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Old Jun 27, 2024, 12:30 PM
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Old Jun 27, 2024, 12:54 PM
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L never even checked in today.

I'm sorry, Scarlet. Was she supposed to? Is it tomorrow you have a phone session? I hope if you talk to the backup T, they will help.
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Old Jun 27, 2024, 02:13 PM
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And now I have multiple blisters (?!) from trying to open a bottle of fizzy water.

Today, man....
If the bottle top is stubborn, try putting a thin tea towel over the top then twisting it. So it won’t cut in your hand. I usually just use the bottom of my T-shirt, but that’s not suitable behaviour for a lady 😂.

(I was watching episode 2 of Bridgeton. Didn’t finish it, go to maybe 25 mins of the episode).
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Old Jun 27, 2024, 02:18 PM
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If the bottle top is stubborn, try putting a thin tea towel over the top then twisting it. So it won’t cut in your hand. I usually just use the bottom of my T-shirt, but that’s not suitable behaviour for a lady 😂.

(I was watching episode 2 of Bridgeton. Didn’t finish it, go to maybe 25 mins of the episode).

I totally use the bottom of my T-shirt for twist-off metal bottle tops! I tend to drink San Pellegrino, which is usually in plastic bottles here (I do recycle them!), so easier to twist off.
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Old Jun 27, 2024, 02:19 PM
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In the middle of my virtual (because I'm away) session with Dr. T this morning, he had to turn off video and (I presume) step away twice to deal with urgent messages relating to the new office. Which was really awkward, though he was very apologetic and made up the time at the end.

Those messages led him to believe he won't be able to move next week, either (was originally supposed to be yesterday and tomorrow). Something about a complaint filed regarding his renovation of the office, I assume by another building tenant? He said they weren't even doing all that much and wasn't aware of needing a permit (which this person claimed he needed).

So...I'm probably meeting him in person at his old office Monday. Which feels a bit weird, as I've already said goodbye to it. I could always opt for virtual, but I'd rather meet in person if possible. I guess I can look at it as bonus time? And in a weird way, less pressure, as I've already done the "good-bye" thing. I might be there Wednesday, too (a session I thought was canceled due to the rescheduled move). Seems like everything will be up in the air for a bit. But I feel like I can manage that, which is more than I might have said, say, a year ago.
I wouldn’t classify office stuff as urgent to justify disturbing your session twice, but it sounds like you handled the interruptions and the uncertainty around Dr. T's office move quite well. It's great to hear that you feel more capable than you might have in the past.
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Old Jun 27, 2024, 02:25 PM
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I wouldn’t classify office stuff as urgent to justify disturbing your session twice, but it sounds like you handled the interruptions and the uncertainty around Dr. T's office move quite well. It's great to hear that you feel more capable than you might have in the past.

Thanks, Lemon! That's nice to hear.

I think the office stuff may have been urgent in the sense that it could have been postponing his move. So he might have had to contact the moving company to postpone, his coworkers, etc. Though it seems like it could have waited until after my session maybe?
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Old Jun 27, 2024, 03:10 PM
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I should say so, considering you're paying for his time!
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Old Jun 27, 2024, 03:27 PM
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Thanks, Lemon! That's nice to hear.

I think the office stuff may have been urgent in the sense that it could have been postponing his move. So he might have had to contact the moving company to postpone, his coworkers, etc. Though it seems like it could have waited until after my session maybe?
I know it’s all my own stuff about boundaries, but It just seems disrespectful to interrupt your process even if he did give you extra time at the end. A one off could be excusable, but twice in the same session?

It’s his responsibility to manage his business, without it impacting on you.
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Old Jun 27, 2024, 04:30 PM
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I know it’s all my own stuff about boundaries, but It just seems disrespectful to interrupt your process even if he did give you extra time at the end. A one off could be excusable, but twice in the same session?


It’s his responsibility to manage his business, without it impacting on you.
Goodness you wouldn't like my T then.... Couch 248: Curiouser and Curiouser

I often have interrupted sessions; the most I ever had in one session was five, and they were all different things (she did apologise and make up the time at the end).

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Old Jun 27, 2024, 09:32 PM
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Goodness you wouldn't like my T then.... Couch 248: Curiouser and Curiouser

I often have interrupted sessions; the most I ever had in one session was five, and they were all different things (she did apologise and make up the time at the end).

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Ugh, I'd really struggle with that. It seems she should do her best to keep the disruptions out of the time you're paying for.

One positive thing about my ex-T is that she kept her phone in her purse turned off during session.

Ex-MC always had his phone on (and not on silent, so I'd hear very clearly when he got texts, rather than just a buzz) and would sometimes say "I just have to check the number." The worst was a couple times when he said "I have a couple potential emergencies brewing, so I have to check." He worked with high-risk teens (plus, at the time, his wife being sick). Those times were difficult because it felt like any moment, he might get a text and have to end the session. Once, he did take a call from a client, thinking it was an emergency (he stepped out of the room), then came back a minute later saying it was not an emergency.
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Old Jun 27, 2024, 09:35 PM
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I know it’s all my own stuff about boundaries, but It just seems disrespectful to interrupt your process even if he did give you extra time at the end. A one off could be excusable, but twice in the same session?

It’s his responsibility to manage his business, without it impacting on you.

