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Old Aug 02, 2013, 01:26 PM
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I think getting help with the bipolar first may be of help - you say you don't want to get into trouble and you admit to being impulsive and manic at times. Perhaps with correct therapy, perhaps even meds to get you on a more even keel may help with that and also getting into trouble. I think it's worth going to see your family doctor and just see if they have any advice for you?

Even if you parents were totally frustrated with your behaviour and just reached the end of their tether, then they still should not have hit you. You're not a small child where you can smack on the bum for being naughty, you're nearly an adult and to be hit with such force that it breaks ribs.. well.. let me ask you, what did that teach you? What did it achieve? Did you feel loved? Did it make you feel better about yourself? Did it help with your bipolar? I can't see any positive result from this abuse.
Im was on meds for it. Dont want to take them for other reasons. It sure as hell taught me to clean the sink right and to shut up when they were talking. Theres not supposed to be many things positive about a punishment, if i understand right.
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You are an addict, with violent tendencies, but say "...I can handle adult stuff.." but are fine with having a guardian who can force decisions on you, you are all over the place and clearly beating you has made you a nice scapegoat but has done nothing to improve your situation/self worth/behavior, in other words, it doesn't work. Please do be sure your sexual partners know all about your behaviors and do them and yourself the favor of getting tested regularly for blood borne diseases, and STDs---use protection. As you know yourself, violence is a very temporary deterrent.
I wonder what you wanted to be when you were a little child...
How old are the other two and what are they doing with their lives?
Where did this come from?
I dont know about that. People usually stay out of your way for much longer if you beat them up than if you tell them to 'go away'.
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23, 21 and 21. Younger two are in college, other one is doing something with photography and hes moving out of state soon.I dont really pay much attention to them haha.

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Old Aug 02, 2013, 02:03 PM
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I dont think the point of the extended guardianship thing is to keep me as her personal punching bag, its because im suicidal and self harm a lot. Its kind of a bummer but im not going to try to cancel it, she could go to jail and i dont have enough energy.
My girlfriend is mad about it. My therapist thinks its a good idea. Im not going to bother telling him about getting beat, thered be to much drama, and again she could be arrested. I think it was my moms therapist that suggested it to her.
Extended guardianship, is also about bringing some sort of income into your parents home. However, what happens, if something happens to your mom? Where will that leave you, who would take care of you then?

Of course, your therapist thinks it's a good idea. Your therapist, perhaps, until this point--with your broken rib, was unaware that there was this level of beatings in your home?

Your mom's therapist, suggested that she take over an extended guardianship, of you? I am unclear, what that sentence means.

Is your father currently, incarcerated, or is there a restraining order in place, until trial? What's going to happen, when he returns home?
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Old Aug 02, 2013, 02:58 PM
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Income?? What do you mean. Like I have to work? I thought that the entire thing was because I was incapable of caring for myself. Wouldn't working defeat the purpose?

Yeah, my moms therapist was the first one to suggest filing for it.
I don't know what my therapist thinks now. Shes been trying to pressure me into telling her that my parents beat me.

He has a restraining order, but were halfway through trial already, and it looks like he's going to jail.
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Old Aug 02, 2013, 03:14 PM
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Wouldn't this make you disabled? And instead of, upon turning 18, you get your disability, your mom gets it? That's the impression that I am left with. Your mom, will receive money to care for you, since you are incapable, right?

How long, will his jail sentence be, if convicted?

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Income?? What do you mean. Like I have to work? I thought that the entire thing was because I was incapable of caring for myself. Wouldn't working defeat the purpose?

Yeah, my moms therapist was the first one to suggest filing for it.
I don't know what my therapist thinks now. Shes been trying to pressure me into telling her that my parents beat me.

