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Old Jan 04, 2018, 09:50 PM
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Does anyone have a fitbit, or similar activity tracker, that tracks sleep stages?

I got a Fossil brand activity tracker for Christmas. I wasn't aware that it could track the different stages of sleep until I was playing around with it the other day. A graph came up showing times that I was in light sleep, deep sleep and AWAKE. The awake part startled me.

I shared this with my counselor, because there is a concern for me that I may be "awake" doing things at night and have no realization of it. There are some pretty odd things that have happened, when I was technically asleep. When I saw the graph showing that I was "awake" it disturbed me.

He explained to me that it tracks movement, and it could have just been me moving around in my sleep. He asked me if my tracker tracked my heart rate.

Well, I've played with it some more today and it does not.

I also went looking for one that did track heart rate while you are sleeping. So far I haven't found one.

Does anyone have knowledge of an activity tracker that tracks your heart rate while you are asleep?

I'm looking for one of the ones that you wear on your arm during the day and at night while you are asleep that has that capability.

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Old Jan 04, 2018, 09:56 PM
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I have one and have found that my amount of restlessness at night results in me having about 60% efficiency in sleep. I don't do much in my sleep in terms of doing things, I'm just moving so much that it thinks I'm active.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 10:07 PM
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Oddly, this came up briefly with my T today. Mostly because I'd gotten lots of sleep last night but don't generally sleep that well, and it's reflected by my FitBit tracking. (T said he doesn't wear his at night, and the app keeps telling him that he should.) I tend to get lots of light sleep, a fair amount of REM sleep, and not much deep sleep. And have lots of awake periods, but I know I'm actually awake during them (in fact, sometimes it thinks I'm asleep when I'm actually awake...)

One thing that could help you is that it says "awake/restless," so it could just be that you're moving around a lot in your sleep (possibly while dreaming?), but not actually awake. Mine does not track heart rate during sleep (FitBit Charge 2, I think?)

I know there are some newer, fancier models of FitBit, so maybe check into those?

Or, if you're concerned that, say, you're getting up and doing things, maybe you could set something up to record yourself while you're asleep? Just audio might be sufficient.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 10:26 PM
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Mine is a fit bit charge and you can view heart rate for a 24 he period. Also the awake bit measures movement and the sensitivity can be adjusted. It measures when I am restless and awake but it's not always right at all. It will say I'm asleep when I'm not an so forth lol
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Old Jan 05, 2018, 01:31 AM
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I have one and have found that my amount of restlessness at night results in me having about 60% efficiency in sleep. I don't do much in my sleep in terms of doing things, I'm just moving so much that it thinks I'm active.


That probably is my awake time too. I’ve just never seen it graphed out and seeing awake time with what I’m trying to sort out is a little curious.
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Old Jan 05, 2018, 01:36 AM
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Oddly, this came up briefly with my T today. Mostly because I'd gotten lots of sleep last night but don't generally sleep that well, and it's reflected by my FitBit tracking. (T said he doesn't wear his at night, and the app keeps telling him that he should.) I tend to get lots of light sleep, a fair amount of REM sleep, and not much deep sleep. And have lots of awake periods, but I know I'm actually awake during them (in fact, sometimes it thinks I'm asleep when I'm actually awake...)

One thing that could help you is that it says "awake/restless," so it could just be that you're moving around a lot in your sleep (possibly while dreaming?), but not actually awake. Mine does not track heart rate during sleep (FitBit Charge 2, I think?)

I know there are some newer, fancier models of FitBit, so maybe check into those?

Or, if you're concerned that, say, you're getting up and doing things, maybe you could set something up to record yourself while you're asleep? Just audio might be sufficient.


Thank you!

I’m going to check out that Fitbit.

My awake time is in the middle of deep sleep and then light sleep. It could be just a normal sleep pattern some nights. My sleep, as I’m now seeing, cycles like that.

Long deep sleep and then light sleep. The awake times don’t always come and I’m trying to sort them out with my journal writing.

That may be OCD. I just really like answers and explanations.
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Old Jan 05, 2018, 01:40 AM
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Mine is a fit bit charge and you can view heart rate for a 24 he period. Also the awake bit measures movement and the sensitivity can be adjusted. It measures when I am restless and awake but it's not always right at all. It will say I'm asleep when I'm not an so forth lol


Thank you!

I will check that one out too.