Yeah, it was difficult, especially with him turning off both video and audio, so I was just there, having no idea what was going on or how long he'd be. It might have felt a bit different had it been in person and he'd stepped into the hall or something. The one time, he put audio on for a second and said, "Sorry, LT, I just need one more minute." Which, it's good he updated me. And I understand it was probably something urgent. But I wish it could have waited.
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Old Jun 27, 2024, 09:38 PM
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I should say so, considering you're paying for his time!

Yeah...he did make it up, but it made the session feel disjointed. We had to figure out what we were talking about and do our best to resume. It wasn't anything particularly intense, thankfully.

Unlike that session where we were trying to work through a rupture when his wife called in the middle to alert him to a tornado warning and try to convince him to step out of his office until it was over. That call he took right in front of me, which was a different level of awkward!
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Old Jun 28, 2024, 04:11 AM
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Day one of living carefully is taking its toll.

Every action has to be considered in a way that I haven't needed to for a while.

I'm not good at asking for help, and yet I need to.
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Old Jun 28, 2024, 05:51 AM
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Day one of living carefully is taking its toll.

Every action has to be considered in a way that I haven't needed to for a while.

I'm not good at asking for help, and yet I need to.

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Old Jun 28, 2024, 09:40 AM
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Day one of living carefully is taking its toll.

Every action has to be considered in a way that I haven't needed to for a while.

I'm not good at asking for help, and yet I need to.
Asking for help can be hard.

And for me, even if I get myself to ask for help, I seem to mess it up by not being clear somehow. Sometimes it's more of a cry for help than directly asking for what I need.
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Old Jun 28, 2024, 09:45 AM
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L tries really hard to not allow any disturbances in session. She tries to remember to shut off her phone. If it does go off, it's usually a reminder alarm. I think one time she left it on for an emergency. I remember one time someone came and knocked at the office. I think it was a colleague. It was the first time I have ever seen her mad. We were sitting in the lobby once at night and someone came in. She got really mad at that too.
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Old Jun 28, 2024, 10:21 AM
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It's great when they protect the space.

I've always been grateful for the way two members of staff at my local cathedral got up when somebody came into the room where we were meeting to talk about my experience of grieving Steve.

It turned out that the person who came in was the interim Dean, and we all had a wonderful conversation.

How I wish I hadn't fallen flat on my face at that service, and then hugged the person who was so supportive to me a few months later.

The spiritual aspect of my grief for Steve is something that I feel I'm only just beginning to unpack with R.
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So I've been having problems with my sister ever since my dad moved out. We've been to court for a restraining order against her, there have been a slew of false accusations. Called the police on me for a false wellness check. She's contacted L. And she's contacted H's boss. I guess they have been continually talking... Well, today I guess my sister asked H's boss for a job. Like wtf?!?! And his boss is considering it! And H suggested that his boss give me a job instead? I have no skills for this job. H says he can teach me, but I worry I've wasted my brain so much that it won't be able to learn.

I can believe my sister would stoop so low and harass us that much. But I can't believe H's boss is that dumb. He even told H that we need to forgive my sister. I told H he HAS to find a new job if my sister gets hired.
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Old Jun 28, 2024, 12:48 PM
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I'm so sorry to hear that Scarlet - what a mess.
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Old Jun 28, 2024, 12:52 PM
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Also sorry to hear that, Scarlet. I really hope your husband's employer doesn't hire her...
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Old Jun 28, 2024, 03:11 PM
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Goodness you wouldn't like my T then.... Couch 248: Curiouser and Curiouser

I often have interrupted sessions; the most I ever had in one session was five, and they were all different things (she did apologise and make up the time at the end).

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You’re correct. I would draw the line there with a T today who did that repeatedly , because I thought I deserved to be treated better. The 2016 version of me would have said nothing though. I used to be someone who accepted the bare minimum from people.
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Interruptions did not bother me. The first woman had it happen a few times. The second one had it happen because of their entry system so almost every appointment had an interruption when her next appt buzzed to be let in the building and sometimes they came quite early to sit in an uncomfortable chair in a building that was really an older house they just blocked off rooms to turn into offices. I refused to go if the first one's dog was there but general interruptions were not a big deal. Different lines for different people. I think I might have liked it better if therapy had been over zoom for me. I hated their offices.
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It's storming tonight here, monsoon has apparently arrived. I usually love thunderstorms but tonight it is just making me all melancholy.

Oh yeah we went to a great concert the other night - Robert Cray Band / Doobie Brothers. I'd never heard Robert Cray before, but I totally loved their music!! It was better than the Doobies and I've always liked them. I would have been happy with just the Robert Cray part, they were that good.
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I'm deep in thought this morning about the concept of a "good goodbye" in therapy. As in, is there even such a thing and if there is, how necessary is it? I wonder if because I canceled my last session and told her on the phone I'm not coming back - did I cheat myself out of something I actually need? And that's why I keep getting these every-now-and-then moments of missing L? Or would I be having them anyway, even if I had gone in and talked about how messed up our relationship got, and allowed myself the chance to say goodbye in person? I'm working hard to accept that it's a moot point by now, 4.5 months later, but I can't seem to stop thinking about it. All opinions/viewpoints welcome.
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The new (or interim?) thread is here: Couch 248a: Still Curiouser. Would anyone like to start the real Couch 249?

Oops, the real Couch 249 did get started: Couch 249: The Self Care Couch
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