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Old Feb 22, 2020, 10:55 PM
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I think the instructor wants more. One of the given examples is "write a story in which every sentence begins with a letter of the alphabet, in order. One sentence must be one word. One must be exactly 100 words." That sort of thing.
So youre blanking on the exercise portion? The coming of age part was confusing me.

Plus i think your instructor is making the class do her work for her.
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Old Feb 22, 2020, 10:58 PM
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So youre blanking on the exercise portion? The coming of age part was confusing me.
Yeah, it's a general exercise. Doesn't have to be about a coming of age.

How about, Write a dialogue between a character and their therapist?
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Old Feb 23, 2020, 12:37 AM
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My motivation to do anything is up and down. I slept for a few hour last night, but couldn't stay asleep because
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Today I a took a few a few hour nap in the evening. H is now out driving so I did one of my discussions and cleaned more.

My 10 year old had another meltdown earlier for an hour that I thought was going to result in another crisis walk in visit. Thankfully I was able to calm him down after a while and we played cards.

Really weird that given how things have been lately that it's been 2 weeks since we heard anything from our CPS caseworker. It's really unusual and my anxiety is in overdrive thinking the worst outcome.
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Old Feb 23, 2020, 07:57 AM
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An update regarding my situation since around the time I disappeared in the fall. This is a long story, not all that related to my therapy, but I promise if you like drama or plot twists it's worth reading. I swear on my cat's life that everything in this post is 100% true.
There is some discussion of self harm, not in any kind of graphic detail.

Some of you may remember I was getting into dealing with my "trauma," asking myself if it was really that bad, etc. Those are still questions I ask myself, and my T, repeatedly.

But about six months ago I was on a subreddit for self harm content, mostly jokes about self harm though there are some serious posts. It was 4am. I saw a post asking "does anyone else feel guilty if they go a while without self harming because they're such a terrible awful bad person who deserves to be punished?"
I replied with "yeah, turns out that's the childhood trauma." The original poster replied "ditto :c"
If I believed in greater forces in the universe I'd say that was some cosmic foreshadowing.

I recommended some cptsd resources to the original poster and talked a bit about the work I'd done in therapy on shame and guilt and not believing I deserved to be punished.
They responded saying their therapist had beat me to it, and talked a bit about their shame and guilt. The way they wrote about it felt like something I could have written.
I clicked on their profile and found a few older posts. On one they talked about being a terrible person but at least "having the decency" to hate and punish themselves. I replied to this post as well, and my comment began with "are you me?" and saying that I use literally the same phrase. There were a lot of eery similarities and it even occured to me that if I didn't know better it was almost like talking to myself.
Once again, foreshadowing.

Then silence.
We'd been going back and forth and just as things got interesting they stopped replying. Half an hour went by. It was like 5 or 6 am and I hadn't slept.

Half an hour later, their response to my paragraphs delving into trauma and guilt and shame and self harm as penance is "is your name [my name]?" It was first name last initial from before I'd changed my name a year prior, so it wasn't someone in my everyday life at least.
My mind started running through all the people who might have known me from my IOP or the recovery meetings I attend.

I message them, "do I know you?"
I see them typing. My heart is racing in my chest. I just spilled some of my deepest secrets to a stranger who then correctly guessed my real name.
"Well, the good news is I think I figured out why we have so much in common"
A second later
"It's almost like we're twins or something."
My jaw dropped. I responded "[twin's name?]" and got the reply "unfortunately yes."
the only thing I could think to say back was "Jesus ****ing Christ"

My fraternal twin and I had not spoken since 2012, when we were 17 and graduated high school.
She didn't know I'd been self harming in high school, and I didn't know she'd started in college.
She put things together from various autobiographical details in some earlier posts I'd made that were pretty uncommon, mention of a twin, mention of our parents' uncommon occupations, mentions of words our father had used a lot.

