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Old Aug 12, 2018, 04:55 PM
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I don't think that word "sorry" means what many seem to think it does seeing as how it is used a lot where the sayer is decidedly not sorry.



(well, at least I stopped with 2.)
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 05:00 PM
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I loathe Austen. But I also have no use for Charlotte or Emily Bronte. One of Anne’s novels was OK.

I liked Jane Eyre when I first read it at 13 and hated it two years later.

Thomas Hardy any day over those ladies.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 05:04 PM
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I didn’t read any of the required reading in school. I went to a not so great inner city public school. Most of the students and teachers didn’t care much. We (the students) would go buy cliff notes and just look at those to skim by for any class that had required reading.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 05:04 PM
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I find Hardy too grim as a writing style as well.
I like witty sentences. The topic can be grim, but the writing does not need to follow.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 05:23 PM
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Another book I've read multiple times that I first read in college is Joan Didion Play It as It Lays. Used to have a copy but I can't find it anymore so haven't read it in a long time.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 05:39 PM
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Changing the subject entirely...

Many's the time I've thought, "If we could get this woman out of her abusive relationship and into a nice house with an adequate income, then we could start thinking about her mental health."
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 05:43 PM
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Why would you be thinking about anyone else's mental health in the first place? How does this even come up? And why just women?
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 05:44 PM
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I am confused about why some posts get the hug thing.
Of course, I am not all the certain about the hug button in general, but I don't get what the point of the hug button for a reasonably unemotional statement post would be.
If someone has made a sequence of emotional posts and then posts, "Oh well. Off to bed", then that gets a hug too.

It's not so much what they say as how much support I think they need.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 05:46 PM
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But then I have also had cats that I raised from tiny kittenhood who came from the equivalent of upper middle class, cat Montessori, natural organic food fed, hand woven linen whelping bed families who also had quirks and who would run and hide every time anyone came to the house, even from people who were there all the time.
Cats have quirks no matter their background in my experience.
"There is no such thing as a sane cat."
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 05:47 PM
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Yes, you could. Choosing not to do so is quite different from being unable to do so.(stern professor voice).
Easily fixed, Lemoncake. Just choose to do it!
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 05:48 PM
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Changing the subject entirely...

Many's the time I've thought, "If we could get this woman out of her abusive relationship and into a nice house with an adequate income, then we could start thinking about her mental health."
I agree entirely in the last year since i have been in govt housing and not worried about finances have been the best 12-18 months in therapy i have been more invested in the work. The previous 4 years after leaving my ex i was kind of leaning on my T. Now my ex is leaving to go back to his hometown to look after his parents i think there will be more productivity in this aea.

But i agree with SD why limit to women there are plenty males in abusive relationships
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 05:49 PM
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...I'm an emotional woman...
I prefer to think of you as warm and passionate.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 05:51 PM
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Tissues. Or, just not RED roses. ***** willow branches maybe.

Eta - uh - weeping willow branches?!
Toadstools.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 05:53 PM
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I don't think that word "sorry" means what many seem to think it does seeing as how it is used a lot where the sayer is decidedly not sorry.
What, like when people say sorry not sorry?
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 06:06 PM
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Why would you be thinking about anyone else's mental health in the first place?
Um.. Empathy?

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How does this even come up?
Well, I did say I was changing the subject. Something I thought of while reading another thread,.

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And why just women?
Not just women. But on PC, it seems to be women more than men.

I find gender-neutral language dehumanising. Or more to the point, it takes me an effort of will to use it. You will recall how I was uncomfortable that you had a "sibling", when it was quite clearly your brother. Not fond of "spouse" or "person", either, if it is a specific person.

[I think I got this from my mother.]


Anyway, the point is, that people with real problems probably won't get much - certainly not enough - from therapy, in my humble opinion.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 06:12 PM
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I do not disagree that money and safe housing are useful things for anyone to have regardless of how they identify. The way it was written did not sound empathetic to me.
I prefer sibling and parent and spouse and person. I do not find it dehumanizing. But even if I did - I would not mind it.
I don't recall your response to my writing style, but I will believe you.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 06:15 PM
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I think in gendered terms and then translate.

And sometimes I forget to translate.

So sue me.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 06:16 PM
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I prefer to think of you as warm and passionate.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 06:18 PM
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Need advice: how do I stop emotionally investing into my H's health? He's doing it again today, this time it's a headache. I told him it's just a headache and his response is: "What if it's something worse? Do you want that responsibility if I die?" Wtf? I need to learn to not let this affect me or else I'm going to have another breakdown. I just yelled at him to shut up I hate this so much!
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 06:29 PM
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Need advice: how do I stop emotionally investing into my H's health? He's doing it again today, this time it's a headache. I told him it's just a headache and his response is: "What if it's something worse? Do you want that responsibility if I die?" Wtf? I need to learn to not let this affect me or else I'm going to have another breakdown. I just yelled at him to shut up I hate this so much!

Ugh, I'm sorry--sounds like he's trying to put all this on you. I can understand your reaction. I've read before that if it's the worst headache of your life, then you should go to the ER (since could be, say, aneurysm or meningitis) but otherwise might not help. Maybe tell him to wait it out a bit or see if ibuprofen or tylenol helps? Hugs...
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 06:30 PM
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Maybe you should make some sort of behavior contract with consequences for him.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 06:34 PM
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So I emailed p-doc to ask if some of my recent psychological issues could be due to recent med switch. She suggested a few different med options (both involving stuff I have, since I switched to this while mid-prescription), then added "Or maybe you should do an intensive outpatient program for alcohol use, since that can help with anxiety." The thing is, I'm working on the alcohol use stuff with T, and anxiety is not my concern right now, it's another psychological symptom. So I'm maybe a little bothered that she suggested that? Because I think this is a negative med side effect going on here (especially as I've had negative reactions to SSRIs and SNRIs before--this is just a different one). And I just changed meds a few weeks ago, so it seems like that could be what's contributing to symptoms, because these are new?


Suddenly feeling awkward about allowing her and T to communicate...because I want to have a very different conversation with T tomorrow. Hoping she won't contact him about it.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 06:40 PM
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Is the negative side effect anxiety?
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 06:43 PM
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Changing the subject entirely...

Many's the time I've thought, "If we could get this woman out of her abusive relationship and into a nice house with an adequate income, then we could start thinking about her mental health."
Youre virginia woolfe!
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 06:45 PM
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More like Abraham Maslow.
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