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Old Oct 18, 2019, 12:50 PM
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Yes, we are charming aren't we? I'm beginning to understand the colluding thing a bit more I think....
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 12:51 PM
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Explain it to me artie!
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 12:55 PM
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She is still very skittish, was a feral rescue. If she catches me looking at her eyes she takes off. When she lets us pet her, she closes her eyes.
I read somewhere that cats doing that to each other interpret that as aggressive.

Cue me and my sisters trying to have staring matches with Belly.

She might be older- but have you tried hand feeding to build trust?

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Old Oct 18, 2019, 12:58 PM
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Okay. Though if you assume he’ll be there even after you’ve quit or canceled, and he assumes you’ll be there even after you’ve quit or canceled, why even send messages quitting or canceling?

Forgive me, I’m just genuinely puzzled here.
I just wanted to tell him I was angry about being ignored. But now I can see that doesn't tell him what's going on.

Threatening to quit gives me the sense of control. Though I've officially done that more than 6 times already.
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 12:59 PM
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She is still very skittish, was a feral rescue. If she catches me looking at her eyes she takes off. When she lets us pet her, she closes her eyes.
Interesting that she takes off. My dad used to play a game with his grandcat - he held a toy on a string in front of her and would ask, do you like me? And raise the toy up and down, making the cat nod her head yes. Then he would swing the toy back and forth, and ask, do you love grandma? Making the cat move her head no.

I always thought this was hilarious! But i wonder if it would help penny with eye contact with you?

I was so unconnected with my cats. So unattached. I had nooooo idea.
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 01:02 PM
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It was as if my worst nightmare had come true. My t session was temporarily changed to today and I always hate that as I worry she will forget I'm coming if it's not the usual time. Got there and knocked on the door. She didn't answer. I knocked again. Still no answer. I waited 7 minutes and then left. All I could think of was that T had let me down and forgotten about me. I wasn't cared about, I didn't matter. A minute later I had a text from T...she was in the toilet. I replied that I assumed she had forgotten about me. T replied saying of course she hadn't... I was too angry to respond. I went to sit somewhere to try and stop shaking, After a few minutes I realised that although I wanted to go home and be angry, I'd only be hurting myself and would feel far worse. So I text T to see if I could go back. T replied yes it was fine if I wanted to, but she would understand if I was too upset. I did go back. It did mess up the session a bit. I was shaking and angry. T explained she'd had a client before me, needed the toilet quickly but it had been occupied by family member. She was very apologetic. All I could think about was that she didn't care because she'd seen someone else who clearly mattered more and the family member mattered more than I obviously do. I tried to talk about other stuff but it was hard. Now I've got even longer until I see her again and just feel terrible.

I understand why that was so distressing! I'm glad it wasn't that she'd forgotten about you. But it sucks that you weren't able to have a good session.
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 01:02 PM
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Artie, it is such good news about your session yesterday - it sounds like your t had time to process as well and having this one was the best thing for both of you so that you can now move on. Really pleased for you.
Thank you, yep I agree she must have done some processing of her own since last week. Yesterday did feel like it was the best thing for both of us, and I do feel like I can move on now. Feeling pretty blessed actually.
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 01:02 PM
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Mom called me. Dad didn't have a heart attack but they are going to admit him overnight for observation. So good news but still anxiety provoking.

Hugs...I'm glad it wasn't a heart attack and that they're going to keep observing him. I hope it turns out to be something minor.
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 01:10 PM
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Wow, sounds like you really had some valuable insights! You've really done some good work with this t.

Yeah, today turned out to be a really good session. He asked some difficult questions, but they were ones that I had to face. And he was very understanding and empathetic through all of it. I'm glad I decided to go back to him. Because, while he definitely has his faults, he's really good with stuff like this. It really feels like he gets it. I'm trying to not think about whether that might be because his son is in fact on the spectrum...because I know that ultimately, that doesn't matter to my therapy. He did use an example of how he might feel if his son had cancer--things like thinking it was unfair, being angry at other people whose kids were healthy, maybe even a bit angry at his son for being sick. (This is not to compare autism to cancer, but I think he was trying to avoid saying, "If my son was on the spectrum" for obvious reasons.) It felt really validating.


I may write up the session (or parts of it) later, will be a lot to process.
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 01:13 PM
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It was as if my worst nightmare had come true... Now I've got even longer until I see her again and just feel terrible.
That is horrible! Nothing bad REALLY happened, but your body believes it did. Not to presume, but thats how i felt when i couldnt get my presecription refill last week. I did everything right, but i was abandoned. I was sick from head to toe, like every blood cell was agitated.

I kept telling myself, i KNOW what this is about. I havent been going to therapy all this time for nothing, even tho right now it FEELS like it! In the past, this feeling would have taken my SELF over. But not this time. I can exercise and shower to get rid of the hormones, i can nap to clear my head, i can write and share on PC to get some emotional clarity. All of that is integrating this horrible feeling FROM MY PAST. Well, i say all that NOW. Last week, i wasnt as clear.
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 01:13 PM
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Explain it to me artie!

Well in my mind anyway, and I may be completely wrong here, but to me it feels like maybe L worked so hard at being attuned to me and stuff, and maybe she was a little bit too empathetic or something and started sorta feeeeeling what I was feeeeeling, so she started reacting to that and letting me get away with stuff (like coming less frequently when i used to do biweekly) instead of being all professional and logical or something? I don't know. and she saw that after the fact and didn't want it to happen again?? ymmv.

