Why would he ask this?

The thing is I can't tell them exactly why I can't because if I say it the bad things will happen but I have told them that and I don't really know why you say such "big issues" if you mean the self harming I really don't see that as being much of a problem maybe only that it is time consuming but I don't understand why it is so bad to do.

I am doing something..... It just isn't the most conventional option.

What are you doing?

Well I have actually been exercising a lot and trying to eat better food also some things are hard to give an example because they are specific to the situation. Also the self harming does help and there are some other things as well.

I know you see nothing wrong with self harming, but that's because you aren't well. Self harming is not a healthy coping method. I hope things will turn around for you. The meds would help a lot (mine really help me). But the rest of it, eating well and exercising, that is good. It would be great if you could replace the self harm with extra exercise. Try to remember the meds are not poison and they would free you from those other entities, and nothing bad would happen.

[QUOTE=Angelique67;4716554]I know you see nothing wrong with self harming, but that's because you aren't well. Self harming is not a healthy coping method. I hope things will turn around for you. The meds would help a lot (mine really help me). But the rest of it, eating well and exercising, that is good. It would be great if you could replace the self harm with extra exercise. Try to remember the meds are not poison and they would free you from those other entities, and nothing bad would happen.[/

I am already doing 1:30hr every night I literally don't have time to do more plus it isn't the same. Also nothing will free me from the demons and other things that live in my head I am sort of cursed but also how could a tablet get rid of a demon they are completely unrelated. Also something very bad would happen like really really really bad.

[QUOTE=eden1515;4716572]I was convinced I had a sadistic serial killer stalker because I heard him torturing me every day. But a tablet got rid of him! I didn't even think it would. I was just so sick and tired of the torture that I took the meds thinking or hoping it would just make me not care anymore. But it got rid of him. Yes, it would get rid of your demons too.

[QUOTE=Angelique67;4716581]I am sorry you had to experience that but I still don't see how it would help tablets can't deal with the supernatural

[QUOTE=eden1515;4716589]The stalker made noises in my apartments that seemed supernatural too. I thought he was some master of new technology and had somehow wired up everywhere I lived for sound and touch. I moved 4 times trying to get away from him. Finally I couldn't take it anymore and decided to take "the poison" instead. I regret I hadn't taken it years before, it could have saved my back and thousands of dollars. Tens of thousands. Yes, it would definitely help you too. But if you're not at the point where you just can't take anymore, I guess you're not going to find out, unfortunately. I hope you find some peace.

If you are dealing with a malevolent supernatural force, perhaps then you should seek the help of an experienced Shaman in addition to seeing your psychiatrist and psychologist.

In the U.S. providers in the same practice can talk about clients and its not a confidentiality breach. It's possible the same rule applies in Australia as well. Otherwise they would need a release. If your providers have each other's contact info then I would guess they are either in the same practice or a release with this information was given at some point. Are you a minor? If so a parent or guardian can give consent for this.

Have you told your doctor that you're not allowed to take the medicine? They can't force you to take anything you don't want to, although it may be worth at least talking to them. If anything maybe they can explain why they think medication might benefit you.

Really? I'm in the U.S. had to sign consent forms to allow my T, marriage counselor, and p-doc to communicate with each other, and they're in the same practice. And they said I could revoke that permission at any time. (My T also clears with me first that it's OK to bring up certain topics with them, which I really appreciate.)

I'm guessing for Eden, it's because you're a minor or because rules are different there. Or maybe you signed something early on with a bunch of paperwork and didn't really think about it.

That is probably the policy of the practice you go to, and I imagine other practices might be similar. My pdoc and therapist rarely discuss me but if something came up in session that she thought my pdoc should know, she asks me first. It's not legally (or ethically) required, however. They can both read each other's notes since they're in the same file. It's like this in a hospital - the doctors out of different departments can see patient files if they need to. If a provider from another hospital wanted your records, however, they would need consent first. All of this is usually explained in any paperwork to be signed when you first begin treatment. I don't think it's always very clear, though.