I wish I had had it when I think I flushed my mom’s dentures down the toilet during the night that she stayed with us in our home.

That would have been an interesting graph to look at. It would have given me something to connect reality to.
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Old Jan 05, 2018, 08:07 AM
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I have a fitbit charge 2. I wear it to sleep but I find it prett uhh inaccurate. For me it says I sleep more than I really do. When I wake up in the middle of the night I lay pretty still in bed in hopes of falling asleep and not waking my husband.
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Old Jan 05, 2018, 02:28 PM
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My Fitbit Charge 2 tracks heart rate while I'm asleep. For me it's fairly accurate when it comes to tracking my sleep. I don't get as much deep sleep as I should.
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Old Jan 05, 2018, 09:43 PM
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My Fitbit Charge 2 tracks heart rate while I'm asleep. For me it's fairly accurate when it comes to tracking my sleep. I don't get as much deep sleep as I should.
I'm going to check into the Fitbit Charge 2.

I knew that I didn't get enough sleep, but to see it in a graph is really startling to me.

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Old Jan 05, 2018, 10:33 PM
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My Fitbit Charge 2 tracks heart rate while I'm asleep. For me it's fairly accurate when it comes to tracking my sleep. I don't get as much deep sleep as I should.
So, how can I see heart rate while sleeping? Is that something in app?
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Old Jan 06, 2018, 03:38 PM
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So, how can I see heart rate while sleeping? Is that something in app?


Yeah, if you go in the app you can look at daily heart rate graphs.
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Yeah, if you go in the app you can look at daily heart rate graphs.
Oh wow, so you can! Thanks for letting me know about that!
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Old Jan 06, 2018, 09:08 PM
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I went to Best Buy today and was looking for the Charge 2. They had the Ulta and the Blaze but they didn’t have my size. They both also said that they track active and resting heart rate.

Just wanted to add that here in case some else is interested.

I’m about to check them out on Amazon.
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The reason I chose the Charge 2 over the Alta is for the guided breathing. I was just starting my meditation practice at the time and thought it would be helpful. I was right.

Seems like the only difference between the Charge and Blaze is the color display.
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Old Jan 07, 2018, 11:47 AM
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The reason I chose the Charge 2 over the Alta is for the guided breathing. I was just starting my meditation practice at the time and thought it would be helpful. I was right.

Seems like the only difference between the Charge and Blaze is the color display.


That’s great to know!

I didn’t know to consider that. I hold my breath a lot when I’m not in a good place.

Thank you for posting that!
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Old Jan 07, 2018, 11:48 AM
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Have you ever considered going to a sleep professional?
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I don't have a FitBit but have been involved in different kinds of sleep-related research. I just saw this online article, maybe interesting to some:. FitBit does not have lab-level precision of course but I think the approach to track large-scale patterns is interesting and the data are probably not completely random.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclu...110058417.html
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Have you ever considered going to a sleep professional?


No I haven’t. I don’t care for professional medical or health care people on any level.

It’s hard for me to understand how I could go to a place that is foreign to me and think that I could relax and sleep. Then you add the things that, I guess, they hook up to you to monitor and record what’s going on while you sleep.

That’s triggering just typing it.

I don’t think that is somethings that I would find comfort in.

Thank you for the suggestion though.
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Old Jan 07, 2018, 08:26 PM
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I don't have a FitBit but have been involved in different kinds of sleep-related research. I just saw this online article, maybe interesting to some:. FitBit does not have lab-level precision of course but I think the approach to track large-scale patterns is interesting and the data are probably not completely random.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclu...110058417.html


That was a very interesting article and video.

They talk about social jet lag and I can relate to it very easily.

Mine is not really “social” but more of what’s going through my mind on a given night.

Some nights there have been things going through my mind that day and I HAVE to have the space to sort it out. Life with a job and family makes it hard to find that time until everyone is in the bed and I can find quiet and my journal.

That may result in me going to bed at 1, 2 or sometimes 3. My mind is unloaded in my journal and then I can go to bed.

I see that I almost immediately go into a deep sleep. Sorting this out, on the nights that I have more troubling things going on internally, I have more “awake” time during the night that I don’t remember.

That is my main concern right now. I know that it could be me just restless sleeping, but without going into detail, things have happened that make me very curious and a bit concerned about what happens during those times.

Sorry for so much info. It was just there.
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