So that was fun. It happened when my therapist was gone for a month and when he came back I told him a lot had happened so I didn't have time to be upset, and to just pretend that I'd sulked for at least the first half of the session. Then I handed over printouts of my convo with my sister. My therapist's comments were "this sounds familiar. Wow, this sounds really familiar" and I was like yeah just keep reading. When he got to the big reveal he just put the papers down and stared at me and said "no. Really?" And I was like "yep."

So now my therapist kind of has a trump card whenever I say maybe my childhood wasn't really that bad and I'm just being melodramatic or I made everything up.
Because my twin uses the exact same words and concepts. Despite having grown up in a secular household we both independently compared our guilt to a feeling of having original sin, both independently used the word "penance," both independently decided that different things about us were so shameful and bad and wrong that we were irredeemably bad and deserved to be punished. Oh and we both have BPD and PTSD.
Because y'know our childhood was so great.

* If anyone has a scarily good memory, you may remember that I used different pronouns and gendered language for my sister before. My story isn't changing, she's just trans, which I didn't find out until we started speaking again.

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Old Feb 23, 2020, 11:17 AM
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Gonna go to a class at Church today before the service. Hmmm wanting to interact with people. This has to be the meds. Lol. I bet Pastor T would be proud of me, but does it count if it's the meds? Hugs Kit
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Old Feb 23, 2020, 11:27 AM
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It's a great sign that the meds are helping you. Progress is progress, Kit.
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Old Feb 23, 2020, 11:47 AM
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Wow, LabRat, that's kind of amazing and also sounds very painful and difficult. Have you talked to your sister any more since then? Hugs if wanted. Thanks for sharing that.
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Old Feb 23, 2020, 12:30 PM
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LabRat, I'm glad to see you back. Wow. How has it been reconnecting with your sister?
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Old Feb 23, 2020, 12:36 PM
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Here's my therapy-related thought for the day: I remembered when the kids' dad and I first went to see my t and she said that sometimes it takes a couple sessions, sometimes longer. I wanted to know what "longer" meant, and she said six months.

I want to go back and pat myself on the head and say "There, there, dear."

It's been 4 1/2 years.
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Old Feb 23, 2020, 02:50 PM
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Here's my therapy-related thought for the day: I remembered when the kids' dad and I first went to see my t and she said that sometimes it takes a couple sessions, sometimes longer. I wanted to know what "longer" meant, and she said six months.

It's been 4 1/2 years.
That's how they get you.

Changing topics, does anyone else deliberately select the orphan bananas at the grocery store? You know, the one or two people tear off the bunch they select and leave behind? Usually they pile up towards the ends of the stand.

Anyway, I do, because generally they are of the same quality and they also are a little less ripe so they'll last longer (bananas ripen more slowly when detached from their bunch), but apparently the women staring at me this morning in the store thought it was odd.
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Old Feb 23, 2020, 04:08 PM
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You mean "All the single ladies, all the single ladies! Woo-hoo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo!"

They were probably wondering why you werent doing the dance I always do.
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Old Feb 23, 2020, 05:13 PM
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I go for the whole bunch. We go through them quickly anyway. I LOVE bananas and believe they are at their peak deliciousness when they are bright yellow. My wife likes bananas but thinks they taste best at the somewhat brown stage.

My wife doesn't usually get to eat very many bananas...
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Old Feb 23, 2020, 05:22 PM
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You mean "All the single ladies, all the single ladies! Woo-hoo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo!"

They were probably wondering why you werent doing the dance I always do.
Of course you do.

