[Katieissweet]

First I’m schizophrenic but I almost never see or hear bad things, witches gathering round my head,a boy busker singing eretheral music for hours,mermaids on the floor,sacred music coming out of cars,words appearing on the table that’s what I see.I dreamt several times that I was an amagqira (that’s a shaman in my tribe) I’m European and 1/4 African.But obviously Psychiatry holds an atheist worldview and rejects all spirituality, so I was diagnosed as schiz.

anyway back to the love story,I was taken to hospital years ago for the schiz and he was my nurse,he is a hippy guy with a man bun,musician etc full of vivacity and life,he works on the psyche ward in high dependancy.I truly faint everytime I see him I can’t really explain it.

Anyway I never had him as my nurse for years,then the last few years I’ve had to go there and he was my nurse a few times,we had long talks about everything ancestry,spirituality,goddesses everything and there was a definate electricity between us,he would talk to me for ages even when he wasn’t my nurse.now when I’m around him I feel this great creative energy like I become much more theatrical and creative.I am an artist and poet.We have some sort of ancient energy with each other.

sometimes I’ll be out of it there,reciting poems to him on my bed aloud,he’ll just sit there on the bed listening.Anyway he asked me to have lunch with him whilst on the ward and made a few other romantic comments to me,but as far as I understand nurses are in no way allowed to have relations with patients.But truly who could understand better what we go through,I don’t know what to do?

Maybe the guy should get a life?

OMEGALULZ

[MickeyCheeky]

I don't think it's a good idea to continue this, Katieissweet. Like you wrote, I believe it's unprofessional for nurses to have a relationship with their patients. I don't think he should do this and the fact that he seems to ignore this says a lot about him. I'd avoid any trouble by rejecting his offer. Can you ask to get another nurse? I think it would be best to stay away from him as much as you can. I'm so sorry, I know it hurts when this happens. Please don't give up. Stay safe and take care of yourself. Feel free to PM me anytime. Let me know if I can do something to help you. Wish you good luck! Let us know how it goes. Sending many hugs to you

[Open Eyes]

Katie, not sure what the laws are where you live, but here where I live it's not appropriate for a nurse/doctor to date a psych patient they are helping and providing therapy to.

He may have offered to have lunch with you just in a friendship way too. Instead of entertaining more than that, it's a good idea to ask him about his intentions so you don't create intentions that are not based in reality. Also, my concern is also that you may very well in your psychological challenge be taken advantage of too, and that's something you don't deserve to experience.

[divine1966]

Romantic encounters between nurses and patients are strictly prohibited. Did he ask to go have lunch with in a romantic setting? Or just suggested it’s time to eat lunch? What exactly did he say?

Not to rain on anything, but one thing I'm wondering is if he may have just wanted to eat lunch together, non-romantically, and maybe you misunderstood, since you have feelings for him.

However, if he did mean it romantically, that's highly unethical of him and unprofessional. It's not worth it in my opinion.

[Katieissweet]

Sorry I told you to get a life I don’t know what I was thinking in that moment I forgot you deal with so much but being so obsessed with video games is very unhealthy.

Originally Posted by DarknessIsMyFriend

Maybe the guy should get a life?

OMEGALULZ

[downandlonely]

It sounds like this man may be trying to take advantage of you. I would stay away.

[Katieissweet]

He said did we want to go have lunch together whilst I was just talking to him on the ward.He always comes to talk to me even though he works in high dependency in another unit.He made a sexual remark to me so I don’t think he’s just friendly but maybe.I thought even just going to lunch with him would be a big no no.

Originally Posted by divine1966

Romantic encounters between nurses and patients are strictly prohibited. Did he ask to go have lunch with in a romantic setting? Or just suggested it’s time to eat lunch? What exactly did he say?

