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Old Jun 28, 2008, 10:16 PM
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Thinking on this tonight ..So what are we as such flawed humans (in which we all are to some degree) heading for? Healing? what does that mean really ? How do you know you are healed when you get there? and why does healing have such a great price that not everyone can get it? .. And why .. are the Healed ppl .. not helping the not healed ppl .. without great cost? Who are the Healed? so many questions bombarding my mind tonight .. i just dont Get It - it blows my mind...so much on my mind.
Our ultimate goal is healing right? ... does it ever really happen or is this some kind of bunny trail we are walking down?

what are we heading for?and what is true healing?
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Old Jun 28, 2008, 10:22 PM
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Free1,

Funny you should ask these questions today because yesterday I decided that healing was crap; an illusion designed to keep us from freaking out any further than we already have.

Today I have come back a little closer to center, just a little. Personally, I don't think healing ever stops. It is a trail, maybe not a bunny trail, but a path or a journey? I think that those who help us (our therapists) (at great cost, as you said) are also healing. They have to charge because it is their profession, and how they support themselves and their families.

I don't think healing ever stops. And so, it is not like there is a "place" where we can breathe a sigh of relief and say thank heavens we are finally there. However, it is my hope that there will come a time when it feels okay to be on this journey, but I am so not there right now.

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Old Jun 28, 2008, 10:44 PM
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Maybe you are healed when you get to a point where you feel like you don't need to be fixed. When you can just breath and BE without feeling like you're messing up something and not breathing correctly.
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Old Jun 28, 2008, 10:50 PM
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I remember a teacher in college said that medicine's goal could be to convince folks that there is always going to be something wrong with their bodies. Maybe that's a bit narcissistic, but it's food for thought.
Actually, my Higher Power and my reasoning skills help me to realize that a comfortable internal medium should be reached where I feel okay today and find peace in what my Higher Power gives me.
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Old Jun 28, 2008, 11:05 PM
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"Healing" seems to imply an end somewhere. I think of therapy as being about growth that will make my life, my inner life more comfortable. Growth is experienced all through life. Therapy is a way and a place to focus safely and solely on ourselves, with someone present who understands how it all works. A great expense, like medical help is a great expense. I don't resent the great expense, I am in awe of all T's have to do to get to where they want to be--in a position to help us grow.
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Old Jun 29, 2008, 12:10 AM
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just wondering whose philosophy is genuine ~ i just think that the word "healing" should be replaced with another word. .because i think it gives ppl the wrong impression so to speak .. yea it sounds good to believe we will all be healed .. but it just is not tangible ..
and it is pretty sad that we have to pay outrageous prices to help ones in need .. its all about the dollar it seems. Reminds me of being at the Fair years ago .. you would put money in and she would talk to you ..until the money ran out.
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Old Jun 29, 2008, 01:56 AM
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My therapist told me at the beginning that only I knew what I needed to heal. So I have looked inside to discover that and have taken many steps along the path. I think of healing as coming back to some sort of ground zero, but it is not an endpoint, just getting back to where I would have been if I wasn't wounded. At the same time, I move forward on the other tracks of my life and grow. The wounds heal along their own path, which criss crosses the trails heading into the future. The more I heal, the more I grow and the richer my life.
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Old Jun 29, 2008, 02:22 AM
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my ground zero - was the day i was born.
my wounds just kept splitting and growing scar tissue till i could not feel them anymore .. and as i grew older .. one by one they would break open ... there really wasnt a healing .. an understanding .. but no real healing process took place. when i am triggered another breaks open .. there are so many i cant keep up with them ... and the cost of trying to talk about it with someone is too much for us. .. feels very hopelesss but their is peace and rest at times ...few and far between but it is there. . isolation for me works most the time to think things out before another trigger takes place.. 50 minutes a week for how long? before these wounds close.... i spose i am counting the cost .. there is just not enough even with insurance to do therapy anymore. .its just the way it is for me . i guess if i was loaded with money ...then i could afford the type of help i need? somethings wrong with that picture ..what are we heading for?and what is true healing?
i am glad you have found your place of peace and you are moving forward. i hope you continue to grow and find rest.
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Old Jun 29, 2008, 07:48 AM
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what are we heading for?and what is true healing?

I feel I have to say at the moment I do not know where it ends either. Too much fear this morning and feeling too much isolation (Where are the real helpers?) to believe in any permanent healing. Who was it who said "In the end we are all dead"? I suppose what counts is what happens in the meantime, but right now for me it does not look that good.

All about me, I suppose... what are we heading for?and what is true healing?
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Old Jun 29, 2008, 10:07 AM
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(((((pachyderm)))) i pray you are feeling less anxious and isolated and that your day is blanketed with comfort .. nature works for me ... just going outside and taking a deep breath - watching the free stress reducing nature all around ...helps. The sun is so warming and beautiful .. just seems to make everything feel as if their is energy to make it through each day moment by moment.
It is what i do when i feel so vunerable. Cuz in the end - nothing else matters ... a song written by someone who was feeling the same way as we do would be my guess. because we are all more alike than we humans think and yet so very individual concerning our needs and what happiness means to us. Lennon had it on target when he sang All we need is Love .. Love is all we need." just to know someone out there loves us and to think of that possibility to me makes us stronger and can take on the day .. heck even if it is a litte flower that needs water .. or a pet that needs us .. the energy it brings is amazing. So i hope your days are good and that you have all you need.
It is all about you ... and all the yous in the world ..and me's ... so you can share your experience with another so tey can glean from you and take what they need to help themselves.
i refuse to believe that true help only can come from very expensive therapy ... hell we cant even pay for our gas now days or food or houses.. so i think the relief for us will come through listening very hard a considerering what ppl are saying.. to feel another in a way we can help.
i do believe doctors deserve their pay and therapists .. theyy deserve that from all the money they put into their studies and practices .. but to offer healing is misleading .....teaching maybe how to help your self yes. but healing does come within and no doc ot t can touch that place. . only we can as Sunrise said.
Sorry this is so long - just have so much to say .. i love ppl and i hate to see ppl suffer so much ...it hurts me because i relate so much.
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Old Jul 08, 2008, 08:02 PM
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Sometimes I think none of the words that relate to these kinds of things are really accurate: healing? growth? *mental illness*?

So I don't know the answer to your question. Maybe it's something you can only understand once you've experienced it.
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