[ladiesman11]

I dont know how even to start this thread but i will give a try since im completely hopeless having tried different things before.. Im facing the biggest problem that i have faced before despite looking silly as many people can think and i understand that.. what happens is : im the worst kisser on the planet despite being a well looking guy with a good self steem.. everything started when i was 17 having my first kiss.. at that time i thought that kissing on the lips had a different motion than kissing on the cheek .. i remember the girl that i was kissing saying `` kiss in a normal way``.. since then i had more opportunities being lost because of that.. i reached a stage where i lost my confidence in such a way that when i start kissing a girl i rush myself in a inconscious way and i end up messing up again and again .. i lost the count how many times i have been in a nightclub , meeting some pretty girls and seeing them giving me an excuse afterwards and leaving me alone cause my kissing style.. i cant understand this pain anymore.. i cant live this life anymore being so pretty and well looking and losing all opportunities i lost in the past.. i cant live this life anymore having so much potential and living in this ****** scenario that im lviing for so long.. iim feeling trapped , broken and without any way out.. it seems like im in a nightmare that i will never wake up.. and even that i still can bang some chickes sometimes being the worst kisser on planet.. i know that people can say that everybody kisses in a different way but im so bad that makes girls leave me in this way.. any suggestion? i want ``solve `` this problem as soon as possible.. i cant stand the pain being so heartbroken for so long.. i just want make clear this has become a serious problem for me since i cant mantain a relationship with any girl...
thanks very much

[Trippin2.0]

Don't you have any girl friends?

Ask one of them to teach you....

[divine1966]

I am puzzled. I never knew that kissing certain way or even kissing at all is even that important. Unless you viciously bite while kissing what's the deal here?

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[ladiesman11]

Originally Posted by divine1966

I am puzzled. I never knew that kissing certain way or even kissing at all is even that important. Unless you viciously bite while kissing what's the deal here?

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I think that i became so paranoid that even if a girl is having a pleasure its hard for me to believe that she is not lying.. i reached a stage that nowadays if i go out and start kissing a girl and eventually bring her home i think its because im so well looking rather than because of the way i kiss.. let me ask you something just to make sure.. when im kissing a girl on the lips.. is the same motion of kissing on the cheek? obviously that i know that is so much more softly and gently but is it a ``kiss`` as well? im asking this cause i think that maybe im doing something wrong when kissing on the lips.. i started thinking that when kissing on the lips i had to suck or grab her lips rather than kissing.. am i wrong? thanks

[Angelique67]

No, you wouldn't suck or grab at her lips. You press your lips gently on her lips. French kissing is a little more intimate but it doesn't involve sucking or grabbing at the other person's lips. Good luck!

[ladiesman11]

Originally Posted by Angelique67

No, you wouldn't suck or grab at her lips. You press your lips gently on her lips. French kissing is a little more intimate but it doesn't involve sucking or grabbing at the other person's lips. Good luck!

so basically despite being more slowly and soft is the same motion of kissing on the cheek.. am i right? i mean.. the motion itself is the same.. am i right?

[~Christina]

Originally Posted by ladiesman11

I dont know how even to start this thread but i will give a try since im completely hopeless having tried different things before.. Im facing the biggest problem that i have faced before despite looking silly as many people can think and i understand that.. what happens is : im the worst kisser on the planet despite being a well looking guy with a good self steem.. everything started when i was 17 having my first kiss.. at that time i thought that kissing on the lips had a different motion than kissing on the cheek .. i remember the girl that i was kissing saying `` kiss in a normal way``.. since then i had more opportunities being lost because of that.. i reached a stage where i lost my confidence in such a way that when i start kissing a girl i rush myself in a inconscious way and i end up messing up again and again .. i lost the count how many times i have been in a nightclub , meeting some pretty girls and seeing them giving me an excuse afterwards and leaving me alone cause my kissing style.. i cant understand this pain anymore.. i cant live this life anymore being so pretty and well looking and losing all opportunities i lost in the past.. i cant live this life anymore having so much potential and living in this ****** scenario that im lviing for so long.. iim feeling trapped , broken and without any way out.. it seems like im in a nightmare that i will never wake up.. and even that i still can bang some chickes sometimes being the worst kisser on planet.. i know that people can say that everybody kisses in a different way but im so bad that makes girls leave me in this way.. any suggestion? i want ``solve `` this problem as soon as possible.. i cant stand the pain being so heartbroken for so long.. i just want make clear this has become a serious problem for me since i cant mantain a relationship with any girl...
thanks very much

Ok.. where to start... Okay first off a few remarks are just really terrible.... "bang some chicks?" ugh , really?

I mean ....I'm glad your so pretty.. But looks are not everything.

Have you ever just gotten to know someone before kissing them? You mentioned kissing in nightclubs..... Maybe get to know someone first. then they would more likely be interested in help you do better.

If you cant find someone to help you learn a better way you can look into hiring someone to help you.