Originally Posted by Katieissweet

He said did we want to go have lunch together whilst I was just talking to him on the ward.He always comes to talk to me even though he works in high dependency in another unit.He made a sexual remark to me so I don’t think he’s just friendly but maybe.I thought even just going to lunch with him would be a big no no.

Ok yeah after hearing this, my advice would be to steer clear of him. I also think he is trying to take advantage of you and it would even be in your best interest to report him.

[sarahsweets]

Her should know the rules and he does- he is just choosing to violate them. You are a vunerable patient and he has no right to muck up the waters by asking you out. Its almost like he would be abusing his "position of authority" by even asking.

[divine1966]

Katie this isn’t the first time that you share having romantic entaglements wuth psych nurses (it’s been going on for few years now). Them being in love wuth you of hitting on you and you are being in love with them etc Maybe it could happen once but what’s the chances that you encounter unethical psych nurse every time you stay in psych ward?

I don’t want to offend you but it’s not uncommon for some patients to develop attachments (often very intense) towards their care givers in a psych hospital. I don’t want to minimize your experience if he is truly is unethical (he needs to be reported then) I am just trying to employ logic saying that how can it be happening that often with different people?

[MickeyCheeky]

Yeah, I think you should stay away from him as much as you can, Katieissweet. I'm so sorry you have to put up with him. Stay safe and take care of yourself. I also agree with divine1966 to look into this if it happens often with other nurses. There's nothing to be ashamed of, it's just something that you may want to work on if it depends on you as well. Of course that's just my opinion. The final decision is up to you. I may be wrong. Feel free to PM me anytime. Sending many hugs to you

[Katieissweet]

I have stayed in lots of hospitals maybe eight,and never have relations with the nurses,but this one hospital I fell for maybe four male nurses there,it’s like my soul group is there or something truly.They only cared for me for a brief period like a few weeks or some not at all,so it’s not that.Theres just some old tie or energy.Why would I never fall for any nurses at all the other hospitals.Anyway yes I was very in love,still am with another nurse there and that has been going on for four years.I dreamt my past life with him.

[divine1966]

Originally Posted by Katieissweet

I have stayed in lots of hospitals maybe eight,and never have relations with the nurses,but this one hospital I fell for maybe four male nurses there,it’s like my soul group is there or something truly.They only cared for me for a brief period like a few weeks or some not at all,so it’s not that.Theres just some old tie or energy.Why would I never fall for any nurses at all the other hospitals.Anyway yes I was very in love,still am with another nurse there and that has been going on for four years.I dreamt my past life with him.

I understand. Just be mindful about saying that they are hitting on you. Unless you have real evidence of that. I think it’s wise to speak to your psychiatrist about your feelings for nurses

[Katieissweet]

I don’t see a psychiatrist and they don’t know anything about relationships all they are trained in is science based logic,not wisdom.

Hello KatieisSweet. I think it is important that you raised this issue. Thank you for sharing. I am a healthcare professional and I can tell you that this is very inappropriate on the part of your psych nurse. He knows the rules and boundaries when caring for patients. Any romantic or sexual advances or comments are taboo and illegal. He knows that because anyone working in healthcare is required to go through training on safe boundaries and to repeat the training every year in order to continue working in the field. The fact that he is not operating under the rules suggests to me that he is unprofessional and could also be engaging in predatory behaviors. I would never even ask one of my patients to have lunch with me, even in a friendly way, it's just not appropriate. In healthcare, we can be friendly, but we should not be acting as friends (or dates) because we are in a responsible role to care for others...the professional lines should never be crossed.

I understand that you would appreciate kind interactions from someone but I don't think he's being kind. He's violating the rules and making advances toward a patient in his care. That is never okay. I kindly caution you not to interact with the nurse again. He should actually be reported to his supervisor. He may be preying on other patients. He works in a setting with vulnerable adults. You can report him anonymously if you don't feel comfortable speaking directly to his supervisor. You also have a right to request that he is not one of your nurses on any given shift and he should no longer be entering your room for any reason. Please take good care of yourself and be safe

[AceRimmer]

Psych nurses are not supposed to socialize with patients outside of work.