He has a restraining order, but were halfway through trial already, and it looks like he's going to jail.
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Old Aug 02, 2013, 03:47 PM
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I have no idea, now I'm confused about the entire thing. I think he can be sentenced to 10-20 years.
Why would she receive money? Isnt she just applying to continue brewing my guardian?
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Old Aug 02, 2013, 04:04 PM
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I know you love your parents. You don't say how old you are, but I assume you are pretty young. Your friend did the right thing. I'm sorry if you don't like that but there is no reason for an adult to beat a child. Your father did a bad thing and you will suffer from that abuse for years to come, you just don't see it yet. I'm really sorry your family is being torn apart but don't blame your friend. She was just trying to protect you. I'm also sorry your mom beats on you. That is not right either, even if you can't follow the rules beating is not the way to cope with the issue. I feel really bad for you. Hope you stay safe.
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I could not agree more... especially as a child, you should only receive love and gentle reprimand for when you do wrong. May a swat on the bee-hind from a small switch or something. NOT broken ribs.

My prayers are with you, may you blessed with loving kindness by those that love you.
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Old Aug 02, 2013, 04:41 PM
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Hey,

When I was a kid my dad routinely beat the crap out of mom and there were a couple times us kids got it too. I remember one time my sister had a friend over and called the cops and they hauled dad away. I was so angry with her. I thought she was an idiot as that is not how we handled the situation. Abuse laws were pretty lax back them, so dad was back the next morning, but I was still angry. (He actually was hauled off several times, but that was the one time I knew who called).

Now as an adult looking back, I realized she did the right thing. Mom never got beaten because of what she did. Dad made it sound as if she did. Abusers are fantastic manipulators. They can twist things around and make you believe things that are untrue. It gives them a false power and shields their pain. Abusers abuse because of who they are, not who the abused are.

What they do is not acceptable, nor is your abuse to them, unless what you speak of is self-defense. Yes, your dad is going to be held accountable for the crime he committed, and some day so will you if you don't stop.

What do you hope to get out of life? Where do you see yourself when you're 20. 25, 30? Living at home, getting your ***** kicked by your mom? Or do you hope to live your life? What will you do when she's gone?

Right now your situation sucks and there's not much you can do to make today better, but you can work on your tomorrow. I get why you don't want your mom in jail. You love her as I love my father. Also, being a ward of the state isn't fun, but neither is living the rest of your life this way.

Are you happy currently? Then I'd say don't do anything. Continue to physically act out with your rage, don't go back to school, allow your mother to tighten her grip for the rest of her life. Or do something about it.

Don't believe people who tell you that you are incapable of taking care of yourself as you move into legal adulthood. Show them your wrong. I was told my teachers and school counselors that I wouldn't never make anything of myself. I was told that college for me was an unrealistic goal. That I would become an abusive alcoholic like my father or would be doomed to end up in a relationship with one. I proved them wrong on every count. Even graduated college with honors.

Right now you're in a hard spot in life. You are dependent on your parents. Most people your age are itching for independence, it sounds as if this has been squelched within you. What you do have going for you as you have plenty of time to pull your life together. Overcome your abusers, don't become one of them. Or do, if you should choose. Continue this path, act out your rage, get your ***** locked up like your dad, but do know if this is what you do, the life you live is of your own doing.
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Old Aug 02, 2013, 07:32 PM
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Hey,

When I was a kid my dad routinely beat the crap out of mom and there were a couple times us kids got it too. I remember one time my sister had a friend over and called the cops and they hauled dad away. I was so angry with her. I thought she was an idiot as that is not how we handled the situation. Abuse laws were pretty lax back them, so dad was back the next morning, but I was still angry. (He actually was hauled off several times, but that was the one time I knew who called).

Now as an adult looking back, I realized she did the right thing. Mom never got beaten because of what she did. Dad made it sound as if she did. Abusers are fantastic manipulators. They can twist things around and make you believe things that are untrue. It gives them a false power and shields their pain. Abusers abuse because of who they are, not who the abused are.

