Pearson-Marr Archetype Indicator

The orphan 100% The destroyer 95% The Sage and The Magician both 90% what a combination - this is very interesting thanks for the links everyone.

Sage 100%, Creator/Magician 95%, Warrior/Ruler 85% are the top ones for me. And Orphan/Caregiver 30% the bottom.

There are many sages on this forum

Heh, that sounds like good news for the rest of us!

The Sage 80%, then a tie between Caregiver and Magician at 75%.

I see that the website where we did the test also talks about the Enneagram - I just mentioned that on another thread this morning. I found that one very insightful and useful when I was younger. The way it explains main motivations and patterns of behavior and thought/emotional processes, as well as potential traps associated with each pattern, clarified a lot of things for me back then.

I love these kinds of quizzes! This one I've never come across before so thank you. It was a really interesting one.

Top 2 for me were The Orphan (95%) & The Destroyer (80%).

The description of The Orphan hits very close to home. It sort of describes my journey in therapy so far and the paternal/maternal transference and attachment I have struggled with my whole life.

Orphans are independent, self-reliant and are mistrustful of authority. Orphans, fearing exploitation, seek to regain the comfort of the womb and neonatal safety in the arms of loving parents. To fulfill their quest they must go through the agonies of the developmental stages they have missed.

That was interesting and explained why so many sages here.

My second place was destroyer/ruler with 80% and way down on the bottom by its lonely self was orphan.

The Sage95%
The Seeker90%
The Creator90%

The Destroyer85%
The Joker85%
The Magician85%

The Lover75%
The Orphan70%
The Ruler65%

The Innocent60%
The Caregiver55%
The Warrior55%

Interesting.

Creator 90 and caregiver 85

The Caregiver100%
The Creator50%
The Destroyer75%
The Innocent60%
The Joker20%
The Lover60%
The Magician30%
The Orphan95%
The Ruler70%
The Sage80%
The Seeker70%
The Warrior30%

Yep. I'm Florence Nightingale not a soldier!

Hmmm. My highest percentage of anything was 66%.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?!

got orphan, seeker, caregiver at 100%

I got Seeker at 95% which I find to be very accurate.
Sage, Caregiver, and Warrior were all tied at 85%.
My lowest was Lover at 40%.

I find it funny that for me Creator and Destroyer were equal scores at 65%

You selected "3" a lot

Orphan and lover 90%

Caregiver and Innocent at 80%, Creator, Magician, Seeker at 75%. eta: oh yeah my lowest were Joker at 45% and Ruler at 35%.

Yes, really interesting quiz, thanks!

I am fascinated by their ability to tweak my answers in such a way so as to say the same thing that I'd said in my answers (it's how all such tests work, there is no intelligence or actual interpretation, just a matter of serving us back our own words slightly rephrased) and yet get a result that has nothing to do with what I am like. Some of it is no doubt because the archetypes come from a foreign culture, but I think it's more than that. Creative use of synonyms, perhaps? Or simply that several of the questions just didn't apply to me, or were impossible to answer in a constructive/honest way?

Or perhaps it is that even in serving your words back to you (in a slightly different form), there's potentially an endless array of combinations of (synonyms of) your words to choose from? And, so it takes some 'skill' to pick the right one and so, that is where you might be seeing the gap? And, of course, that ties in with tests not capturing the complexity of people etc.

Oh, and to the actual test -- I got Orphan at 100%, followed by Destroyer at 80% something. It kinda sorta fits the bill but then again, I think I could make a similar case for a goodish number of the other archetypes as well (a bit like most of my horoscope readings).

Aren't creation and destruction similar in a way though? I mean, creation implies destruction and vice versa. That's how I see it at least. Like a cycle.

Yes I also think creation and destruction are intertwined and feed upon each-other. Just like many other pairs of apparent opposites.

I think it's not hard to come up with, describe and create questions that address specific stereotypes. IMO, the types reflect common patterns of several major human motivations and also what kinds of problems the associated drives and actions can lead to. How it can get out of balance. The individual types themselves of course are way simplistic. I have done lots of personality tests in my life, including more esoteric ones like this and more scientific ones, and never felt they were really mysterious. In my view, it's all based on creating stereotypes on whatever factors, then expanding and mixing them. Often there is a larger "system" it's all placed into as well as a context (i.e. motivations, cognitive styles, what sorts of interests and abilities people with certain natural motivations/traits tend to develop etc). I don't take these tests/ideologies very seriously but tend to enjoy them because I am fascinating by systems and the ideas behind them even if esoteric.

Really interest viewpoints. Thx

"After reconnecting with his ancient Peruvian roots..."

Uh.

I did not take the test. I'm too suspicious. What is being made of it on the other end?

My issue as I took the quiz was how much of it has likely been changed by meds. What did you do what that on the quiz?

I started on psych meds at 17. Then I spent four years ultra depressed and having side effects relevant tot he quiz questions, but I seemed to have my creativity and intuition about people. Then I got on atypical antipsychotics and lost my intuition about people and the world. Then I got on mood stabilizers and lost my creativity. It probably would be "easy to get in touch with [my] creative side" without meds, but I don't know for sure and it's not easy right now.

"I strive for objectivity" is highly influenced, I think, by my bipolar because being objective is one of the coping skills I've developed for managing the lies that my bipolar emotions often tell me, but would I be this objective without bipolar? Probably not since I'm INFP but I can't know.

What did you guys do about that? About how mental illness and psych meds have modified who you are? What did you put on the quiz? Who you are now? Who you think you might have been?

I quit them.

Medication I doubt would have affected my answers.

I have taken this quiz as far more legit that the usual Facebook quizes. It has a foundation in some real theories and expertise unlike the schmozzle of crap out there with no accompanying science or reserch to back it up. Karl Jung is pretty well recognized as a father of psychoanalysis. So too, I have done work with other thinkers on the Archetype idea and have gotten the same classifications.

Some (Jungian) books that have appealed to me (a great many reads on spirituality touch on Archetypes)::

Women Who Run With The Wolves
Goddesses in Every Woman (there is a men's version too)
5 Common Character Types in Literature