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Old Aug 12, 2018, 03:40 PM
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While certainly unfortunate that the cat was treated that way - I do think there is some anthropomorphizing going on here. I have had pets who also had unfortunate backgrounds and they had quirks. But then I have also had cats that I raised from tiny kittenhood who came from the equivalent of upper middle class, cat Montessori, natural organic food fed, hand woven linen whelping bed families who also had quirks and who would run and hide every time anyone came to the house, even from people who were there all the time.
Cats have quirks no matter their background in my experience.

I think a lot of us do anthropomorphize. I do it. I am even often baffled at how easily my animals seem to be able to train me more than I do them. And I have the thumb and several degrees. I would suggest that it might be possible to spend time thinking about the happy parts rather than dwelling on the unfortunate parts that one did not cause and cannot change and just seem to be a way to continue unhappiness.

Ebony definately remembered what happened to her, I'm completely certain of it. Like say for example she had a severe aversion to the cops and they had done nothing to her since going into rescue, if she saw a cop and felt she couldn't escape from them (even if they was on the television or something) she'd get to the other side of the room, tail would puff up, ears would go back and she would quietly growl at them until she couldn't see them any more.

She also associated going outside alone with bad things happening, she refused point blank to go outside without having someone with her. She'd literally stand in the doorway refusing to go outside unless me, my mum, Tigger or Ebony's boyfriend Tom went outside. I could leave the door open and she wouldn't go outside even with loads of chances unless one of us went outside with her.

Another thing she used to do is she'd raid rubbish out of the bin then guard it like she was imitating Gollum from lord of the rings ("Myyyyyyyyyyyy Preciousssssssssss" kinda thing) and she wouldn't let anyone take it off her until she was sure there was no food in the rubbish. I had to watch her with that because she had a sensitive tummy that would easily get upset.

Before Tom (her boyfriend) died, she used to hide behind him for protection from the scaries, like when a wasp got into the house, she saw it and hid behind Tom and Tom stood there growling at it until I hit it with the fly swat then made sure it was dead by drowning it. I hate wasps, I'm scared of them
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 03:40 PM
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Ask "cute" chiro to help? Or you could just ask me to move in with you. I secretly love cleaning when I feel like a duracell rabbit. My favorite bit is mopping.
Hey, my favorite bit is moping!
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 03:41 PM
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This is my favorite Catcher in the Rye line:
"The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of the mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one."
which it seems may have come from an analyst - Wilhelm Stekel

I never thought it was a great book, but I did find it very funny even though I wanted to whack Holden most of the time. Funny but insufferable.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 03:43 PM
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Hey, my favorite bit is moping!
We were made for each other...

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Old Aug 12, 2018, 03:44 PM
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Will I be seeing you on an episode of Hoarders?
The Collyer brothers got nothing on una.

I used to hate cleaning when 2ex was around and would “supervuse” but not actually help. Now it’s like self-care.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 03:47 PM
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I clean for the dog sitter when I go out of town, to procrastinate from grading, and before my twice yearly dinner parties.
That is pretty much it except for the every couple of day pet hair sweeping.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 03:52 PM
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I think If I lived with just pets, I would not clean as much as I do.

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Old Aug 12, 2018, 03:56 PM
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I guess after opinions here, I decided to give H an out and said “Well , we would not have been able to go down to the shore for the day anyway for our anniversary because nobody but us knows how to give the dog her insulin shot. He said exactly.
So, I put this one to rest.

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Old Aug 12, 2018, 03:56 PM
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The Collyer brothers got nothing on una.