What they do is not acceptable, nor is your abuse to them, unless what you speak of is self-defense. Yes, your dad is going to be held accountable for the crime he committed, and some day so will you if you don't stop.

What do you hope to get out of life? Where do you see yourself when you're 20. 25, 30? Living at home, getting your ***** kicked by your mom? Or do you hope to live your life? What will you do when she's gone?

Right now your situation sucks and there's not much you can do to make today better, but you can work on your tomorrow. I get why you don't want your mom in jail. You love her as I love my father. Also, being a ward of the state isn't fun, but neither is living the rest of your life this way.

Are you happy currently? Then I'd say don't do anything. Continue to physically act out with your rage, don't go back to school, allow your mother to tighten her grip for the rest of her life. Or do something about it.

Don't believe people who tell you that you are incapable of taking care of yourself as you move into legal adulthood. Show them your wrong. I was told my teachers and school counselors that I wouldn't never make anything of myself. I was told that college for me was an unrealistic goal. That I would become an abusive alcoholic like my father or would be doomed to end up in a relationship with one. I proved them wrong on every count. Even graduated college with honors.

Right now you're in a hard spot in life. You are dependent on your parents. Most people your age are itching for independence, it sounds as if this has been squelched within you. What you do have going for you as you have plenty of time to pull your life together. Overcome your abusers, don't become one of them. Or do, if you should choose. Continue this path, act out your rage, get your ***** locked up like your dad, but do know if this is what you do, the life you live is of your own doing.
Im not really sure what to say to this. I dont really see it as abuse still. Its punishment, or at the very least a reaction. I cant really see my parents manipulating me or lying to me.
Since you think it is abuse, then why didnt they ever beat my three other brothers? They only beat me, and only since i was about 11. If it was them, wouldnt they have messed up my brothers to? My parents are productive people and are successful, and have raised three people to be like that to. Its me. And honestly, if im incapable enough to have them file for a extended guardianship, i think ill trust their judgement over mine.
No, im not happy right now, but i dont think its because of the actual beatings. If im not in jail or living with my mom, ill be dead.
I dont care about independence because i already got a taste of it. My parents kicked me out a few years ago and i had to live on and off with friends I made and on the street. Id rather have my mom control me for the rest of my life than have that again. There was a lot of bad **** going on.
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Can I ask why it has to be just those two options - living on the street, or living with your mum? What if you could get help, one day perhaps be able to get a job, and live your life the way you want to. That's true independence.

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Can I ask why it has to be just those two options - living on the street, or living with your mum? What if you could get help, one day perhaps be able to get a job, and live your life the way you want to. That's true independence.

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Because i hate working...and i cant pass any classes in school. And i dont care enough to try haha.
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I just hope one of them doesn't take it too far (not like they haven't already) and do something that can't be undone. Like give you a brain injury, put you in a coma, or end your life. This stuff actually happens, to real people.
Everyone hates working. This world sucks. Money sucks. It sucks that the world revolves around money. I suspect, though, that it's not that you don't care enough to try. That's what you're hiding behind and I challenge it. Anyone who has the energy to keep posting on this thread the responses to all the people that you do clearly has tons of energy to expend. It's up to you which direction you want to take it.
You're 16. 16 year olds are smart. I remember the **** I was doing when I was 16. Living on the street sucks. So does addiction, abuse, mental illness, etc etc. I hope you get through it. I hope you are able to survive your abusers and get the hell out of there and live your life doing things that you love and enjoy.
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I just hope one of them doesn't take it too far (not like they haven't already) and do something that can't be undone. Like give you a brain injury, put you in a coma, or end your life. This stuff actually happens, to real people.
Everyone hates working. This world sucks. Money sucks. It sucks that the world revolves around money. I suspect, though, that it's not that you don't care enough to try. That's what you're hiding behind and I challenge it. Anyone who has the energy to keep posting on this thread the responses to all the people that you do clearly has tons of energy to expend. It's up to you which direction you want to take it.
You're 16. 16 year olds are smart. I remember the **** I was doing when I was 16. Living on the street sucks. So does addiction, abuse, mental illness, etc etc. I hope you get through it. I hope you are able to survive your abusers and get the hell out of there and live your life doing things that you love and enjoy.
Im not hiding anything. Theres nothing energy consuming about typing when im on the computer all day anyways.
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Because i hate working...and i cant pass any classes in school. And i dont care enough to try haha.
Ok, you've got a lot going on at the mo, and you're 16 - I can understand you not wanting to put effort in. But am going to sound so mumsy here, but it would be the smart choice if you want to turn your life around. It's ok, just because you've failed classes at school doesn't mean you can't do night school or anything to get the grades so please don't give up completely. I did badly at school too, but after a few years of getting nowhere, I did night classes. If thicko me can do it, you can walk it!

