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Old Jan 01, 2018, 05:05 PM
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So is anyone who's using this getting ads on facebook related to things you've told woebot?
No.....are you?
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 05:15 PM
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OK, I'm trying it for the first time, and it is kinda fun.
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 05:29 PM
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No.....are you?
I haven't tried it and am wondering what the payoff is for facebook or why it's required to sign in using FB which is basically a marketing platform.
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 05:31 PM
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I haven't tried it and am wondering what the payoff is for facebook or why it's required to sign in using FB which is basically a marketing platform.
I don't like the fact Facebook store your data. I wonder whether they use what you tell the bot for targeted advertising.
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 05:34 PM
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So is anyone who's using this getting ads on facebook related to things you've told woebot?
Sorry Ruh Roh, just read up the thread and realised you had the same suspicion.
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 05:37 PM
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I don’t think conversations with Woebot are of such a nature that they easily lend themselves to ad mining. They’re short and largely in emoji or “I’m sorry you feel that way.” It’s not like you’re telling Woebot how much you crave a Louis Vuitton bag, or Woebot is pushing things like spa visits.

Conversations and clicking on pictures right here on PC are far more likely to trigger targeted advertising—for instance, I get ads, on Facebook and other sites, for adult onesies.
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 05:55 PM
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I use private browsing because I hated getting ads here on pc that were based on sites I visited. I don't think it's impossible to think that there's a marketing aspect to woebot...there are a lot of products aimed at emotional states. Art--let us know if you get ads for grad programs in psychology.
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 05:57 PM
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I turned off private browsing for something and within a day I had ads on facebook for Van der Kolk lectures or some such crap about trauma recovery.
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 06:08 PM
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I use private browsing because I hated getting ads here on pc that were based on sites I visited. I don't think it's impossible to think that there's a marketing aspect to woebot...there are a lot of products aimed at emotional states. Art--let us know if you get ads for grad programs in psychology.
I’m not questioning the basic premise, but we need a test that excludes all factors besides Woebot. E.g., if art has been talking about her psychology class on Facebook, ads for grad programs could just as well have come from that as Woebot.

So, who wants to talk Woebot’s ear off about their hitherto unknown passion for, I dunno, curling or cricket or some such?
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 06:12 PM
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One thing would be to look for ads about the music woebot suggests, or products related to moods or emotions shared with woebot.
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 06:16 PM
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So is anyone who's using this getting ads on facebook related to things you've told woebot?
Not that I'm aware of. I'll have to pay more attention.
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 06:17 PM
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I’m not questioning the basic premise, but we need a test that excludes all factors besides Woebot. E.g., if art has been talking about her psychology class on Facebook, ads for grad programs could just as well have come from that as Woebot.

So, who wants to talk Woebot’s ear off about their hitherto unknown passion for, I dunno, curling or cricket or some such?
I will!! I'll go ping him right now lol
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 06:18 PM
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I use private browsing because I hated getting ads here on pc that were based on sites I visited. I don't think it's impossible to think that there's a marketing aspect to woebot...there are a lot of products aimed at emotional states. Art--let us know if you get ads for grad programs in psychology.
I get them, but have ever since I started posting on Facebook about my class. Which was last August before I ever saw woebot.
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 06:27 PM
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O m g. I asked him if hot air ballooning would be a good way to forget and he said he admired my ability to reflect and be honest. Ex t said almost the exact phrase in her last email reply. What is going on here?! :Eek:
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 06:32 PM
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And that email is not on my phone where I use woebot.
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 06:34 PM
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O m g. I asked him if hot air ballooning would be a good way to forget and he said he admired my ability to reflect and be honest. Ex t said almost the exact phrase in her last email reply. What is going on here?! :Eek:
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And that email is not on my phone where I use woebot.
Stock therapist script.
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 06:36 PM
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Hopefully.
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 06:36 PM
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The timing is freaky though eh?
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 06:41 PM
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The timing is freaky though eh?
No, because it's only the proximity of the events that makes you think it's freaky. Like when you open your email thinking "I'll hear from x, I just have a feeling," it's confirmed when you do hear from X, but you have opened your email many times hoping to hear from X, only not to hear from X, and your mind deletes that data. Or like when you read something about Fred Astaire and the next day someone else mentions him. You've read plenty of things about Fred Astaire and heard him mentioned plenty of times, just not in such close proximity.
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 06:55 PM
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Oh yeah. I remember learning about that. Never have been good at applying book learning to real life...
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 07:04 PM
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Maybe your ex-therapist is actually a woebot, art.
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 07:06 PM
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. Double !
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Old Jan 01, 2018, 07:32 PM
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You’re not alone, Art — current T is big on emojis + “I’m sorry you’re feeling this way”.
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Old Jan 02, 2018, 07:25 AM
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Well! Just paid close attention on Facebook and there are no ads as of yet for hot air ballooning....
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Old Jan 02, 2018, 08:00 AM
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So far I enjoyed Woebot but he surprised me today by being quite sharp. He wanted to talk about sleep and was rather strict saying things like "you must buy 3 alarm clocks today" (yes, he really used the word must twice) and "I'm not a bot who will give you wellness tips all the time" etc... Whole "conversation" I felt like I was being scolded by a PE teacher or something like that.
I never react well to this kind of "tough love" and it was surprising as the bot was so friendly and funny until now.
What's more, it had no connection to what I struggle with... I go to bed early and I wake up early, my issue is waking up at night.
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