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Old Dec 06, 2016, 04:13 PM
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Thanks for the update, Shy! Good luck at the new job! We're rooting for you - working with MI is a challenge and you have courage!

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Thanks Moogs! Yes, working with an MI is a real challenge. I do have guts. Unfortunately I might get fired after two weeks if I don't go from newbie status o Speedy Gonzalez status at the deli. WTF? Ugh! No wonder why so many people there have quit left and right and call in sick often. I made a few mistakes and was late one day and I got hell for it. One girl got injured there and denied help. She's nice and she confirmed what I suspected, that they expect to much and they're cliquey. And not nice at all. One woman called this woman a psycho in front of me and told me to not talk to her.

They didn't fire her despite her being written up three times as that's how baldy they need people there and this lady told me don't worry, she's just threatening you. Nothing was in writing, you didn't sign anything, so you're fine. I got one ally at work now, yay! Everyone there who I met so far has been nice. But the deli people mostly ignore me now as I'm sure they are sick of helping me when I've been there less than a week.

Wish me luck everyone!

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Old Dec 06, 2016, 04:19 PM
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They choose the shy or loners because it's an easier prey. Humans are programmed to always take the path of least resistance when attempting something so it just makes sense. As for why they chose me, it was different for each person who chose me. I've had bad luck and I'm a person that some people really like and some people really don't. This was true when I was shy and didn't stand up for myself and true now that I do. I don't feel so powerless anymore....it's better having a voice but it does lead to a great deal of fear and paranoia. And not everyone can stand up for themselves and shouldn't be required to do so in a professional environment constantly. (((Hugs)))

I would just tell that girl "it really hurt my feeling when you called me fat. I like to think you are a good person who doesn't walk around trying to hurt people's feelings so I thought you should know"

Good luck no matter what you decide. I'm just very sorry any of that happened to you and I hope you find your answers on why they do it to you. (((Hugs)))

People are bullied for a variety of reasons unfortunately and working with a therapists and getting objective input from impartial people can help. Good luck.
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Sorry to hear that you kept on being a bully target at work. It's great that you don't take any crap from anyone anymore. Shame on those bullies! If anyone ever calls me fat around me again, or insinuates that I am, I'll look them dead in the eye and tell them hey, I heard that, and that is rude and inappropriate.

I did nothing to you, so why did you say that to me? I'll then tell them to never talk to me like again and they don't have to like me, but I do expect them to respect me. I'll then be sure to tell them that I will tell H.R or management what they said and ask them for an apology. The next person who messes with me will be so sorry they ever did.

Yesterday this one lady in the deli was like, omg, like she was getting frustrrated with me. I told her to please not talk to me like that again and that's rude and inappropriate. She didn't say sorry or anything at all, but she shut up and I didn't see her for the rest of the day, lol! I told my manager about this and she said that she'd talk to her. My inner beast has been unleashed, lol!
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Old Dec 06, 2016, 04:22 PM
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Congrats on the new job! I think you did the right thing by telling management about the harassment. Hopefully those girls will not get away with it again or will be talked to and hopefully understand how unprofessional their behavior is.

