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Old Mar 03, 2016, 11:32 AM
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Went to court this morning for the traffic accident was in last week! I got my ticket reduced to no points and a smaller fine! Thank God! It's intimidating standing in front of a judge.
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 11:36 AM
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I've only ever once been before a judge, which was when I was sectioned. I had a great lawyer; I met her a few minutes before the hearing. I had written 3 pages of notes and suggestions she could use to get me out, but she barely even looked at it. And her appeal came down to "Breadfish wants to go home, but it's clear to me she should stay here!"
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 11:58 AM
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For what it is worth - there are legally relevant things for civil commitments (in my jurisdiction) and there are things important to a client that are not legally relevant. If it is not legally relevant, I try to explain why, but either because there is emotion involved or because it does not make sense (that does not always prevent it from being legally relevant) the client does not agree or believe me - and when I don't bring it up the client does not understand why. Also, sometimes if a client gives me 3 pages of stuff - I know I won't be able to go through it all in the time allocated for the hearing and it is usually not helpful for what I really have to prove in order to win. Finally, we had different periods of time for a person to be held against their will - the shorter periods of time (two weeks, a month) are where the court will almost always err on the side of keeping the person because to an outsider - what is two weeks of safety versus the risk of letting someone out too early (no judge wants to be on the front page of the news because the person they released killed themselves or someone else).
And here at least, the bar for the md/hospital/petitioner to win out over an alleged incapacitated person is extremely low.
I am not saying it is right, or fair, or just -but it is the way it goes, here at least.
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 12:03 PM
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Grey wet weather here predicted for the next 10 days. I hate Feb and March.
Uh huh.
Scotland.(as noted by atat). Grey wet weather predicted for the next ten millennia.
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 12:07 PM
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Thanks for explainig, SD. Now it makes a little more sense. (Doesn't excuse her from saying I should be sectioned, though. Her job is to be on MY side)
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 12:11 PM
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My dogs are a scottish breed and they despise getting wet. When I make them go out to do their business - they act like I am throwing them into some sort of weather hell from which they may never return or if they do return, will not recover - PTSD every time it sprinkles. Even heavy mist distresses my middle guy. I often tell him of his ancestors on the glen and how they did not whine and hide in the human's bed just because they were about to be sent out to pee (and let right back in and given a treat for bravely enduring wet toesies)
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 12:12 PM
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Thanks for explainig, SD. Now it makes a little more sense. (Doesn't excuse her from saying I should be sectioned, though. Her job is to be on MY side)
Yes, saying that at the hearing was bad form.
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 12:15 PM
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SD send your dogs to me for a 'holiday', then they will truly understand the meaning of 'its a wee bit damp afoot'
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 12:15 PM
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My dogs are a scottish breed and they despise getting wet. When I make them go out to do their business - they act like I am throwing them into some sort of weather hell from which they may never return. Even heavy mist distresses my middle guy. I often tell him of his ancestors on the glen and how they did not whine and hide in the human's bed just because they were about to be sent out to pee (and let right back in and given a treat for bravely enduring wet toesies)
LOL! I have a Scottish terrier. Exact same reaction to the wet and cold. Such stubborness.
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 12:16 PM
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It seriously effs one up *returns jedi hug*

I left Christianity and became a pagan nearly 10 years ago but only in the past year have a formed a regular enough.spiritual practice for it to make sense to have an altar in my home. Prior to that since I only did ceremonies once s month or so I just did it outside. But now that its several times a week it makes more sense. So I set up a little altar in the basement with a candle , my abalone shell bowl, sage and sweet grass, my wolf and otter fetishes, etc.
Then I got upstairs and had a debilitating and completely unexpected panic attack that I was, now, going to.hell for CERTAIN.
I don't even believe in the concept of hell. Bizarre how that training gets inside you as a kid
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 12:17 PM
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SD send your dogs to me for a 'holiday', then they will truly understand the meaning of 'its a wee bit damp afoot'
I shall add that to my list of empty threats I blather on at them about (usually while rubbing bellies and doling out biscuits) and in which they take absolutely no interest.
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 12:22 PM
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I left Christianity and became a pagan nearly 10 years ago but only in the past year have a formed a regular enough.spiritual practice for it to make sense to have an altar in my home. Prior to that since I only did ceremonies once s month or so I just did it outside. But now that its several times a week it makes more sense. So I set up a little altar in the basement with a candle , my abalone shell bowl, sage and sweet grass, my wolf and otter fetishes, etc.
Then I got upstairs and had a debilitating and completely unexpected panic attack that I was, now, going to.hell for CERTAIN.
I don't even believe in the concept of hell. Bizarre how that training gets inside you as a kid
I have not practiced the religion in which I was raised, or any other one for that matter, for almost 40 years now and I still, without realizing it or meaning to do so, mutter the prayers along automatically when I attend a wedding or funeral mass (the only two reasons I ever darken the door of a church).
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 01:26 PM
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Bay, i get freaked out seeing altars even on tv at perfectly sweet little old ladies houses. They must have told us in the usa that it was forbidden, like when we were very young, because its like i KNOW/FEEL its wrong, but why? False idols? They used to make us sell Mary statues every year at school - where were we supposed to put them? Doesnt make sense!
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 02:04 PM
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*offers Jedi hug* I grew up that way too - religion as control tool to punish - so I can relate somewhat. Maltreatment in the name of religion has effed me up.
Yeah i can relate. My spirituality has evolved throughout my therapy and I now identify as pagan. Was raised protestant/christian but it always seemed so hypocritical in real life anyway, i was accepted but only "if" i acted "good enough" so i acted so much, i never learned who i really was until starting therapy w current t! My animist friends accept me for exactly who i am warts and all and it is so wonderful not having to "act" with them. I've always felt that being out in nature was a more spiritual experience than being in a church. I have a small altar in my bedroom with a shell and sage, feathers, some crystals, and my drum is hanging on the wall behind it. Oh and i have a singing bowl too.

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Old Mar 03, 2016, 02:06 PM
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And i am hiding on the couch to avoid writing this poem that won't find its end...

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Old Mar 03, 2016, 04:17 PM
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I hate to deface the coffee tables in our lovely library, might there be an ottoman tucked away somewhere? I'm going to metaphorically sit here with my feet up, because at work my reality is somewhere between busting my butt, and full on mania. Half the office is out, and the rest of us are crazy busy. Ah, well, Friday tomorrow then 2 blessed days to sleep late. Why do I think 7:30 am is sleeping late?
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 04:18 PM
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T soon. I hope I didn't ruin anything by yesterday's escapades
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 04:19 PM
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Here ya go... they are just on the other side of the room

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I've only ever once been before a judge, which was when I was sectioned. I had a great lawyer; I met her a few minutes before the hearing. I had written 3 pages of notes and suggestions she could use to get me out, but she barely even looked at it. And her appeal came down to "Breadfish wants to go home, but it's clear to me she should stay here!"
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Ever since I've had a LOT of faith in lawyers.
Not sure if this is sincere or sarcastic...
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This may be the biggest Couch ever. Couches, club chairs, ottomans...and is that a big screen TV the chairs are turned away from?
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 05:09 PM
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This may be the biggest Couch ever. Couches, club chairs, ottomans...and is that a big screen TV the chairs are turned away from?
It's a whole room!
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 05:10 PM
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It's a whole room!
Actually I like to think of the Couch as a microcosm of the universe.
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 05:43 PM
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I hope none of my students ever says that about my lectures.
I'm sure they don't. Its just that I have done intro stats before and I really want to know ow to use the software because personal computers didn't exist when I first did it.
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