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Old Jun 11, 2017, 01:19 AM
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Here is the whole story; a childhood flame is now a good friend; she lives in Switzerland and I am California. She has gotten herself into some "trouble of the heart" over there (fell in love with a younger married man). Her son is mentally ill, so life has not been kind to her.
As the consequence she had a nervous breakdown and she was talking about jumping of some bridge with the rope around her neck, over some ugly love triangle where things have turned ugly, she is in a small town, and the wife and soon everybody would know, what she had done).
I have replied "That is crazy, that's not painless. That is not how you deal with this!"
So, after an hour talking on Skype on Wednesday, I have managed to calm her down (or so I have thought) and gave her the address of a therapist, but now she is not answering her phone, Skype, email etc. She lives alone and I fear that my talk has maybe gotten misunderstood or at BEST, she is just irresponsible towards me by not returning my call. I dot not know what to do. I am also getting a little pissed of if she is fine.."I told her to go with the flow, aging is part of life (accept it naturally. Gave her the metaphor of a river going into the ocean. (She is a life long rower) I said "rowing upriver" is always hard", down river is easy. You will get there eventually, why hurry. We all get there (to the ocean) and I have asked her;" and you know what the ocean is?" She said "yes, death" and after that she seemed very calm almost happy. Now I am "crapping myself in the pants", so to speak that I maybe I have just talked someone into killing herself"
I was talking about surrendering to old age. I did not think she was serious.
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Old Jun 11, 2017, 03:01 AM
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I can see your understandable concerns.

Maybe she's in a medical facility where staff are looking after her and she isn't allowed access to a phone. Let's hope this is the case!
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Old Jun 11, 2017, 05:39 AM
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I'm sorry you are having a tough time. You did not talk her into suicide. The SI was already there. Like the previous poster said, maybe she is IP somewhere receiving treatment. If she is at home and simply not responding that's a whole other kettle of fish. It would be cruel to let you suffer and wonder. I hope you touch base with her soon. Keep us posted. Thinking of you.
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Old Jun 11, 2017, 09:20 PM
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UPDATE. She is around (I have received an email that is a link of some weird penis news), somewhere, wigging out, but my fears were unfounded....thanks...

P.S.
NEVER AGAIN....
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Old Jun 13, 2017, 01:12 AM
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UPDATE1.1 The way I have attempted to contact her was through friends of a friends on face book. While she is on FB, she uses it very seldom. Her friends thou use FB all the time so I have tried to get her SMS(mobile #) and guess what?

NOBODY would respond from the group I have tried to contact! Sorry for the rant but am I crazy or she is flipping me off? After an hour very friendly warm talk on Skype.


So now;
1) I have dropped her from Skype
2) Unfriended her on FB

Was I too harsh? Overreacting?
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Old Jun 13, 2017, 03:13 AM
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I'm not sure I understand.. why did you drop her from Skype and Facebook? Because she didn't reply to you? Because if that's the case, then yeah, it wasn't a really good idea :/

I understand dealing with a suicidal friend can be hard, but all you can really do is support her when she needs it. That's all you can do, really, especially since you're in two different states. The rest is up to her.. you did a good thing by giving her a therapist's address.
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Old Jun 13, 2017, 03:41 AM
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She is not responding to my email or Skype. She has my phone number, I am out of this business of meddling in people's affairs, she has a lot of close friends there and we are an Ocean apart. She can reach me if she wants but it seemed that she does not want me to know her mobile. Well, in that case, I am off the hook. You can say that I am upset or scorned but I am not a hotline anymore. She is alive and I am not risking this crap again, (to feel like I put her over the edge) In Europe they have hotlines.
She is not really suicidal as she never tried anything prior. She is moving to France after trying to break up a marriage (I would have never imagined her capable of doing something like that BTW). My feelings are hurt, that she would deny her mobile number. What kind of a friend is that?

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I'm not sure I understand.. why did you drop her from Skype and Facebook? Because she didn't reply to you? Because if that's the case, then yeah, it wasn't a really good idea :/

I understand dealing with a suicidal friend can be hard, but all you can really do is support her when she needs it. That's all you can do, really, especially since you're in two different states. The rest is up to her.. you did a good thing by giving her a therapist's address.
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She is not responding to my email or Skype. She has my phone number, I am out of this business of meddling in people's affairs, she has a lot of close friends there and we are an Ocean apart. She can reach me if she wants but it seemed that she does not want me to know her mobile. Well, in that case, I am off the hook. You can say that I am upset or scorned but I am not a hotline anymore. She is alive and I am not risking this crap again, (to feel like I put her over the edge) In Europe they have hotlines.
She is not really suicidal as she never tried anything prior. She is moving to France after trying to break up a marriage (I would have never imagined her capable of doing something like that BTW). My feelings are hurt, that she would deny her mobile number. What kind of a friend is that?
I believe you made the right decision. At the very least your friend is inconsiderate and I thought that stunt she pulled when you were worried about her committing suicide was cruel. It also says something that she won't give you her mobile number. That's not being a good friend. Best wishes.
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Old Jun 14, 2017, 02:53 AM
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She is back, alive (she is not suicidal, albeit very depressed now). This stunt was to get attention and sorrow. I have emailed her back and explained my side and reiterated the need to contact someone to get help, unfortunately she possesses the "scientology gene" and refuses medication but open to talk.

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I believe you made the right decision. At the very least your friend is inconsiderate and I thought that stunt she pulled when you were worried about her committing suicide was cruel. It also says something that she won't give you her mobile number. That's not being a good friend. Best wishes.
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Old Jun 14, 2017, 02:58 AM
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A side story. Did you hear about the girl in the US who goaded her "boyfriend" to kill himself and eventually he did, now she is facing a inv. manslaughter charge (same as hit and run). Michelle Carter WILL be charged after encouraging boyfriend to commit suicide in text messages | Daily Mail Online
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