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Old Sep 16, 2017, 02:04 PM
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"internalized oppression." Oh good grief. There was a reason I had stopped posting on this forum. I should have stayed away.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 02:05 PM
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Do you think it is not a thing? Psychologists do talk about themselves.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...ting-ourselves

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...do-i-sound-gay

https://books.google.com/books/about...d=dWdVAgAAQBAJ

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...al-root-snarky
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 02:12 PM
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Sure it is a "thing". But why do people here feel they have the right to pin that label on others? Are you able to spot internalized oppression or do you just think you can? This seems to go against the judgement rules on this board.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 02:14 PM
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I did not see anyone pinning it on anyone else - just giving an opinion on how the language struck a poster
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 02:17 PM
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I do not think I saw anyone pinning that label on others?

I find the concept interesting. In therapy it should apply to female therapists as well as female clients. I'm much more interested in the therapists who might be expressing "sexism" towards female clients, however unconsciously.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 02:22 PM
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Language means a lot of things to a lot of people. I looked it up online to see maybe I'm wrong?? Technically I am not but politically i am.

I found this article
https://www.google.com/amp/jezebel.c...1683808274/amp

So yeah I must have been sleeping or just living my life when this change in meaning happened. When I was in college I attended a super liberal art college and even there it wasn't a "thing" re the language around female.

But I did not mean anything like the above link in my own usage and yeah I get pissed when people tell me how to write when technically you can use female as a noun.

It just seems like overkill of victimhood to me.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 02:25 PM
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Sure it is a "thing". But why do people here feel they have the right to pin that label on others? Are you able to spot internalized oppression or do you just think you can? This seems to go against the judgement rules on this board.
GC -- just to be clear, I didn't pin the label on you or anyone.

My original post was a link to an article describing what I thought was a relevant concept in response to the idea that was getting discussed that women can be sexist etc.

That's it.

In response to that, it seems Lolagrace had thought it fit to say that the thread was moving away from some notion of simplicity and was getting "twisted".

I definitely take objection to the idea that my mentioning a concept with a link to an article can get twisted as "twisted".

In response to that, I think it's perfectly appropriate that I mention how I think the concept / article I'd originally mentioned applies to this discussion here.

At a more meta level, I find it rather disturbing that as long as people are going around making broadside attacks -- even to posts that are measured and seek to look at concepts and ideas -- everything is fine and dandy.

But, when someone objects to it, suddenly thin-skinned-ness seems to be the name of the game.

If sensitivity and lack of judgment is what is being called for, then I think it needs to go both ways. Not just one way.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 02:26 PM
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The implied message has been if you use this language it is a sign of internalized oppression
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 02:27 PM
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That is not how I read it. It may be a way it can be read, but I don't think it is the only way to read it.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 02:31 PM
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Ok tone is hard to read in a post. I was reactive most to Myrto's post making all kinds of assumptions about me. I'm fine to agree to disagree.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 02:35 PM
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Which would then lead me to remember the idea that women are systematically taught that disagreement is about them personally and they are wrong/need to fix it/have been criticized and are now shamed - simply because someone disagreed or even did not like what was said.
Not all women at all times absorb those lessons - but I believe it is very pervasive.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 02:36 PM
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I would like it if there were more than just the two options on these therapist gender polls, but I understand that there are likely not a lot of non-binary or trans therapists in the mainstream of therapy. I've only seen one male therapist and he was good, but frightening when he got angry once. For me abuse history has nothing to do with why I choose therapists who are women or who identify that way, but I don't like the super frilly feminine type--in general because I just have a hard time relating.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 02:44 PM
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Mine identifies as both male and genderfluid (I think he prefers it over bisexual. But I think he means pansexual). Yeah it would be interesting to see where t fits as a rarity.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 02:46 PM
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I would like it if there were more than just the two options on these therapist gender polls, but I understand that there are likely not a lot of non-binary or trans therapists in the mainstream of therapy. I've only seen one male therapist and he was good, but frightening when he got angry once. For me abuse history has nothing to do with why I choose therapists who are women or who identify that way, but I don't like the super frilly feminine type--in general because I just have a hard time relating.

I was just thinking about this, actually (while wondering if growly and I share an alma mater).

The average age of therapists (it's an aging profession) generally means clients are only going to get the two traditional options. Maybe it will be different in ten years.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 05:19 PM
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Male T. I'm female and both of us are heterosexual, if that information makes any difference to you. I specifically chose a male T.
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Old Sep 17, 2017, 10:50 PM
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I've seen both but at this point, I'm sticking to women. Turns out I have a lot of issues related to sexuality and sexual assaults and it's just easier for me to talk about that with a woman.
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Old Sep 17, 2017, 11:28 PM
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I am a female with a female T. I grew up in a house full of females - half a dozen to be exact! My mom and five sisters. Maybe that's why I feel more comfortable talking with a female T.
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Now the poll is a bit closer. Interesting
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