APA article: "Termination and abandonment: A key ethical distinction"

I truly don't think I've seen all this client blaming that you seem to see. I am NOT saying it isn't there, but like you said, it is all perspective.

I guess it depends on how one interprets the bolded stmts. Ya sign onto a website that purports to support those crossing the road; you express difficulties with crossing said road; other road crossers offer their support, sometimes in the form of relating their experiences - yeah, i hit that bump too. Sometimes in the form of just offering a shoulder.

But if you want to stop crossing the road and go back to where you started, do you have the right to drag somebody back with you? "Hes not heavy, hes my brother" implies continuing on the path together, maybe a little slower, but not turning back.

Do explain how someone else exploring his poor experiences drags on you. And for me, there's no stasis in recovery from toxic therapy. In fact, psychoanalysis, examining my past, was WIMPY compare to understanding how I was scammed by the mental health profession. Judging how little the profession consiiders harmful therapy, that appears where the stasis is.

Alas, my ability to understand what you mean was apparently a one time shot.
Oh ex-hankster, don't let's ask for the moon... we have the stars

I don't see that merely signing on or even starting a thread means a person wants advice. I never do. I want examples or stories about how other people have handled it or how they see it. But I most definitely don't want advice on what I should do. Don't presume my way is not also a means of crossing roads that I might choose to traverse.

As woody allen said in annie hall, i cant be happy if there is one other miserable person in the world #whyimstillintherapy

And you see your posts on this thread uplifting, supportive and helping spread happiness? Is that how you're reading the feedback?

All im saying is, i dont think THIS (above) attitude is helpful here. Is that so terrible? If so, go ahead, shoot me.

Why do you dislike me or my postings so much? I apologize when i step on peoples toes. What else can i do? My apple didnt fall far from my tree - i admit i was raised by bonnie and clyde, parents with no morals. What exactly do you expect from me?.

These types of posts are extremely helpful to me, particularly since the profession offered no support and seems altogether skittish on the topic. And it took me infinitely more guts to understand and process harmful therapy than anything I did in it.

Well you don't own the road. You could always go to another intersection instead of going the long way or all the way around to get to the street you want to cross.

I was raised by raging, abusive parents too. Maybe my mother was meaner than yours!

Therapy certainly never taught me civility, tact, political skills, strategy in dealing with others. It only taught me me-me-me, I'm so entitled cause my parents were awful, it's my privilege to express myself regardless of consequences, I should draw boundaries and politics be damned.

The world doesn't grant me a pass because I had mean parents.

PS. Unaluna, I've seen you be funny, charming and empathetic. I bet showing that side would uplift others and spread more happiness.

I gather you are joking. If not, pease clarify who is in this "we" group.

I think the whole idea of a "we" that has assigned themselves the task of helping the "you" is the start of many bad things (including much of the harm done in therapy).

Message received.

I could point you to threads where it is on display but that is probably against guidelines, and I don't want to call anyone out that way. It is sometimes mixed in with elements of genuine support, but on the whole is actually more like coercion or intimidation. Maybe it is not intended or even conscious, dunno.

My experience is that the therapy system, in all of its manifestations, exerts tremendous pressure to conform and comply. It's ok to claim therapy abuse or harm, just don't insinuate serious systemic problems and don't challenge the "one bad apple" construct. Therapy harm is met with outrage, as long as it is framed as an isolated incident and as long as the victim is not too insistent. Cross that line, and support is withdrawn and replaced by hostility.