Do we really miss them? (Possible TRIGGER)

You really think that these personal and biased experiences would qualify you to draw some general conclusions? You really think so? Then you should be absolutely satisfied therapists drawing general conclusions about their patients just based on their personal experience and inductive bias (e.g. "those patients who have not improved in therapy with me have just been too defensive").

I can't think of a less biased way of assessing therapy than reading their own professional literature.

I'm just wondering why don't you consider that your own assessments are warped, in part of because of the delusions of grandeur?

As you will see from my signature line, telling me what to do -- as in "move on" -- is not something which I find supportive. On the other hand I do find it supportive if someone wants to express a view different from mine or to tell me how I come across to them.

Therefore, just as a matter of information, I wonder if you might find it informative to hear that I find your judgment about what is appropriate and what is not to be very judgmental and, therefore in my view, not supportive.

People can go back and forth and on and on about these things and that's not what I'm interested in or trying to do. Who knows, or gets to decide, what is appropriate and what is not? We may all have differing opinions on some things and a similar opinion about others. In this case, I disagree with you and I do NOT think that "the people who are so damn negative about therapy/therapists in every single post" are inappropriate necessarily. In addition, I do not think that the people themselves are "inappropriate" anyway. How CAN a person be 'inappropriate"? Though their behavior might be sometimes.

Sounds like you got triggered by the negativity, maybe, while I get triggered by the judgmentalism?

Hmm. . .I wonder what I can learn about myself when I get triggered like this. . .

Anyway, my rant is over now, too.

That was hurtful.

People have shared their experiences and feelings here.

That was not nice.

I've seen that you have been hurt in therapy. That should not give you the freedom to cut someone down with your comment of it being the most negative post in the thread.

Respecting other peoples feelings and thoughts, that gives me a view to look at things in different ways.

Disrespect is always a shut down for listening to anyone for me.

LOL. This is the most negative post in the thread.

What you call negativity could also be seen as much needed balance, which might help keep this place from going full cult.

Personally, I don't go to therapy. I'm a recovering therapy addict.

thank you for saying this. why should my experince of therapy, and others for that case, be of any less value on this forum just because we had negative experiences and chose to share and discuss those experiences that possibly go against the status quo or may make some feel uncomfortable??

whether someone has a good or bad experince of therapy or of a therapist, as members of this supporting community, we all should have the right to share those experiences with out fear of being shamed, insulted, ganged up on, disgraced, or ridiculed. i would only hope that as the adults that we are here, we would listen considerately and have the ability to wisely contemplate and openly discuss what each and everyone has to share and offer to the conversation.

Therapists make absurd grandiose claims. They offer little evidence and few specifics. Serious scrutiny is actively discouraged. People mostly pay attention only to rosy and idealized therapy cases and hold those cases up as typical. Those who describe destructive experiences are treated as pariahs, or not even heard. Speaks for itself.

FYI, i just reported this post. Surely you must know that referring to another member here as warped and deluded is against rules (and no a general reference to therapists that way is not the same as calling out a specific individual in a public forum).

Also everyone is biased and thus any post could be distorted by bias, even those dealing strictly with personal experience. If you only question the credibility of those posters you disagree with you are revealing you own selection bias. You scare me. Apologies to OP.

FYI, i just reported this post. Surely you must know that referring to another member here as warped and deluded is against rules (and no a general reference to therapists that way is not the same as calling out a specific individual in a public forum).

Your experience doesn't have any "less value." My point was that some people (not naming ANYONE IN PARTICULAR) are constantly negative. ALL THE TIME. If you had a bad experience, that sucks, but not every one one of your posts should be negative. Especially when people are looking for support. Why not start a "I was hurt by therapy" thread?

That's absolutely full of untruths. I've had two extremely terrible experiences in therapy but I don't constantly harp on them. I seriously scrutinized my 2nd experience and that therapist is no longer allowed to practice. I'm finally having a great experience that is completely full of evidence and specifics. So why not just speak for yourself instead of making these broad, unproven claims? When you speak for yourself you are more likely to be heard and understood.

The original post asked questions and said OP was "musing." Yes, the questions came from a place of hurt, but they were still questions from someone trying to figure things out. People answered the questions as it made sense to them, while showing support for the OP. I don't see anyone attacking CL, who a few pages ago made this very wise comment:

"No worries. We all learn from each other."