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Old Jan 15, 2016, 02:09 PM
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Do you guys trust that your T is being real or genuine with you? Or, to put it differently, are you afraid of what they secretly think of you or things you say?

Mine seems to be pretty good about that. I don't think she judges me or looks down on me. I know we have different thoughts about some things, but that's normal. There's a part of me though that is afraid that when she goes home she rolls her eyes or something. I want her to be honest and open, and to be herself, even if that would be a little uncomfortable for me at times.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 02:12 PM
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Their personal opinions of me don't concern me, only that they are fulfilling their professional duties in session.

I actually don't care what professionals I hire think of me. I just want them to do their job.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 02:17 PM
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I think my T is genuine for the most part, but there are probably some things she thinks that she doesn't say. But those are just things that would hurt me to know the truth about anyways, so I think I'm okay with it. But I do think she is pretty genuine.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 02:24 PM
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I think ex T was very genuine. She was so unable to keep her own feelings out of things that it ended therapy and to that end I think she was always who she is (just who she is was not always nice)
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 02:32 PM
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He's very genuine. Says what he means and means what he says.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 02:35 PM
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I find my T to be genuine. He doesn't say something he doesn't mean.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 02:56 PM
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I think it is impossible to know if another human being is really genuine. I also think they get paid and are trained to keep most of their negative thoughts about us to themselves. I could not care less at this point what a therapist or anyone for that matter really thinks about me.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 03:02 PM
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I doubt they are being genuine but I don't see what difference it makes. They play a role and as long as they can act for 50 minutes a week - I don't worry about it.
I have no idea how anyone would be able to tell as long as the other was good enough at acting.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 03:03 PM
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After being with a T for years, I think they'd have to slip up at some point and I've never seen that in my therapist. He is very kind and genuine
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 03:19 PM
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I doubt they are being genuine but I don't see what difference it makes. They play a role and as long as they can act for 50 minutes a week - I don't worry about it.
I have no idea how anyone would be able to tell as long as the other was good enough at acting.
Usually I find your posts amusing and unique, but this one bothers me. My T does not play a role with me and she is genuine. It's demeaning for me to read that you think Ts are only acting. She wouldn't bluntly say "you're fat" but I wouldn't say that to my friends either. I think it's very important for a T to be genuine. I respect my T for
being genuine about her life too. When I first asked about her marriage status she started to say "we're fine" but then she told me the truth because she said she wouldn't be genuine if she lied to me. She's not an actress; she's a therapist and a human being.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 03:21 PM
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I believe she holds opinions of me that would hurt my feelings if she was open about them. Whether or not that belief is imputed to the quality of her genuineness or my lack of self-esteem is debatable though
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 03:25 PM
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Usually I find your posts amusing and unique, but this one bothers me. My T does not play a role with me and she is genuine. It's demeaning for me to read that you think Ts are only acting. She wouldn't bluntly say "you're fat" but I wouldn't say that to my friends either. I think it's very important for a T to be genuine. I respect my T for
being genuine about her life too. When I first asked about her marriage status she started to say "we're fine" but then she told me the truth because she said she wouldn't be genuine if she lied to me. She's not an actress; she's a therapist and a human being.
I don't know why what I believe about therapists bothers you, but I respect your right to disagree with me. If you believe your therapist is genuine, then have at it - I am not stopping you.

And actresses are also human beings (I don't know what human being has to do with it but you linked it with therapist)
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 03:27 PM
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Usually I find your posts amusing and unique, but this one bothers me. My T does not play a role with me and she is genuine. It's demeaning for me to read that you think Ts are only acting. She wouldn't bluntly say "you're fat" but I wouldn't say that to my friends either. I think it's very important for a T to be genuine. I respect my T for
being genuine about her life too. When I first asked about her marriage status she started to say "we're fine" but then she told me the truth because she said she wouldn't be genuine if she lied to me. She's not an actress; she's a therapist and a human being.
I don;t think you can ever know if your T is playing a role or being genuine. I believe my ex T was genuine because she seemed incapable of keeping her personal feelings out of things but then again I also believed her when she said she cared about me and who knows where the truth is on that one.