[divine1966]

Originally Posted by Katieissweet

I don’t see a psychiatrist and they don’t know anything about relationships all they are trained in is science based logic,not wisdom.

Katie, how is it possible that you never see a psychiatrist? Like never ever? When you are in a psych ward, you never get to see a doctor? How about when you out of a hospital?

[AspiringAuthor]

I am with Divine, Katie - I question whether you are seeing reality vs what you want to be reality.

Psych nurses get a lot of training and make a lot of money. They also enjoy flexibility that not all professions enjoy - within certain boundaries they can set their own hours (shifts). I once had a male psych nurse, a French guy, and also with long hair, who only worked nights. Who knows what he did during the days? Maybe he taught kids at schools to play musical instruments, drawing meager salaries as a public school teacher and supplementing that income with occasional psych nurse hours at night.

Because they make a lot of money, they have a lot at stake - it is not a profession to take lightly and to risk losing after so many years of education. Of course, people can and do make choices against their self-interest - embezzlers, other white collar criminals, etc. do - but this happens rarely and then media blows this up and makes it a common appearance in the public eyes, counterfactually (=counter-statistically). Most psych nurses would not risk their jobs.

You are operating on a very immature, adolescent if I may say so, dichotomy of spirituality and wisdom on one side and science and logic on the other side. Because of the dichotomy and the black-and-white thinking, your mind plays this trick on you in that it creates a "bad camp" and a "good camp" in your mind whereby the physician staff are in the bad camp and you and the romantic guy you spent your past life together with are in the good camp. Have you ever given any thought to the fact that the romantic nurse fulfills the orders of the physician staff and reports his observations to other nurses and probably physician staff too?

It is very hard to believe that being on the psych unit you do not see a psychiatrist daily, even if for a brief period of time. Granted, most of my experience on psych units has been in a teaching hospital, but a couple of times I was in a community or county hospital and although briefly, but I did see a psychiatrist daily.

I did not read your earlier posts but Divine did and saw a pattern in them - with the benefit of what Divine read in the past, I would lean towards exorcising the romantic nurse and attributing the belief that he had asked you out and had made sexual remarks to your imagination and wistful thinking.

I suggest that when you get out of hospital, you read good ole psychoanalytic literature on transference to learn why patients develop romantic feelings towards their psychiatric care providers.

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I have looked up the title of your shaman and via Google Books came to this Amazon title: Aliens and Alienists: Ethnic Minorities and Psychiatry: 9780044453161: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com

It has no description or reviews or "look inside the book", though, but I do see that the ethnic minority is African. You wrote that you are European and also 1/4 African - you mean to say that you are 3/4 European and 1/4 African and are trying to get in touch with your African tribal roots? If you are 3/4 European, you grew up without shamanism, so your visions and auditory hallucinations are not part of early childhood indoctrination (for lack of a more neutral word, but what I mean to convey is neutral) - for you personally sacred music coming out of cars is a symptom of psychosis.

You then make the argument that what you see or hear is not bad - there is a school of thought that holds that antipsychotic treatment is not necessary for schizophrenics who do not hear bad voices that tell them to harm themselves or others, and there might very well be truth to it. You might very well be more creative and interesting to be with because of the visions and hallucinations. At the same time, apparently you find yourself in a psych hospital time and again and possibly have some difficulties telling fantasy from reality, so maybe you really should make an earnest attempt to get the best out of modern psychiatry has to offer. While you are still stuck with the belief that psychiatry is logic and science, it is a clinical profession based on observation, intuition, and A WHOLE LOT of trial and error - armed with a lot of patience and in collaboration with a good psychiatrist you might find a way for yourself to get a grip on reality, to stay out of psych units, while preserving your curious, inquisitive, and aesthetically inclined nature.

[bluekoi]

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