You don't understand why self harming is bad? You think it's only bad because it's time consuming? No other reasons? Did you ask your doctor or therapist if self harm is ok? You also said voices in your head tell you to harm others.

If you don't understand why such things are unsafe then why don't you ask mental health professional? It is hard for me to answer why it is bad without ever meeting you. I think You would benefit from proper evaluation and treatment. I hope you tell them what is going on

Why do you think they suggest meds if there is nothing wrong? They must have their reasons. Did they ever tell you?

I wish you good luck

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i dont think we have those policies here i am not sure but i think we are different to the US. i am not a minor medically because you only have to be 16 here to have control of your medical treatment and i am 17 you have to be 18 to drink ect...

they didnt say specifically they just said to help me feel better but that was the doctors at the hospital and they are evil and want to hurt me so i cant trust them. but my current psychiatrist and psychologist havent really said why they would want me to take it. and i really dont see the issue with self harm people always say it is bad but never give a good reason why they just say because it is but never why i dont think there is a why i think it is just what people think they should think but i dont think there is anything wrong with it. and i can understand why hurting someone else would be bad but not myself. i just really dont understand.

[QUOTE=Angelique67;4716592]i am at that point but it is not just my body and the others who share it would never allow it ever

also i cant get a shaman because it is not my house.

You should ask your t what's official diagnosis. Then you can look up if medication is recommended with your diagnosis. Some illnesses require to take medication to get any better. If you had diabetes and needed insulin would you not take it? Think of mental illness the same way. Sometimes it needs to be medicated

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[QUOTE=eden1515;4717103]I guess I don't understand how the others would not allow it if you decided to try medication. What would they do?

[QUOTE=eden1515;4717103]You go to the Shaman --they typically do not come to your house

IMO:

No offense, but you seem to have an excuse for everything as to why you can't get help. And not all of your excuses appear to be logical or rational. Judging by what you say in your posts, you need some serious help, and you need it quick. Please find the strength to help yourself and to not let those voices prevent you from doing so. Without intervention from a professional things are going to get much worse. I really wish you the best.

[QUOTE=AllHeart;4717348]Firstly the demons are in the house so yes they would need to go there secondly I am offended and the fact you started with no offense probably means you could have expressed your opinion more nicely. And what do you mean by get help because I believe the original meaning of this thread was to seek clarification on why my psychologist said something. The problem does not need the type of help you are suggesting and also I have not had issues with everything because neither you nor anyone else on this thread has suggested EVERY single option and until that point you can't say that like I am not trying to feel better because maybe I haven't found the method that suits me but you seem to have all the answers so I am sure none of what I say will matter to you anyway and I highly doubt you wish me the best.

[QUOTE=Lauliza;4717262]I literally couldn't move my limbs to put the tablet in my mouth and I would not be able to swallow it even if someone put if there for me. If someone injected it into me I would have to either slash open the site and bleed out all of whatever they injected or find another way of getting it out of me and. If I was asked if I wanted to take it I would not be able to speak the word yes no matter what I was thinking no would come out I can't honestly explain how strong this is and I am really sick of people not understanding and not believing me so if you don't (this is not just in reference to this person but for everyone's) then do not reply to this thread or I will get very upset.

I would stop eating foods with sugar so I hardly ever had to use it.

Not all diabetes responds to diet; some MUST be treated with medication such as insulin. Your mental illness may really need to be treated with medication in your case because of the level of your problem; your symptoms may not respond to simple therapy. Your symptoms are pretty severe and I think we are just expressing a hope that eventually you will understand that there are options out there that probably will improve things for you if you can see your way to try them. You aren't there at this point, but it sounds like your treatment providers sure would like to see you give meds a try because they seem to feel some confidence that your symptoms would improve as well as your quality of life.

I know that I am not stupid that is why I said HARDLY ever had to use it and I don't see that my "symptoms" are severe.