You need to do what feels right to you but I wouldn't confront the girls. It's doubtful they will see the error of there ways if you challenge them. Saying something like "you really hurt my feelings when you did (insert actions here)
Then if they double down on dumb it's best to walk away and just consider them a lost cause or a problem for someone else. The best revenge is not letting them break you AND continuing on which is what you are doing. Be proud of yourself. (((Hugs)))
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Thanks Elsa! I want to destroy them and crush their reps. I'll feel better then, lol! Yesterday I saw a vendor at the deli and I told her what happened and she was in shock. She just told me to grow thicker skin. WTF? I guess no one's ever called her fat or bullied her, but whatever. I hope word gets around. I called out each nasty girl there. I'm sure this will get back to everyone at work. Aaahhh,,,,, revenge feels great at times, lol! Maybe this will prevent them from being mean to other people in the future.
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Old Dec 06, 2016, 04:23 PM
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I haven't read all the replies, but the best way to not get bullied is to stand for yourself. It sounds simple, yet I think it's true. It doesn't mean to be aggressive, it means to take your place assertively. Ignore the side talks about you, and get busy with your job and with the people who are serious about their jobs.
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I agree with what you said. Trying to do just that. I did speak up and told one woman to not talk to me a certain way yesterday and she stfu then and I didn't see her for the rest of the day, LOL! I'll try my best to ignore those stupid apes at work from now on, lol!
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Old Dec 06, 2016, 04:28 PM
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The problem is you can't be a shy introvert at work PERIOD. Why the heck would you rely on others to handle bullies for you!? Whether at work, social life, or home life, there will always be bullies and that is the fact of life. YOU have to deal with that, not be friends with the managers so you can use them as a human shield when your feelings are hurt. Running to the authority figures for petty grievances is childish and immature. Run to the authorities figures if your rights have been violated or you have been sexually harassed or assaulted. If you want to act tough, act as if you're wearing a bulletproof vest and no harm will come to you.

I would suggest preparing comebacks when you feel bullied. If someone makes a stupid face at you, blow it off because that is a waste of your time and effort to be angry about it. People have bad days, and it's out of your control. And guess what, some people are just mean and if you went back to your old job after the fact and told them they were rude they'd laugh their ***es off right in front of you and then you'd be all upset all over again that they are still rude and you would have yet again wasted effort to get one more laugh out of them. Yes, people are rude, but YOU have control over how you react to it. YOU MUST IGNORE IT OR DEAL WITH IT, but running to the managers will only make you look bad that you cannot deal with private affairs yourself.
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I'm sorry, but I can't change my personality any more than I can change my DNA. I would if I could. All I can do is put on an act and act like they're not getting to me. I'll speak up next time like I should've.

What would you have done if you were me and that girl called you fat to the other person in the room? Would you have ignored her or made some comment back about how that was rude and to never do that again? I will speak up immediately when someone does cross the line next time like I did yesterday.

Bullies like to prey on those people who are shy and those who don't really have friends at work. They are sick in the head. I hate them. I wish that I could kick their *** and get away with it. That's how much I hate them.
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Old Dec 06, 2016, 04:30 PM
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I'm sorry, but I can't change my personality any more than I can change my DNA. I would if I could. All I can do is put on an act and act like they're not getting to me. I'll speak up next time like I should've.

What would you have done if you were me and that girl called you fat to the other person in the room? Would you have ignored her or made some comment back about how that was rude and to never do that again? I will speak up immediately when someone does cross the line next time like I did yesterday.

Bullies like to prey on those people who are shy and those who don't really have friends at work. They are sick in the head. I hate them. I wish that I could kick their *** and get away with it. That's how much I hate them. And oh, I disagree about complaining about them to management. That's what they're there for, to protect the employees.

If they get complaints from other people too, then maybe they'll take action and fire them. Bullies should not ever get away with harassment. Maybe the fear of getting fired might get them to stop acting mean.
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Old Dec 06, 2016, 04:35 PM
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I've been bullied my whole life. And you wanna know why? Because I was so shy, quiet, and kept to myself that people thought I was aloof, lazy, awkward, uncomfortable to be around, unfriendly and RUDE that I didn't want to participate with anyone else. I remember in elementary school my classmates were playing games and one girl came up to me and asked me very rudely "What's wrong with you?" I said defensively, "I'm not doing anything!" and she said "Exactly!" Lesson learned, she wanted to include me but because I was so shy she thought I didn't want to be playing games. In middle school I was passionate about being the school secretary but I was so shy that when it came to the public speaking day I stood in front of the entire school with a paper to my face and talking very quietly and very monotonous and a school bully came up to me afterwards and said "If you weren't the only one running I wouldn't vote for you." In high school, I was told by my crush (who was seriously abusive) "You are a socially-awkward creep with friends of equal or lesser value".