You know of your T what she wants you to know. Maybe it's genuine and maybe not. Are you offended because you worry she could be faking?
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 03:31 PM
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Yes my T is genuine. I can see it more in her actions than words. I love how genuine she is. I also agree that its important for a therapist to be genuine.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 03:34 PM
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When he was ill a few weeks ago, he seemed to let slip a few judgements, including one where he stopped himself mid-sentence. I'm sure he thinks things about me that he doesn't say, but in the room (when he's not ill) who he is as a person and whatever his personal judgements are don't really affect me. That hour is about me and what I feel.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 03:37 PM
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I think for the most part my T is genuine- she makes comments which just slip out and it is positive stuff, which Tallies up with what she says generally

But as others have said there is no way to know for certain.

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Old Jan 15, 2016, 03:38 PM
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I find my T quite genuine. He's very human. I don't think he would be my T if he wasn't.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 03:40 PM
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Usually I find your posts amusing and unique, but this one bothers me. My T does not play a role with me and she is genuine. It's demeaning for me to read that you think Ts are only acting. She wouldn't bluntly say "you're fat" but I wouldn't say that to my friends either. I think it's very important for a T to be genuine. I respect my T for
being genuine about her life too. When I first asked about her marriage status she started to say "we're fine" but then she told me the truth because she said she wouldn't be genuine if she lied to me. She's not an actress; she's a therapist and a human being.
For most clients, I imagine what is actually important is that their therapist appear genuine. That is not the same as be genuine. The persona I present in front of a lecture hall is not quite the same as my real persona, though they are related. But it seems quite genuine to the students.

I am curious as to why the post you responded to is demeaning - i.e., lessens your dignity - to you or any other client. Whether or not your therapist is genuine or just appears so, why is it demeaning to have someone point out the possibility that they are not genuine? It might be demeaning to the therapists, but why would it be demeaning to the client?
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 03:47 PM
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My therapist seems to really like people, so his optimistic positivity seems really in keeping with his true nature. I'm glad about that, although i don't generally worry very much whether people are being genuine- I think everyone has a right to keep the inner workings of their minds private, and as long as they act appropriately or kindly or whatever, I'm willing to take it at face value.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 03:49 PM
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For most clients, I imagine what is actually important is that their therapist appear genuine. That is not the same as be genuine. The persona I present in front of a lecture hall is not quite the same as my real persona, though they are related. But it seems quite genuine to the students.

I am curious as to why the post you responded to is demeaning - i.e., lessens your dignity - to you or any other client. Whether or not your therapist is genuine or just appears so, why is it demeaning to have someone point out the possibility that they are not genuine? It might be demeaning to the therapists, but why would it be demeaning to the client?

I totally agree with Persona being different in different places.

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Old Jan 15, 2016, 04:01 PM
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Well, my bar for sincerity is pretty high, but no.. I don't think my therapist manages to be particularly genuine. I do think it can be remarkably difficult (and even a vicious cycle) to remain authentic in a situation where one is simultaneously trying to counteract the effects of compassion fatigue while also trying to continuously generate empathy and unconditional positive regard in the moment; everyone has their natural limits.

I don't worry about what he "really" thinks though.. he's actually a lot more transparent than he intends.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 04:10 PM
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My t is genuine a good 98% of the time. She has thrown a few painfully obvious fake, "awwww, good job!" type comments out at me and every time it happens I call her on it. We usually end up laughing.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 04:11 PM
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I feel that she is genuine, yes.

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Old Jan 15, 2016, 04:13 PM
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I think my T is genuine for about 80% of the time. I don't always trust it when she says she doesn't judge me. I'm also not if she always honest. Or maybe she is honest but she sometimes says things in a way that it's true and not really saying what she really thinks.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 04:19 PM
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My impression is that my T is genuine. Does he say 100% of what he thinks about me—no, I'm sure he doesn't, I'm sure there's things he thinks about me that I wouldn't like. But that's true of my friends and family members as well. I think most people hold back to some extent and especially in professional relationships.
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