Good luck and Welcome to PC

[divine1966]

Originally Posted by ~Christina

Ok.. where to start... Okay first off a few remarks are just really terrible.... "bang some chicks?" ugh , really?

I mean ....I'm glad your so pretty.. But looks are not everything.

Have you ever just gotten to know someone before kissing them? You mentioned kissing in nightclubs..... Maybe get to know someone first. then they would more likely be interested in help you do better.

If you cant find someone to help you learn a better way you can look into hiring someone to help you.

Good luck and Welcome to PC

Good point. Maybe this kissing is so unsatisfactory because there isn't anything between the two of you

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[DueReflection]

You are in luck. My nickname used to be 'the Miami Makeout King.'
In all seriousness, when you first begin kissing, don't go for tongue right away; conversely, don't leave your lips/mouth clamped closed either (i am guessing that is what is taking place here, maybe you are kissing too politely and if your lips are closed too tightly then you might be befuddling your partner.)

I have been on the other end of this situation. Woman I met years ago was and I imagine still is the 40(+)-yr old Virgin. First time we kissed I could tell she A) was really nervous and B) had never done it before. She is Vietnamese and just grew up really sheltered and prudish and never kissed any boys... she eventually improved in the kissing dept (never quite relaxed her jaw/mouth though but I won't split hairs as she was sweet n gorgeous.)

If I were in your position I would just be flat out honest and when the moment is about to unfold, tell the next woman, 'look i never learned to kiss properly, will you show me?' then, if she's a good sport and you can relax enough, *she* will do the kissing, you know, that 'chick' that you may/may not be 'banging'? = )

Anyway, if that fails -- and I am not saying this being a smartass but -- go to YouTube and watch a video of two women kissing (I am guessing there are many.)

[healingme4me]

Originally Posted by ladiesman11

so basically despite being more slowly and soft is the same motion of kissing on the cheek.. am i right? i mean.. the motion itself is the same.. am i right?

No, it's not the same as on the cheek.

I'm in agreement with whomever mentioned that perhaps where there's no emotional involvement involved it's feeling rather fake[not their final description, word from your expressing that you feel like they are lying ]

Must be more to it, than kissing itself?

[ladiesman11]

Originally Posted by healingme4me

No, it's not the same as on the cheek.

I'm in agreement with whomever mentioned that perhaps where there's no emotional involvement involved it's feeling rather fake[not their final description, word from your expressing that you feel like they are lying ]

Must be more to it, than kissing itself?

Thats the only question that remains for me.. some people say that is the same motion others says that is different.. im so confused thinking about something that should be so simple..

[Angelique67]

Originally Posted by ladiesman11

Thats the only question that remains for me.. some people say that is the same motion others says that is different.. im so confused thinking about something that should be so simple..

For a casual kiss, a non intimate kiss, kissing like on a cheek is OK. For a more intimate kiss it's different.

[Rose76]

Lots of men aren't great kissers . . . the majority IMO. A lot could be learned from the movies. Watch films made by stars who are popular with women.

Originally Posted by ladiesman11

I dont know how even to start this thread but i will give a try since im completely hopeless having tried different things before.. Im facing the biggest problem that i have faced before despite looking silly as many people can think and i understand that.. what happens is : im the worst kisser on the planet despite being a well looking guy with a good self steem.. everything started when i was 17 having my first kiss.. at that time i thought that kissing on the lips had a different motion than kissing on the cheek .. i remember the girl that i was kissing saying `` kiss in a normal way``.. since then i had more opportunities being lost because of that.. i reached a stage where i lost my confidence in such a way that when i start kissing a girl i rush myself in a inconscious way and i end up messing up again and again .. i lost the count how many times i have been in a nightclub , meeting some pretty girls and seeing them giving me an excuse afterwards and leaving me alone cause my kissing style.. i cant understand this pain anymore.. i cant live this life anymore being so pretty and well looking and losing all opportunities i lost in the past.. i cant live this life anymore having so much potential and living in this ****** scenario that im lviing for so long.. iim feeling trapped , broken and without any way out.. it seems like im in a nightmare that i will never wake up.. and even that i still can bang some chickes sometimes being the worst kisser on planet.. i know that people can say that everybody kisses in a different way but im so bad that makes girls leave me in this way.. any suggestion? i want ``solve `` this problem as soon as possible.. i cant stand the pain being so heartbroken for so long.. i just want make clear this has become a serious problem for me since i cant mantain a relationship with any girl...
thanks very much

Wow. Now I remember why I have this forum blocked. I don't know if you are still here but... IMO your problem is only indirectly related to kissing. As someone said, unless your kisses draw blood you're probably not doing it that badly. And yes, be careful with the tongue. I was in a club one night and a stranger walked up and kissed me. She put her tongue so far in my mouth I felt like I was being attacked by the creature in Alien Kissing should never feel like an assault. An infiltration maybe but not like unleashing a full frontal attack. Go slow. Let it happen. Explore. Don't forget your hands. Touch her face... her neck... slide your fingers through her hair. Be careful with your teeth... she isn't a hamburger. And relax

Personally I like to be kissed behind the ear, nibbled slowly with the lips.