I used to hate cleaning when 2ex was around and would “supervuse” but not actually help. Now it’s like self-care.
I think clutter can provide security and safety. I like the idea of booby traps in corridors and doorways to ensnare intruders. I think I would like to retreat but maybe to a forest.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 03:58 PM
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*leaves some oreos lying around on the table beside the couch*

I should go to bed
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:05 PM
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I guess after opinions here, I decided to give H an out and said “We’ll, we would not have been able to go to down to the shore for the day anyway for our anniversary because nobody but us knows how to give the dog her insulin shot. He said exactly.
So, I put this one to rest.
Perhaps you could still do something special to celebrate your anniversary on the weekend. But tell H that you want him to organise it, but you could drop hints.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:07 PM
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It's not one of my favourite books either-but it did make me call everyone a phony for a while.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:10 PM
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Don't be sorry for telling somebody the truth I agree my mom can be like that a lot, I just don't have a lot of people making me aware of it.
I wasn't sorry for telling you the truth, I was sorry you were being given a crappy present that's hard to get out of.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:10 PM
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I did not mind Catcher in the Rye, nor did C. I liked it much better than most of the other books I had to read for school.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:14 PM
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For school we had:

Lord of the files=
The outsiders- I didn't this one.
Chinese cinderella- This one was awesome!
Roll of thunder hear my cry
An inspector calls
Wuthering heights
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:17 PM
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I googled the brothers on youtube. I just find it sad seeing everything they had collected and how they passed away.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:30 PM
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For school we had:

Lord of the files=
The outsiders- I didn't this one.
Chinese cinderella- This one was awesome!
Roll of thunder hear my cry
An inspector calls
Wuthering heights
I have loved Wuthering Heights since the first time I read it in high school. I still remember the day we got it in class!! I think it was my 2nd period class and I read it the rest of the day through all of my other classes I could not put it down and then read late into the night. I devoured it so fast. And have read it many times since! For one birthday about 20 years ago or something my mom bought me a really old copy she'd found in an antique store. It was a rare thing, that she actually 'knew' my favorite book of all time and bought it for me! That's the copy I read now. I love love love the smell of old books.

And my favorite movie version is the 1939 (I think?) with Laurence Olivier and Merle Oberon. *swoon*!
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:33 PM
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we are home! i started the laundry and then ate a little lunch. CODA meeting in 2 hours.

Despite my stress on the way OUT of town, I had a really really wonderful weekend and the drive home was much less stressful. I thanked h for keeping his hands on the wheel the whole drive home.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:33 PM
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I have loved Wuthering Heights since the first time I read it in high school. I still remember the day we got it in class!! I think it was my 2nd period class and I read it the rest of the day through all of my other classes I could not put it down and then read late into the night. I devoured it so fast. And have read it many times since! For one birthday about 20 years ago or something my mom bought me a really old copy she'd found in an antique store. It was a rare thing, that she actually 'knew' my favorite book of all time and bought it for me! That's the copy I read now. I love love love the smell of old books.
I really liked it too. I liked Heathcliff, he was the perfect villain to hate but you could see his pain.

"and nothing that G-d or Satan could inflict would have parted us, you, of your own will, did it."
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:36 PM
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Wooooo!

I hope your meeting goes well Artiee
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:39 PM
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I wanted everyone in Wuthering Heights to just die. I cannot abide any of the Bronte books.
I do like Jane Austin - I find her books witty. And Trollope too.
The Bronte Sisters would not know witty if it rose up and bit them.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:41 PM
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Cake....

I've just finished watching You've Got Mail for the first time. Brilliant movie - you're right, I love it.


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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:44 PM
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I wanted everyone in Wuthering Heights to just die. I cannot abide any of the Bronte books.
I do like Jane Austin - I find her books witty. And Trollope too.
The Bronte Sisters would not know witty if it rose up and bit them.

I was waiting for you to chime in with your love of all things bronte!
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:46 PM
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I really liked it too. I liked Heathcliff, he was the perfect villain to hate but you could see his pain.

"and nothing that G-d or Satan could inflict would have parted us, you, of your own will, did it."

“I have not broken your heart - you have broken it; and in breaking it, you have broken mine.”

“My love for Linton is like the foliage in the woods: time will change it, I'm well aware, as winter changes the trees. My love for Heathcliff resembles the eternal rocks beneath: a source of little visible delight, but necessary. Nelly, I am Healthcliff! He's always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than I am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being.”

(sorry SD)
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:49 PM
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I don't think that word "sorry" means what many seem to think it does seeing as how it is used a lot where the sayer is decidedly not sorry.
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