said, I am open to trying different things.
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I suppose in general, I'd say w/therapy... I do think the means matter a lot, like you alluded to, that it is the journey that matters, living well one day at a time, but... not absolutely, I think it's a combination too, like... no pain no gain, to mix cliches. |
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I answered no because some methods COULD do more harm than good and I am not willing to take the chance. One example is exposure therapy. T and I have discussed this and we agree. While I am quite strong and a survivor there are certain aspects that I am psychologically fragile and we are not willing to take the risk.
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I usually go by whatever works, but I voted "other". There are some things that I know I wouldn't do even if they were guarenteed to work.
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Never. I've been permanently damaged by my psycho t. If he thinks he's going to sell that jargon to me or anyone else, he's got another thing coming. |
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I feel like maybe people are thinking of behavioristic means, like snapping a rubber band on your wrist every time you want a cookie, or something like that. I think, like tisket said, the question is really more about, would you do weird psychodynamic things (like role play, or doll play, or whatever) to attain psychodynamic ends? Amirite?
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The methods. Definitely the methods. Even if they'd worked (cannot see how), I would have found the entire exercise objectionable. Which I did.....
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Yes, but then again, I'm quite the masochist.
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#23
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A means can be justified only by its end. But the end in its turn needs to be justified. (Leon Trotsky 1938)
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Although I didn't read all the replies, my first instinct was to vote yes. To me, good results are why we are in therapy to begin with, so however it takes to get there is fine with me.
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I care about the end result. I want to be able to function without therapy someday. Not sure if thats going to happen.
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