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Old Sep 14, 2018, 06:45 PM
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I really see no need to continue talking to total strangers online if these conversations bring so much frustration. You don’t know them and they don’t know you. It should be fairly easy to stop conversing with them.
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Old Sep 14, 2018, 07:27 PM
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Yeah I have self worth issues, no doubt about it.

I'm not interested in meeting anyone online anyway, as I keep telling them, it is very superficial. This guy I am talking about appears to have views on certain things very different to mine so we're not compatible; he has just seen a photo and decided I am worth chasing. Am no oil painting but have deleted the photos of myself since then just in case. Maybe if you post a photo of yourself men think you are after someone? I don't know. I am not posing half naked or anything. Maybe just having the right genitals is enough for some guys online.
I hear you. On a superficial level even a photo of a new haircut or random selfie can seem like some type of signal of approachability.

Do you get anything out of accepting these requests for being on your page? I'm even conscious of those I know or have known through the years. I don't have time for the bs petty pleasantries. A 'friendship' even with an ounce of curiosity better run deep and have some depth and conversational meritocracy.

Nothing horrible, per se, in accepting their requests, if they aren't what you are looking for, they aren't what you are looking for. And if whatever platform you are using isn't working, then change how you do it. If these guys are seeming like hurt puppies in need of compassion or pity then it's a matter of asking why that is.
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Old Sep 15, 2018, 10:56 AM
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It's Facebook. I don't get anything out of accepting these requests. I feel bad when I don't respond to them though, like it's a bit rude. Is it normal just to ignore requests? I seem to think it will annoy people if I don't respond.

Yeah the conversation is not very deep with most of them. It tends to revolve around sex as soon as you speak to them.

Maybe Kim Jong Un is a good idea for a profile picture, I don't have any pictures of myself now and my current picture is of a dog. The friend requests have calmed down now and I won't accept any more from guys. So hopefully won't have any more to deal with.
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Old Sep 15, 2018, 11:02 AM
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Why would it be rude to not respond to requests from strangers? You don’t know these people. Most certainly it’s normal to ignore requests from those you don’t know. Maybe I am just not grasping the issue.
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Old Sep 15, 2018, 12:00 PM
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I get friend requests all the time from men. They are nearly all these good looking men in military uniforms. I am suspicious if they are truly who their photo is. Yeah, hundreds of strapping officers are seeking me out. I’m thinking they are secretly con men looking to rob me or terrorists gaining something by accessing my account. Maybe they’re really Russian spies looking to churn fake news. Who knows? I just ignore them.
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Old Sep 15, 2018, 01:25 PM
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If they are looking to chat and you aren't, take your sweet time in responding then short and sweet. If the trend is in sexualizing you in uninvited ways then block them. Eventually they'll take the hint and leave you alone. As they say, don't feed the trolls.
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Old Sep 15, 2018, 04:28 PM
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It's Facebook. I don't get anything out of accepting these requests. I feel bad when I don't respond to them though, like it's a bit rude. Is it normal just to ignore requests? I seem to think it will annoy people if I don't respond.

Yeah the conversation is not very deep with most of them. It tends to revolve around sex as soon as you speak to them.

Maybe Kim Jong Un is a good idea for a profile picture, I don't have any pictures of myself now and my current picture is of a dog. The friend requests have calmed down now and I won't accept any more from guys. So hopefully won't have any more to deal with.
Yes, it's perfectly normal to ignore requests to chat from strange men. Where did you get the notion that you have to reply or accept their friend requests?