I just feel sorry for the orphans.
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Old Feb 23, 2020, 05:23 PM
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It depends on how many bananas I am buying. I don't have any aversion to the loose ones, but if I am getting a lot (which I usually do because my dogs love them and I never get to eat one by myself - I have to share with two dogs) I just get a bunch. Also I usually get them at costco because they are a lot cheaper there and they only come in bunches
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Old Feb 23, 2020, 05:31 PM
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The two-weeks-late NYT Sunday crossword I’m working on today has clues in emoji. Gak.
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Old Feb 23, 2020, 06:34 PM
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I love a good crossword, but clues in emoji is a deal breaker for me
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Tomorrow starts week 3 of my backache. Really getting tired of this mess. On threw upside, my neurologist gave me a new med to prevent migraines hopefully.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 01:52 AM
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An update regarding my situation since around the time I disappeared in the fall. This is a long story, not all that related to my therapy, but I promise if you like drama or plot twists it's worth reading. I swear on my cat's life that everything in this post is 100% true.

There is some discussion of self harm, not in any kind of graphic detail.


Some of you may remember I was getting into dealing with my "trauma," asking myself if it was really that bad, etc. Those are still questions I ask myself, and my T, repeatedly.


But about six months ago I was on a subreddit for self harm content, mostly jokes about self harm though there are some serious posts. It was 4am. I saw a post asking "does anyone else feel guilty if they go a while without self harming because they're such a terrible awful bad person who deserves to be punished?"

I replied with "yeah, turns out that's the childhood trauma." The original poster replied "ditto :c"

If I believed in greater forces in the universe I'd say that was some cosmic foreshadowing.


I recommended some cptsd resources to the original poster and talked a bit about the work I'd done in therapy on shame and guilt and not believing I deserved to be punished.

They responded saying their therapist had beat me to it, and talked a bit about their shame and guilt. The way they wrote about it felt like something I could have written.

I clicked on their profile and found a few older posts. On one they talked about being a terrible person but at least "having the decency" to hate and punish themselves. I replied to this post as well, and my comment began with "are you me?" and saying that I use literally the same phrase. There were a lot of eery similarities and it even occured to me that if I didn't know better it was almost like talking to myself.

Once again, foreshadowing.


Then silence.

We'd been going back and forth and just as things got interesting they stopped replying. Half an hour went by. It was like 5 or 6 am and I hadn't slept.


Half an hour later, their response to my paragraphs delving into trauma and guilt and shame and self harm as penance is "is your name [my name]?" It was first name last initial from before I'd changed my name a year prior, so it wasn't someone in my everyday life at least.

My mind started running through all the people who might have known me from my IOP or the recovery meetings I attend.


I message them, "do I know you?"

I see them typing. My heart is racing in my chest. I just spilled some of my deepest secrets to a stranger who then correctly guessed my real name.

"Well, the good news is I think I figured out why we have so much in common"

A second later

"It's almost like we're twins or something."

My jaw dropped. I responded "[twin's name?]" and got the reply "unfortunately yes."

the only thing I could think to say back was "Jesus ****ing Christ"


My fraternal twin and I had not spoken since 2012, when we were 17 and graduated high school.

She didn't know I'd been self harming in high school, and I didn't know she'd started in college.

She put things together from various autobiographical details in some earlier posts I'd made that were pretty uncommon, mention of a twin, mention of our parents' uncommon occupations, mentions of words our father had used a lot.


So that was fun. It happened when my therapist was gone for a month and when he came back I told him a lot had happened so I didn't have time to be upset, and to just pretend that I'd sulked for at least the first half of the session. Then I handed over printouts of my convo with my sister. My therapist's comments were "this sounds familiar. Wow, this sounds really familiar" and I was like yeah just keep reading. When he got to the big reveal he just put the papers down and stared at me and said "no. Really?" And I was like "yep."


So now my therapist kind of has a trump card whenever I say maybe my childhood wasn't really that bad and I'm just being melodramatic or I made everything up.

Because my twin uses the exact same words and concepts. Despite having grown up in a secular household we both independently compared our guilt to a feeling of having original sin, both independently used the word "penance," both independently decided that different things about us were so shameful and bad and wrong that we were irredeemably bad and deserved to be punished. Oh and we both have BPD and PTSD.

Because y'know our childhood was so great.