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Old Oct 18, 2019, 01:21 PM
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That is horrible! Nothing bad REALLY happened, but your body believes it did. Not to presume, but thats how i felt when i couldnt get my presecription refill last week. I did everything right, but i was abandoned. I was sick from head to toe, like every blood cell was agitated.

I kept telling myself, i KNOW what this is about. I havent been going to therapy all this time for nothing, even tho right now it FEELS like it! In the past, this feeling would have taken my SELF over. But not this time. I can exercise and shower to get rid of the hormones, i can nap to clear my head, i can write and share on PC to get some emotional clarity. All of that is integrating this horrible feeling FROM MY PAST. Well, i say all that NOW. Last week, i wasnt as clear.
Yes that's totally it, my body believes it did. It's stuff from the past flooding me and believing it's happening all over again. Thanks for getting it tho I'm sorry you experienced this in a different context. I'm still feeling really upset and near tears even though my mind knows it's all fine and nothing has gone wrong or changed. It's just the horror of getting there and T not answering just sticks in my mind. And it's not logical but I'm so angry with her.
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 01:21 PM
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I understand why that was so distressing! I'm glad it wasn't that she'd forgotten about you. But it sucks that you weren't able to have a good session.
Thank you. I feel so awful.
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 01:24 PM
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You might like this video Una.

I love this song. It's on my car playlist. But this video made me cry sad tears. I want to experience romantic love that doesn't hurt, but I'm never going to. It also made me think about how I never look my therapist in the eyes. I wonder if I would feel loved if we looked at each other and what he would feel, if anything.
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 01:26 PM
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Yeah, today turned out to be a really good session. He asked some difficult questions, but they were ones that I had to face. And he was very understanding and empathetic through all of it. I'm glad I decided to go back to him. Because, while he definitely has his faults, he's really good with stuff like this. It really feels like he gets it. I'm trying to not think about whether that might be because his son is in fact on the spectrum...because I know that ultimately, that doesn't matter to my therapy. He did use an example of how he might feel if his son had cancer--things like thinking it was unfair, being angry at other people whose kids were healthy, maybe even a bit angry at his son for being sick. (This is not to compare autism to cancer, but I think he was trying to avoid saying, "If my son was on the spectrum" for obvious reasons.) It felt really validating.


I may write up the session (or parts of it) later, will be a lot to process.
Really glad it's going so well with your T LT. It's lovely to hear that after all the stress you've been through recently. Definitely sounds like it was the best decision to go back to him. And I relate as my child is on the severe end of the autistic spectrum. It's hard.
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 01:35 PM
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I love this song. It's on my car playlist. But this video made me cry sad tears. I want to experience romantic love that doesn't hurt, but I'm never going to. It also made me think about how I never look my therapist in the eyes. I wonder if I would feel loved if we looked at each other and what he would feel, if anything.
They're one of my favourite bands.

It might not seem like it when you're struggling now- but it's still possible.

You'll get to looking in T's eyes when you get there. There's this Winnie the Pooh quote I like that goes something like:

How do spell love?
You don't you feel it.

You can always tell .
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 01:57 PM
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Really glad it's going so well with your T LT. It's lovely to hear that after all the stress you've been through recently. Definitely sounds like it was the best decision to go back to him. And I relate as my child is on the severe end of the autistic spectrum. It's hard.

Thanks, Lonely. It feels like he's glad I came back, too. Like we appreciate and understand each other more now, or something.

I'm sorry your child is on the severe end of the spectrum. How old? Is he or she verbal at all? (Feel free to PM if you'd rather not post on here.)
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 01:58 PM
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Thanks, Lonely. It feels like he's glad I came back, too. Like we appreciate and understand each other more now, or something.

I'm sorry your child is on the severe end of the spectrum. How old? Is he or she verbal at all? (Feel free to PM if you'd rather not post on here.)
Will pm you
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Fuzzy, did you explain to him what happened? And that hes NOT "next!"? And ask him if he needs a new bunkmate?

What did he say?
He said, "Minion, we do not need a kitten. That dog-thing can go too. Pick me up. Now put me down. Pet me, but not too much." Then he bit me, but not hard because he loves me.

I think at Christmas (ish) we may end up with a kitten or two. Maybe. I've been joking to friends about getting "guilt kittens" when the kids' dad moves out, but if that's not soon the timing will make new kittens seem a little too close to reality for comfort.
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Mom called me. Dad didn't have a heart attack but they are going to admit him overnight for observation. So good news but still anxiety provoking.

I am glad he did not have a heart attack
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 03:58 PM
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What was interesting, too, is that one of my revelations was that maybe a big part of why I drink more now (as opposed to, say, 10 years ago) is as a way of dealing with stuff with my D. And T said he'd already been thinking that for a while now.
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 04:13 PM
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Yes that's totally it, my body believes it did. It's stuff from the past flooding me and believing it's happening all over again. Thanks for getting it tho I'm sorry you experienced this in a different context. I'm still feeling really upset and near tears even though my mind knows it's all fine and nothing has gone wrong or changed. It's just the horror of getting there and T not answering just sticks in my mind. And it's not logical but I'm so angry with her.
I felt like crying that whole day and i NEVER cry. But they say crying flushes out some tear hormones or something. I sound like Sheldon of big bang. We should have a warm beverage! i was looking to change my PCP who ive been with for like 30 plus years because of this. Angry, who's angry? But i cant go thru this again, my body cant take it.
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No—the road runner was just way smarter than the coyote. Only the less intelligent need wiles.
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