I would simply allow the woman to take the lead and respond back the way she performs her own kisses too. Never ever be forceful!

Don't laugh people but I suggest practising on the back of your hand.

[ChipperMonkey]

Originally Posted by Rose76

Lots of men aren't great kissers . . . the majority IMO. A lot could be learned from the movies. Watch films made by stars who are popular with women.

Good to know. I just thought I was a magnet for bad kissers, lol. Frustrating because I've had quite a few people tell me I'm a really good kisser!

[Rose76]

Kissing is an art form, not an instinctive human behavior. Nature makes pretty automatic those actions that are necessary for the continuation of the species. Kissing is optional. It is learned behavior. You kind if have to make a study of it . . . like anything you want to get good at.

Originally Posted by George H.

Wow. Now I remember why I have this forum blocked. I don't know if you are still here but... IMO your problem is only indirectly related to kissing. As someone said, unless your kisses draw blood you're probably not doing it that badly. And yes, be careful with the tongue. I was in a club one night and a stranger walked up and kissed me. She put her tongue so far in my mouth I felt like I was being attacked by the creature in Alien Kissing should never feel like an assault. An infiltration maybe but not like unleashing a full frontal attack. Go slow. Let it happen. Explore. Don't forget your hands. Touch her face... her neck... slide your fingers through her hair. Be careful with your teeth... she isn't a hamburger. And relax

thanks, my first real good laugh out loud today
and then....... well you can guess what i felt next

[Alone & confused]

Originally Posted by ladiesman11

I think that i became so paranoid that even if a girl is having a pleasure its hard for me to believe that she is not lying.. i reached a stage that nowadays if i go out and start kissing a girl and eventually bring her home i think its because im so well looking rather than because of the way i kiss.. let me ask you something just to make sure.. when im kissing a girl on the lips.. is the same motion of kissing on the cheek? obviously that i know that is so much more softly and gently but is it a ``kiss`` as well? im asking this cause i think that maybe im doing something wrong when kissing on the lips.. i started thinking that when kissing on the lips i had to suck or grab her lips rather than kissing.. am i wrong? thanks

Ah, no darlin. You don't need to suck or grab anything. And.....are you French kissing? This isn't an easy thing to "teach" through texts on a screen.

Originally Posted by Rose76

Kissing is an art form, not an instinctive human behavior. Nature makes pretty automatic those actions that are necessary for the continuation of the species. Kissing is optional. It is learned behavior. You kind if have to make a study of it . . . like anything you want to get good at.

Originally Posted by ChipperMonkey

Good to know. I just thought I was a magnet for bad kissers, lol. Frustrating because I've had quite a few people tell me I'm a really good kisser!

Originally Posted by Alone & confused

Ah, no darlin. You don't need to suck or grab anything. And.....are you French kissing? This isn't an easy thing to "teach" through texts on a screen.

Hey come on So Rose... you gonna spill some secrets???

Originally Posted by disparaissant

thanks, my first real good laugh out loud today
and then....... well you can guess what i felt next

I was serious :P That woman must have had a Guinness record tongue. I may not have been so pretty and well looking guy as ladiesman11 but... some of the perqs of being a musician
In general females probably are better kissers. I had a gf in my teens who was an incredible kisser. First time we kissed I was like But she told me how she became good at it
And I hate to break it to you ladies but some of the nicest bits of her kisses def involved some subtle sucking. I'm not sure how she did it... extra set of lips and a very agile tongue? There was no grabbing tho. I'm not even sure what that means in regards to kissing
BTW sorry for dredging up a zombie thread. I wonder how it all turned out for him.

[Rose76]

Just to put kissing in perspective: The guy I've been with for ages wasn't the best kisser I'ld ever met . . . just sort of okay. Some guys who were far superior kissers were not so great in other ways. So women don't only go by kissing expertise. My guy was the best hugger I'ld ever met . . . also the best at conveying affection.

Women consider the whole repertoire of behaviors a man displays. The main question is often, "Does this guy genuinely like me?" and "Am I special to him?"

Originally Posted by divine1966

I am puzzled. I never knew that kissing certain way or even kissing at all is even that important. Unless you viciously bite while kissing what's the deal here?

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I dunno, I've dated some truly awful kissers.

Step one: Don't lick her face. (I wish I were kidding.)

Originally Posted by Rose76

My guy was the best hugger I'ld ever met . . . also the best at conveying affection.

Women consider the whole repertoire of behaviors a man displays. The main question is often, "Does this guy genuinely like me?" and "Am I special to him?"

I wholeheartedly agree with this. I mean, I still stand by my previous bad kisser comment, but I yes. I agree.

[divine1966]

I still think it's about connection. It is either there or it's not. When you really love someone and relationship is going great and you both treat each other well I bet you won't be analyzing particular kind of kissing. It would be part of the package. Seek true emotional connection and and rest will follow

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