Men hit on women all the time, through any medium -- including online and including Facebook. Why bother accepting a request from someone who could be a total creep? I am glad it's calmed down for you, but you shouldn't have to change your photos just to avoid men who want to chat and hit on you. Just change your privacy settings and make your profile non-public and unsearchable. Voila. Problem solved.
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Old Sep 15, 2018, 08:35 PM
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Sage advice from people who use and understand that medium I would say .
FB ... such a great idea that doesn't work in practise so often , or at least that's how it sounds .
I have a 21 yr old niece in London . She emails and calls me . Apparently I'm the cool uncle ( no kids , disposable income so good for Xmas and birthdays and to drag me around the high street when I go there ) . She was hell bent on getting me onto FB . I quizzed her about it . "It's great for keeping in contact with people you don't see all the time" ....o.k. , how many friends do you have on it ? " oh , about 500 " .... and how many of these people have you ever met ? " umm , about 60 I think " ...... yeah , nar I think we will just stick to the phone and email thanks .
I did have an account for a while once to be honest , but it just wasn't for me so I got rid of it .I'm sure it works very well in certain situations . It just seemed incredibly false ! Even though I only had 9 friends on it . Which is totally false ....I'd never be able to convince as many as 9 people to like me 😀
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Old Sep 16, 2018, 02:06 AM
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Sage advice from people who use and understand that medium I would say .
FB ... such a great idea that doesn't work in practise so often , or at least that's how it sounds .
I have a 21 yr old niece in London . She emails and calls me . Apparently I'm the cool uncle ( no kids , disposable income so good for Xmas and birthdays and to drag me around the high street when I go there ) . She was hell bent on getting me onto FB . I quizzed her about it . "It's great for keeping in contact with people you don't see all the time" ....o.k. , how many friends do you have on it ? " oh , about 500 " .... and how many of these people have you ever met ? " umm , about 60 I think " ...... yeah , nar I think we will just stick to the phone and email thanks .
I did have an account for a while once to be honest , but it just wasn't for me so I got rid of it .I'm sure it works very well in certain situations . It just seemed incredibly false ! Even though I only had 9 friends on it . Which is totally false ....I'd never be able to convince as many as 9 people to like me 😀
Good points. I actually am not and have never been on Facebook or other social media and that’s maybe why I just don’t understand what the issue is. In real life one wouldn’t be obligated to befriend every person they encounter, not sure why it is expected on Facebook.
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Old Sep 16, 2018, 08:30 PM
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I call it harassment here but I like chatting to people. It's guys who won't take no for an answer I don't like being rude to. Part of me I feel doesn't want to be a ***** or feel like one. Today I had another guy friend me (he was a mutual friend of someone else and I didn't think he would be looking for a relationship/sex) and I ended up saying not to get his hopes up, even though I don't want anything other than friendship at best (I don't even know him, is a fb friend). He has mh problems so that made it harder to be firm, but maybe I have just made things worse by not being honest and saying no way.

This has happened a few times recently and it makes me feel very uncomfortable, but I hate thinking I have upset anyone.

How do other people handle this? I like chatting to people and I tell guys I just want to be friends, but they don't listen.

Maybe it is karma because I have a friend who I annoyed by going on about liking him for long enough, but I would never have forced myself on him, I feel if I met up with any of these guys as friends I would be putting myself in a vulnerable position and it would be a mistake. But this guy has already mentioned meeting up and although I said ok as friends I think that might not be a good idea. As usual, I don't want to be nasty so I don't just say no way.

How can I tactfully refuse these guys and is there any way you can just be friends with them and they will get the message and accept it do you think, or am I just asking for trouble staying friends and even meeting up with them?

Feel free to tell me off for being an idiot, because I think I maybe do more harm than good by chatting to these guys.
Just be honest and explain what you are looking for. Give them some opportunities to process that and then if get too much for you! Bock them!
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Old Sep 16, 2018, 08:32 PM
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If they are looking to chat and you aren't, take your sweet time in responding then short and sweet. If the trend is in sexualizing you in uninvited ways then block them. Eventually they'll take the hint and leave you alone. As they say, don't feed the trolls.
I completely agree with what you had to say.
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Old Sep 16, 2018, 08:35 PM
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I prefer the blunt method. Just telling them directly that I'm not interested. If they react negatively I delete and block. You have the right to protect your personal boundaries and you should feel no guilt for doing so.
I completely agree with you! Great advice!
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Old Sep 16, 2018, 08:37 PM
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Unfortunately, in my experience if what they're after is a relationship or sex they will not settle for friendship and meeting up with them is definitely a bad idea. You have to be firm in your boundaries. If they push or get mad, they are not worth keeping as a friend anyways, so it's no real loss of they leave or you have to block them.
I completely agree with you!
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Old Sep 18, 2018, 04:32 AM
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Yes, it's perfectly normal to ignore requests to chat from strange men. Where did you get the notion that you have to reply or accept their friend requests?

Men hit on women all the time, through any medium -- including online and including Facebook. Why bother accepting a request from someone who could be a total creep? I am glad it's calmed down for you, but you shouldn't have to change your photos just to avoid men who want to chat and hit on you. Just change your privacy settings and make your profile non-public and unsearchable. Voila. Problem solved.

Well I have changed the settings to Friends of friends for friend requests but I don't seem to be able to turn it off completely. Also posted that I am in a relationship, which is a lie, but hopefully will help 'friends of friends' to stay away if they are after sex.

I just feel like I am being impolite not to respond to friend requests, I don't know why I think like that tbh I hate offending people too much probably. Too non confrontational in life in general.. people take advantage of it all the time.

The guy did make a creepy remark to me today, he didn't intend it that way but it made a bit uncomfortable. Once again was my fault, but was only being honest, I said I hadn't got back to him because I was having a shower and breakfast. Of course he had to sexualise the shower bit, and I should have realised that he would do that. So you can see how I get myself into these situations.