I spent most of my life alone, friendless, and crying every single day, and it wasn't until my diagnosis when I said enough was enough, and focused on self-improvement. And what I've learned is that I am no longer the shy, socially awkward loner that I was up until six years ago. And the point I am trying to make is that maybe you are the rude one as perceived by others. Most people are not accepting of those who need a "safe space" and most don't understand why introverts are the way the are, because as human beings we crave social interaction. I know when there are days when I am not up to "function" on a particular day, when I'm frowning and irritable and socially withdrawn, I am perceived as rude, especially when people make the effort to be friendly and outgoing to me. For humans to be created so socially needy, it's natural for people to see someone who is socially withdrawn as rude and someone to avoid. People want to be with others who are upbeat and outgoing, not aloof and withdrawn. It is very much so considered rude and unfriendly.

I do highly recommend that you set a goal to be more socially outgoing at work.

I am creating a self-help book called "The Secret Behind the Smile: A Housekeeper's Guide to Succeed in Any Career" about what I have learned in my jobs. I do have some pointers I am collecting to place in my book, and I have some that can help you.

I will start simple to help you "fake" your way into social fabulousness. In my pursuit of personal growth, I have found that this the most important lesson to learn to succeed in any career. This is so basic you might be surprised that it even needs discussion, but it will make you appear friendly and outgoing when inside you wish you could be somewhere else. Focus on this step for your first month at your new career and let me know how it works. This is...how to say hello!

1. Make eye-contact, smile, and greet everyone you meet. In the work setting, a more professional approach is to use the time of day, such as "Good morning, good afternoon, good evening". I have always gotten a giggle out of my managers by addressing them using their last name. "Good afternoon, Mrs. Smith!" No matter where or who they manage, they've earned their title and if you get to know and learn from them, they can become a life-long mentor and will be more eager to write you a letter of recommendation for future job pursuits. Secondly, it is far more important to greet your coworkers, all of them, which can seem daunting at first when there are so many working different shifts, because you will see more of them than you will your managers. By greeting each one of them, you will learn their names by heart faster than if you were to be partnered up together, and it opens a window of communication and the idea that you are friendly and approachable because you address them by name, which is a sign of respect and a kind gesture that you can remember their name. "Good morning, Stacey!" When you are new to a job, you are at the very bottom working up, below the lowest paid employee and those who do the job you'd rather not do, so by saying hello you recognize that they are just as important as recognizing the manager and it offers a sign of respect.
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Sorry to hear what happened to you. I'm glad to hear that you were able to change. I'm a lot better than I used to be, but I do feel like by acting like this, I'm somehow being fake and maybe people will pick up on that.

I HAVE been saying hi to people and asking them what they do there and that I'm in the deli department and I talked to one girl in the deli the other day and gave her some relationship advice. She asked me about myself and I opened up. I listened to her talk about this guy she started dating.

I say hi and bye to everyone. To the ones who for whatever reason are ignoring me now, I will ignore them back as I'm not there to kiss *** or be everyone's friend. I'm doing better now. And I found one new work ally now who's cool. I stood up to this one woman who made a rude comment to me. It felt damn good to do so! Thanks for the tips and I'll check out that book soon.
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Old Dec 06, 2016, 04:42 PM
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Banding together ? Okay maybe to have someone(s) is great to vent to .

But the world isn't going to always be kind to shy or socially awkward people or anyone MI or not. Managers aren't always going to deal with unnecessary drama, they also have work to be done.

LL gave wonderful advice , things she has learned for herself and is applying daily in her life.

Even if a person has to fake it when employed then so be it .

Faking it often turns into making it.

Bullying is wrong, of course it's wrong . But it happens in every job on the planet.

Shy,,,, I hope this new job is a much better fit for you, be friendly and enjoy the paycheck !!!
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Yep, the world is a cruel place for us shy loner introverted people at times. I'm a lot better than I used to be. I talk to the customers and they've all been nice and paitient with me so far. Some are a little picky at worst.

Like I stated above, I'm making a real effort to talk to people and I DID speak up yesterday when this one woman was rude to me. I'm so glad that I did it to as she seems like a bully even though she's been nice to me so far. She called this one lady there she doesn't like a psycho and told me to not talk to her.