You say you're unhappy with your life, and I know it doesn't feel like it, but it is possible to start slowly building a better future. You should try and think what's ahead too. I remember when I was 16 and the future seemed so far away and no real issue, so I understand!

But anything could happen in the future - you could have a child (who you would have to support), fall hopelessly in love and want to be a better person for them, want to travel the world (it's an amazing world), and one day you'll sadly have to realise that your parents and their home will not last forever as they will die of old age, and you'll have to stand on your own two feet - feed, clothe yourself and pay for a roof over your head. To do that the best way is to get grades. You're not stupid, I can tell by your writing, but I think you have so much going on right now that you're ignoring the very real chance that you can make a better life for yourself. One step at a time.

And yeah, nobody likes to work, and esp when you're young as the young start at the bottom of the ladder and get all the rubbish jobs. But this is the norm, the way of the world and with effort it doesn't last forever. If you find a career in something you like doing, for example, I am not so smart but I loved photography and managed to make a living out of it for many years - a decent living. Basically I got paid to do something I liked to do - there must be something that you like to do? That's the way to go about it...
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Ok, you've got a lot going on at the mo, and you're 16 - I can understand you not wanting to put effort in. But am going to sound so mumsy here, but it would be the smart choice if you want to turn your life around. It's ok, just because you've failed classes at school doesn't mean you can't do night school or anything to get the grades so please don't give up completely. I did badly at school too, but after a few years of getting nowhere, I did night classes. If thicko me can do it, you can walk it!

You say you're unhappy with your life, and I know it doesn't feel like it, but it is possible to start slowly building a better future. You should try and think what's ahead too. I remember when I was 16 and the future seemed so far away and no real issue, so I understand!

But anything could happen in the future - you could have a child (who you would have to support), fall hopelessly in love and want to be a better person for them, want to travel the world (it's an amazing world), and one day you'll sadly have to realise that your parents and their home will not last forever as they will die of old age, and you'll have to stand on your own two feet - feed, clothe yourself and pay for a roof over your head. To do that the best way is to get grades. You're not stupid, I can tell by your writing, but I think you have so much going on right now that you're ignoring the very real chance that you can make a better life for yourself. One step at a time.

And yeah, nobody likes to work, and esp when you're young as the young start at the bottom of the ladder and get all the rubbish jobs. But this is the norm, the way of the world and with effort it doesn't last forever. If you find a career in something you like doing, for example, I am not so smart but I loved photography and managed to make a living out of it for many years - a decent living. Basically I got paid to do something I liked to do - there must be something that you like to do? That's the way to go about it...
My parents are making me do this home course crap, probably so they dont get arrested for 'failing to meet the needs of a child'. I hate it, im like three years behind and dont plan on catching up. If i ever get a job its going to be something anyone can do. I really would rather not look into the future. It stresses me out.
I cant have children, im sterile. Thats probably a good thing. I wont outlast my parents.
I can get money from selling street drugs, since i always seem to have them, but i guess thats not considered a 'real' job.
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