Hopefully now I have posted I am in a relationship this will be put to bed for good. Unfortunately I have to lie about it though, but if it stops men trying it on then it is better in the long run for everyone. Will stick to the dog as my profile picture though.
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Old Sep 18, 2018, 04:34 AM
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Sage advice from people who use and understand that medium I would say .
FB ... such a great idea that doesn't work in practise so often , or at least that's how it sounds .
I have a 21 yr old niece in London . She emails and calls me . Apparently I'm the cool uncle ( no kids , disposable income so good for Xmas and birthdays and to drag me around the high street when I go there ) . She was hell bent on getting me onto FB . I quizzed her about it . "It's great for keeping in contact with people you don't see all the time" ....o.k. , how many friends do you have on it ? " oh , about 500 " .... and how many of these people have you ever met ? " umm , about 60 I think " ...... yeah , nar I think we will just stick to the phone and email thanks .
I did have an account for a while once to be honest , but it just wasn't for me so I got rid of it .I'm sure it works very well in certain situations . It just seemed incredibly false ! Even though I only had 9 friends on it . Which is totally false ....I'd never be able to convince as many as 9 people to like me 😀


Yeah I have under 30 friends. Someone unfriended me because of my mh issues I should think, which is fine, as I wouldn't want someone bigoted as a friend in real life so wouldn't want one online either. I have only met one of my online friends lol, so they are not 'friends' friends anyway. The number of friends doesn't mean anything tbh.. social media is very shallow.
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Well I have changed the settings to Friends of friends for friend requests but I don't seem to be able to turn it off completely. Also posted that I am in a relationship, which is a lie, but hopefully will help 'friends of friends' to stay away if they are after sex.

I just feel like I am being impolite not to respond to friend requests, I don't know why I think like that tbh I hate offending people too much probably. Too non confrontational in life in general.. people take advantage of it all the time.

The guy did make a creepy remark to me today, he didn't intend it that way but it made a bit uncomfortable. Once again was my fault, but was only being honest, I said I hadn't got back to him because I was having a shower and breakfast. Of course he had to sexualise the shower bit, and I should have realised that he would do that. So you can see how I get myself into these situations.

Hopefully now I have posted I am in a relationship this will be put to bed for good. Unfortunately I have to lie about it though, but if it stops men trying it on then it is better in the long run for everyone. Will stick to the dog as my profile picture though.
You seem to have trouble with boundaries and setting limits. I would block the dude, and set my status back to single. Don't worry about their feelings. Worry about yourself, most importantly, and your own comfort level. That's what matters the most. Then just don't accept friend requests from people you don't know. I only accept requests from true friends, or friends of my fiance and his family.
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Old Sep 18, 2018, 06:50 PM
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Your belief that you can never say NO to a stranger is potentially very unsafe and dangerous.
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Old Sep 19, 2018, 11:10 AM
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I think I might have gone too far already by having a chat with that guy today. Maybe I should have blocked him. He says he is on his own and doesn't have anyone much to talk to, and he has mh issues so it would be cruel just to ignore him now. I just don't know how to defuse the situation that I have got myself in with tact.
Just explain what you want from him help him get more social experience like where to meet people. Suggest he get help with his mental health.
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Old Sep 19, 2018, 11:11 AM
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Yeah I have under 30 friends. Someone unfriended me because of my mh issues I should think, which is fine, as I wouldn't want someone bigoted as a friend in real life so wouldn't want one online either. I have only met one of my online friends lol, so they are not 'friends' friends anyway. The number of friends doesn't mean anything tbh.. social media is very shallow.
That is great advice! I wish that I had thought about that myself when I was much younger.
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Old Sep 19, 2018, 11:17 AM
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I agree that, if they're interested in a relationship, friendship with them would be complicated. So I'd say just be honest from the start. Whether they accept it or no is up to them. I think the same thing goes even if they have MH problems.. you can be nicer but it's substantially the same thing.
I completely agree with you! Just be honest!
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Old Sep 19, 2018, 11:18 AM
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It might sound unreasonable to you but it would certainly prevent any grief. Just don't friend anyone you don't know in real life.
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Tell them you're not after anything more than friendship and if they keep pushing, ignore and block
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don't accept random friendships from people you dont' have an active desire to be friends with on fb. then if you do. just be straight forward. if they persist, unfriend and block them.

You talk about not wanting to hurt feelings and that's understandable but if they persist and ignore your statements (assuming you first do this) that you want to just be friends, how are they thinking of your feelings? *shrug* Idk, that's grounds for me to cut them off and not even worry about their feelings. reciprocity is a thing. can't worry about the feelings of others that dont' care how you feel at all.
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Old Sep 19, 2018, 11:21 AM
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It sounds like you're having trouble asserting your boundaries. Sad thing is, there's no award for being the most nice and accommodating girl. Sometimes you have to tell people, "No." And there's nothing 'b****y' about it.

You're a person, and you deserve respect and consideration, just like everyone else. If you don't want to talk to someone, don't talk to them. Unfollow and unfriend people who aren't really your friends. You have every right to do that. You deserve to be able to spend your time with people you care about, who care about and respect you in return.

I'd recommend looking up Captain Awkward. She has a lot to say about trying to be 'the nice girl', since she struggled with her boundaries in the same way. It helped me feel a lot better about starting to assert my own boundaries. I hope it helps you, too.
I completely agree with you! That is great advice!
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