I did talk to her last night and she offered me lots of great advice and told me a lot of troubling things about that place. She told me that they're cliquey and on power trips and that if nothing is signed, that I have nothing to worry about. Long story short, I got one strike against me and was threatened by my manager yesterday for a few mistakes.

She said that she'll give me two weeks to get up to speed. I have barely been there a week and now I'm expected to be as fast as them? WTF? I'm looking for a new job today and and on my day off. That lady said that she was just threatening me and that since they're so short staffed, I won't get fired. She's gotten written up 3 times and they didn't fire her, so I guess things are that bad there, LOL!

Read my thread on the work thread if you'd like to know more about this.
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Old Dec 06, 2016, 04:48 PM
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I agree with some of what others have said. Often the way to deal with this kind of bullying is just rise above it and do your job. It's a work place, it's not high school it's not a.social event. You're there to do a job. If you're not fitting in and the managers are always having to deal with you and your bullies, they aren't going to have a positive image of you. You will be viewed as a high maintenance employee.
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I see what you're saying, but if things do get to be really bad, then they need to do what they can to protect you and to discipline the bullies. Harassment is NOT OK! I try to ignore the smaller slights, but if anyone dares say anything like call me fat, they will be sorry they ever said that. I'll call them out as nicely as I can to their face. I'll then complain to the manager that it's affecting my ability to do my job as it's causing me stress.

It's part of THEIR job to ACT on bad behavior when it reaches a certain point and not turn the other cheek and act like the employee who is doing the complaining is a whiner or high maintenance. Would you just ignore a bully if things got out of hand? I don't know you, but if this ever happens to you, I bet you'd feel differently about things. It's so much easier to brush off bad behavior when it's not happening to you.
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Old Dec 06, 2016, 04:51 PM
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Tbh in the workplace I flat out let a lot go - I work with a hotchpotch bunch of people, none of whom I would choose to socialise with. Nothing wrong with them just not my kind of people, I'm probably not theirs either. I am pleasant with them, but it's workplace pleasant not friend pleasant.

I just smile and get on with my work and do the best I can that day. It works for me.

Like Christina says good luck in your new job and enjoy the paycheck!
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What doe hotchpotch mean? BTW, I have tried hard to be nice to people, and most people there are nice, but I sense that the manager doesn't like me anymore. Maybe she was expecting me to kiss her ***? lol! I don't do that! Hell no! If you'd like to know what I'm talking about, then check out the work thread and read what I wrote. I'm stressed as hell now as she threatened to fire me if I don't become a deli pro who stops asking the same questions again and again in two weeks, ugh! FML!!! I need to start to look for a less demanding job asap! This job is physically demanding and they're expecting way to much from me to soon!
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Old Dec 06, 2016, 04:56 PM
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If people could just get over it, don't you think they would have thought about that on their own? Are targets of bullying stupid and suddenly hear that and go "thanks, you're right".

Why shouldn't the bullies be expected to stop? Just because someone isn't sensitive and can just get over it doesn't mean they are more worth while than the people being targeted. This is azz backwards.

And getting paid isn't about enjoying your paycheck. It's grueling work to support yourself and eat. You shouldn't be expected to put up with bullying on top of that.
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I agree with everything you said Elsa. Clearly some people on this thread have probably never been bullied at work or maybe even never at all. Some people do lack empathy and it's frustrating when people act like you're being overly sensitive for getting upset over things a bully says and does.

Let me put it this way, if a dog bit you, would you be like whatever, it's just a small bite. I'll just put a band aid on it. No, I'm sure that the victim would be mad and would probably want to run away from the dog or kick it. And I work my butt off. I come home with sore painful feet, knees, and back pain everyday now after work. This adds insult to injury.
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Old Dec 06, 2016, 04:59 PM
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Well, bullies definitely come in all shapes and sizes. Often bullies, if you take the time to learn about them, are individuals that have been "taught" to be that way.
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