[sinking]

while i feel stuck and nothing good is coming out of it. i have been trying to explain this to her in a million ways but she seems to not understand it. she is so "POSITIVE" and twists things around that it sickens me. how do i explain that things do have improved, but just because i have stopped sinking down, not because im pushing myself out of it, my head above the water.... i dont want to hurt her, but i really see nothing coming out of it. i've been in therapy with her for about 3 months... i do like her and i feel understood in what i say, just not about what therapy is doing for me. thanks.

[sinking]

i have T tomorrow should i try again and tell her we're not going anywhere?

[Waterbear]

If that is how you feel then it probably would be helpful to tell her so she is aware. Do you have any idea how you could get unstuck. Maybe trying something different would help?

[AllHeart]

Just curious...to what do you attribute your improvements to?

[Bipolarchic14]

Is it possible you just don't feel comfortable yet. It took months for me to talk with my therapist.

[LesFleursDuMal]

I don't know what you're in therapy for, but 3 months is really not a long time. She might feel that it's going well because she knows it's only the beginning, so things are normal for her. I've been in therapy for 2.5 years now, and for a very long time, I couldn't see any progress, I felt like it wasn't helping me at all. I guess that's normal, just give it time and try to talk about it with her if you need to

[sinking]

Waterbear, what do you think something different could be?

Allheart, i attribute the improvements to the new meds.

Bipolarchic, i feel VERY comfortable wirth her already and by the way im trained, i've been in therapy with another T for 8 years. i know this is a good match, its just we talk different languages (she is DBT and my previous T was a classic psychotherapist)

LesFleursDuMal, i know 3 months its not a long time, but the good feeling is there, we jus speak different languages. im in therapy for BPD.

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I did talk wih her this morning and it seemed to work better. but she still seems too framed with her manuals and slides on how to work with BPD patients. its like she is treating someone with BPD rather than ME with BPD. does it make any sense?

[Petra5ed]

Three months isn't that long. I think therapists are supposed to be positive, after all everything is just perspective. But reality is there's no way to tell what they have or haven't done for you from what you did for yourself or what life did. We are constantly changing.

[sinking]

I have talked with both Ts and even though they do a different kind of therapy, and see things differenttly, i think i can put them together to help me fiund a reason to live. thats all im asking for...

[BudFox]

I don't think Ts are necessarily reliable judges of the effectiveness of therapy. They are too invested in believing that it helps. I also think that an unstated maxim of therapy is that the T's assessment trumps the client's, and if the client says it's not helping, the T might have to step in and "correct" this perception. I understand what you mean about not wanting to hurt her, and this is a tough spot, because giving honest feedback might do just that.

[musinglizzy]

I agree, 3 months isn't that long yet....but I have been seeing T1`for two years now, and occasionally she will mention she sees a positive "shift" or something in me....when I don't see or feel it. I always feel stuck. So I usually just tell myself that it's wishful thinking for her that I'm improving....hmmm

[sinking]

I have T 2 today and i dont feel like talking at all...

[seoultous]

you say: I did talk wih her this morning and it seemed to work better. but she still seems too framed with her manuals and slides on how to work with BPD patients. its like she is treating someone with BPD rather than ME with BPD. does it make any sense?

Isn't DBT a fairly structured therapy protocol. Maybe that contributes to your feeling that the therapy isn't focused enough on you who happens to have BPD but on BPD in general.

[sinking]

We did talk and she agreed its not going well and i'm glad about of it even if we didnt find any sloution...