* If anyone has a scarily good memory, you may remember that I used different pronouns and gendered language for my sister before. My story isn't changing, she's just trans, which I didn't find out until we started speaking again.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 10:34 AM
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You mean "All the single ladies, all the single ladies! Woo-hoo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo!"

They were probably wondering why you werent doing the dance I always do.
Than you for making me smile.

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Old Feb 24, 2020, 10:35 AM
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Tomorrow starts week 3 of my backache. Really getting tired of this mess. On threw upside, my neurologist gave me a new med to prevent migraines hopefully.


Semi regular massages helped a bit with mine.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 11:15 AM
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New flatmate person moved in, in September still haven't met her. There have been no notes left for me in the bathroom, zero cleaning charts made either!

The only thing is that like now

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Still wouldn't go back to the girl before even if you paid me.

I've also reached 40 days for duolingo!
New words: Arbre = Tree. And want = désire or vouloir
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 11:18 AM
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I love a good crossword, but clues in emoji is a deal breaker for me
I agree!

But would only accept that if it was online and not printed.
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hey guys it been some time again .im trying so hard to terminate with my T.i have been meeting with a new emp therapist whos job is to determine what might be best for me and helpful.i have a meeting set up with a med consult that will be followed up with my NP so i dont need to keep meeting with the psychiatrist. my NP would manage any meds if it is felt i would benefit from it . now i need to find a new T this temp therapist can refer me to someone who will then sent me to the appropriate therapy using the recommendations of the temp T i am seeing now . i am still seeing the therapist i have seen for years and it is so time to stop but im finding it hard . the temp T asked me what is the worst that coud happen and i told her the T would make me feel horrible about myself etc... so last week i asked her how she was feeling her response was strange . she said i have been better .iv'e told you i need surgery haven't i . sshe proceeded to talk about it to me about it . nothing serious .and wont affect my sessions dont know why i needed to know but with these responses i kind of knew the session was not going to be great . my goal these days is to cut down the stress i always feel. so on my way to therapy i got a text that one more person had sighed up for a class i was running after therapy and i was not prepared for it and was adding some stress even though i did have an acceptable solution i wanted to talk about the personal stress and how to minimize this . she had a different idea of how i should deal with this and that was to tell the person that i was unwilling to have her at my class .even if it was not her fault that i was not told she was signed up . anyway her solution was causing me huge stress just talking about it . she gave me the impression that this was the only acceptable answer and i need to do this . i said something and had the nervous laugh i usually have when im upset and she got kind of cross with me and said she didnt see anything funny and that i needed to cut down my stress level and that this was serious . that got me even more upset because i was scared she was now mad at me .my response to this is to just say nothing because i already messed up with my nervous laugh . my head was spinning to come up with an appropriate response that would stop the was this session was goin .even if i had to lie . then she started to push me big time to talk to her i couldn't because i was scared and worried . it is like she sets up this trap for me that has no right response and the only end is that i feel like **** and she gets to lecture me . so the longer i am unable to respond she starts to mock me by saying things very mockingly "oh now you're going to sit there looking all sad and wounded, ant tell me you are all scared and that i hate you etc... " she did this with mixing in the talk to me thing . the problem is i did feel this way but couldn't say it do to her mocking me and it would open me up to more sarcastic responses . so i was even more unable to respond .so because of this she started in on how she is feeling . she starts to cry big time saying how she is feeling like a failure,i cant take the crying but still cant respond. she goes on saying how she is suppose to be helping her but i wont let her ,all this time crying . OMG it was a nightmare .i wanted to run, to leave but i knew she would block my way .i faked my way to an ok place so i could leave and this is how it has been left.i need to stop seeing her but feel she will go nuts on me and i have good reason to .my hubby says i should sent her a deer john letter and block her number but im not like that and would hate it if someone did this to me .and she would call me relentlessly until she talks to me to convince me to come back . the temp therapist i am seeing said maybe she doesn't want me thinking she abandoned me and that she might be lrlieved she is that much closer to being able to retire .she keeps talking about it .but after or last session i think it is about her not me
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